TPU's F@H Team

[80-watt Hamster]

<DBZ> It's over 9,000,000! </DBZ>

 

[Jacky_BEL]

<DBZ> It's over 9,000,000! </DBZ>

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Team Hack-A-Day are gonna have to wait a bit longer before they overtake us

 

[80-watt Hamster]

Team Hack-A-Day are gonna have to wait a bit longer before they overtake us

Sadly, it's only 9,000,000 total rather than 9,000,000 in a day. BUT: doing what I can to help TPU claw its way back into 47th!

 

[XZero450]

I'm hoping to do an upgrade here over the weekend to get a few more PPD, and looking to have another system running at the end of next month.

 

[Jacky_BEL]

I am still looking out for GPU upgrades myself, but second hand prices for GTX 1080 Ti 's are getting crazy.

 

[80-watt Hamster]

I am still looking out for GPU upgrades myself, but second hand prices for GTX 1080 Ti 's are getting crazy.

Getting? Secondhand prices for ANY graphics card are already crazy, and have been for awhile. A local listing had two RX 480s for USD125 each and a GTX 960 for a Benjamin, and I caught myself thinking, "Dang, that's a pretty good deal." One should be able to buy those cards at those prices all day and all night at this point in their lives. :-/

 

[cine.chris]

US tariffs, mfg margins, work-from-home, home-schooling, & a crypto-revival are all eating into availability and driving costs up, on all PC components. AMD had to raise prices on their last gen hdwr because their NEW 5000 Ryzens made the 3000s even more attractive... DOH!

 

[80-watt Hamster]

US tariffs, mfg margins, work-from-home, home-schooling, & a crypto-revival are all eating into availability and driving costs up, on all PC components. AMD had to raise prices on their last gen hdwr because their NEW 5000 Ryzens made the 3000s even more attractive... DOH!

I'm aware of the factors, but nonetheless felt the need to lament/complain about where the market is vs. where it "should" be (IMO). So I'll just be over here biding my time until one or more of these particular bubbles bursts.

 

[XZero450]

I'm back to full capacity. Had a couple snafu's this week.

1) Had a radiator develop a leak over a video card, as of yet not sure if I want to repair of recycle it.
2) Learned that one of my circuits is not wired to code.. It's wire + receptacles rated for 15amp on a 20amp break. Thankfully no fire, just a very melted outlet that took out the entire circuit.

 

[phill]

I'm back to full capacity. Had a couple snafu's this week.

1) Had a radiator develop a leak over a video card, as of yet not sure if I want to repair of recycle it.
2) Learned that one of my circuits is not wired to code.. It's wire + receptacles rated for 15amp on a 20amp break. Thankfully no fire, just a very melted outlet that took out the entire circuit.

Well, you don't do things by halves do you?!

 

[Jacky_BEL]

I got a cheap Dell Inspiron 570 desktop a while ago because it had a case with a little more room to fit graphics cards.
I did a CPU an PSU upgrade and fresh windows 10 install. I wanted to do a windows 7 install but I couldn't get it to activate.
And today I finally got another Strix 1080 Ti to put in there. Now, fitting the card in the case was a bit of a challenge dimension-wise.
But fastening the rear IO in this Dell case is pure torture. So not recommended. Anyway, the system is now up and running.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

So it's that point of the year again, touching my pc rig, radiator's cold, pumps GPU and CPU at 60°C err ewwww.
Man down, man down.
Tech on site might be a while though.

 

[Jacky_BEL]

I don't have any experience with watercooling.
I guess this is the reason why, more complex then aircooling and parts that can fail.
You really need yearly maintenance?

 

[NastyHabits]

I don't have any experience with watercooling.
I guess this is the reason why, more complex then aircooling and parts that can fail.
You really need yearly maintenance?

@Jacky_BEL I used to water cool my PC's. But then I ruined a motherboard from a leak, and the switch to smart meters and tiered pricing made me go back to air-cooling. Less cost, less worry, less maintenance.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

@Jacky_BEL I used to water cool my PC's. But then I ruined a motherboard from a leak, and the switch to smart meters and tiered pricing made me go back to air-cooling. Less cost, less worry, less maintenance.

I don't mind really, I would rebuild it every now and then anyway with a decent cleanup to boot ,all the strip down and cleaning is done, no blockage found so I'll be pump testing soon, not likely to be back together in a day though so your not wrong but there are reasons to watercool too, lulz for one, sound and OC runs ,,I'm sure there's more as I definitely prefer the look, I'm biased though .

 

[XZero450]

@Jacky_BEL I used to water cool my PC's. But then I ruined a motherboard from a leak, and the switch to smart meters and tiered pricing made me go back to air-cooling. Less cost, less worry, less maintenance.

I've ruined 1 motherboard and 2 gpus water cooling as a result of failures and still would do it over air. I also run few fans in an effort to be as close to silent as possible while folding/crunching at 100%

It's a personal preference and all about the objective you're trying to achieve.

 

[Jacky_BEL]

I've ruined 1 motherboard and 2 gpus water cooling as a result of failures and still would do it over air. I also run few fans in an effort to be as close to silent as possible while folding/crunching at 100%

It's a personal preference and all about the objective you're trying to achieve.

Yes, noise would be a decisive factor.
I have read an article about fan noise where it states the relation between fan speed an noise is:

noise = speed^5

This means that if you would halve the fan speed, then you get a noise reduction of -15 dB?
Do we have an acoustics engineer in our team who can confirm that statement?
Because -15 dB is alot of less noise.

(I wanted to post a new topic, but this one just get added to the previous unrelated post)

There seems to be some problems with f@h stats.
The points update on EOC shows all zero's.

They have had this problem before:

Before I get any more emails, yes I am aware of all the 0 updates. The issue is purely on the Folding@Home server side. You guys are overloading their servers and the flat-file generation gets paused, but they are working hard to increase capacity and cope with the onslaught. Check the video below to understand more about just how MUCH of an increase we are talking about!

This statement dated 04.03.20, 7:47pm CDT retrieved from the EOC Folding@Home Stats - News & Updates webpage.

While Google-ing I found this link for the daily team summary in txt format.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Yes, noise would be a decisive factor.
I have read an article about fan noise where it states the relation between fan speed an noise is:

noise = speed^5

This means that if you would halve the fan speed, then you get a noise reduction of -15 dB?
Do we have an acoustics engineer in our team who can confirm that statement?
Because -15 dB is alot of less noise.

(I wanted to post a new topic, but this one just get added to the previous unrelated post)

There seems to be some problems with f@h stats.
The points update on EOC shows all zero's.

They have had this problem before:

This statement dated 04.03.20, 7:47pm CDT retrieved from the EOC Folding@Home Stats - News & Updates webpage.

While Google-ing I found this link for the daily team summary in txt format.

What I can say re watercooling is that I have ran air on a q6600(ocd can't remember though but high) and an fx8350(@4.8) plus a couple of air cooled GPU and the noise got to me.
Watercooling isn't quite if fully loaded but it is a lot less noisy 24/7.

Starting to look like a pump header (fan out) has failed on my motherboard, not great but I can wire around that issue, no variable pump speed, rebuild day ,yay.

 

[Jacky_BEL]

The header in the daily team summary in txt format, now shows an updated time (Wed Feb 03 23:46:01 GMT 2021),
so I guess the f@h server-problems are solved and the stats on the EOC website will soon be updated again.

Yes, EOC stats update confirmed.
@XZero450 +70 million points,

 

[cine.chris]

I found this interesting... comment I made on the FAH forums

Joe_H wrote:Hopefully fixed soon, and should have points from some of the servers which have not been reporting stats properly to the database over the last few weeks.

This is interesting... I recall that I was very suspicious one day that reported #'s weren't correct.
It was right after adding 3070#1 and I was closely monitoring the client & HFM estimated PPD, something that retired people can do.
I considered extracting the logged data in HFM for comparison, but didn't.
cine.chris Posts: 54Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:29 pm

So, if you suspected your FAH #'s were weaker than expected, you might be right.
Over a half-dozen recent posts about missing wu credits & points.
Apparently, some people track and scrutinize such things rigorously.
Very disappointing that it was apparently a known problem and allowed to continue.

 

[80-watt Hamster]

My first F@H casualty is brewing after a mere two months: One or both of the fans on my R9 270 is starting to rattle. Originally picked it up used on eBay a couple years back with a slightly bent heatsink, but it's been running like a champ up 'til now. Not sure what I want to do with it once they're too far gone. :-/

 

[biffzinker]

My first F@H casualty is brewing after a mere two months: One or both of the fans on my R9 270 is starting to rattle. Originally picked it up used on eBay a couple years back with a slightly bent heatsink, but it's been running like a champ up 'til now. Not sure what I want to do with it once they're too far gone. :-/

Zip tie new fan/fans on the card?

 

[80-watt Hamster]

Zip tie new fan/fans on the card?

Maybe; a couple of 80s might do the trick.

For as many graphics coolers as bite the dust, you'd think the aftermarket for them would suck less.

 

[Jacky_BEL]

I will be upgrading two GTX 1080 FE cards to GTX 1080 Ti FE's.
I guess I was lucky to get them at a somewhat reasonable price, the guy was in a bit of a hurry to sell them.
Now I have to find more space and two additional boxes for the GTX 1080's.

I also punched in the numbers for my electricity meter, had to do it twice because the electricity company telephone voice said the number was way more than in the past.
At least my gas heating bill will be lower.

Edit:
OK, one card upgrade done, and at the same time upgraded the machine to W10 pro, which went surprisingly well.
Second machine also upgraded now. I decided to run them with the sidepanels off, because I can now see the hotspot temperatures in the new version of GPU-Z.
Hotspot temperatures were running in the 90's Celsius, too much for my liking.

 

[Jacky_BEL]

I finally got to configuring the advanced FAHcontrol client , so I can now follow up on the status of the folding machines from one "console".
Next thing is to say goodbye to the VGA KVM switch and invest in a newer HDMI or DVI KVM switch to get rid of adapter cables.