So this is me saying I know more than Cyberpower support but this is wrong. Not seeing a pure sinewave is going to be harder on the input section of a PSU with APFC but again it only has to run the PSU long enough to perform safe shutdown. So a matter of minuets across how many times a year your system actually has to use the battery backup?...., completely irreverent I'm sure. Someone with more EE knowledge can probably explain in better or completely refute what I'm saying....
This is probably something they have to say legally to protect themselves cause yeah technically its not ideal and long term can probably cause harm if you are constantly using the battery but again thats not something that ever really happens in the real world. Its a trade off... a UPS is never going to provide as good as power as your mains so do you want to reduce the lifespan of your PSU by 0.25 seconds each time it uses the UPS so you can perform a safe shutdown or nah? To give you a bit of context I have a 500 something watt Seasonic M12 thats been running 24/7 since they day I've owned it for probably 8 years now and its always been attached to a UPS (digital, non-pure sinewave).
Interesting, this is the type of information I was looking for earlier regarding how the sinewaves work with the ups and just
how much of a risk it might be to use the battery with surge protection. I got some information regarding this but this is
also really helpful, thank you! So you are saying that simulated sinewave is probably only a concern on battery when the
ups has to let the psu properly shutdown or using the battery constantly for a longer period of time? However a
simulated sinewave ups is going to make the psu's APEC work harder over time? Do you mean a trade off of more solid power
but no battery vs battery with AVR but a slightly less lifespan that noone will ever notice on the psu? That sounds quite impressive
with your simulated sw ups with your trusty Seasonic! It does help give me better assurance if I were to ever plug my new Seasonic
psu into my ups later, thank you! However, every pc setup is going to provide different results. What model of your Seasonic M12
exactly are you using? The II version, a bronze rated one for 550 watts?
Thank you for that helpful detailed response! The more perspectives I can get and good tips help me more to feel confident
and rest assured. My evga psu dying on me the way it did was a rather dramatic experience. Yes, it could have been way worse
but I don't know where I'd be if it wasn't for everyone's help here! I hear what you are saying and I now have a little better
understanding of how most psu's work with such a power system like a ups.
I get the legal protection response, but if like you said, the setup is not "ideal" and it could potentially be harmful to
the psu, wouldn't a compatibility issue be represented as a main concern? I mean you say that this kind of thing
is never something to worry about in the real world but I just rather not take any risks. Anyway, I have already
re-arranged my two computers and put my gaming pc close to my new power strip and my old Dell pc close to the
ups to stay plugged into battery. I'm going to be backing up a lot of files so I definitely need the ups for my Dell! So
it will all work out fine as long as my Seasonic psu plays nice by itself. I fit my old monitor, modem and router into the
battery side and now I only have one battery outlet left. Despite what everyone is saying to me now, I'm just going to
try out my new psu with my gaming pc with my power strip for now. What's the worst that could go wrong? Certainly no
worse than another faulty psu going out on its own, right? Or do I seriously need to be knocked upside the head because
I'm going about this all wrong?
This brings me back to what I was after when I first posted here for help. I wanted to know if a ups is really worth it
or not for protection of a new gaming pc? Aside from the given risks, would a psu that already has a built in suit of power
protection really benefit so much more from a ups than regular power strip enough to waive the risks? It sounds like the answer is
no. But I welcome any type of perspectives on this, all very much appreciated! It would make more sense given the info
provided that a psu is going to be more likely to have a issue with the ups sinewave than the ups being able to stop
the psu from harming itself or other hardware it is connected to. This table of one scenario verses another is really
what it is all about to me. That is what the psu itself is supposed to do, correct? Protect itself and its other connected
components on its own? I'm not really interested in just being able to stay powered on through battery on a ups while
I game, I only wanted better insurance on my gaming hardware and for my psu by using a ups with it. Did I have the right
idea from the beginning to include a ups into the picture and only got scared away because of a failed psu and not knowing
for sure why it went out; or do I have the right idea now to not include the ups with a new gaming build? (given I only wanted
better hardware insurance) This is what I'm still trying to figure out while listening to all opinions given to me and
I'm leaning more on the latter now. I appreciate the help and guidance so much!
I'm going to be hooking up my Seasonic psu very soon but first I'll be testing the motherboard cable with a power tester.
Meanwhile, My dead evga psu is off in transit, I checked the tracking number on it today. I didn't get the insurance with
it as recommended by evga because, well it's an extra 100 bucks!
Well OP, you started this thread with the very strange preconceived notion that a $20 surgeprotector was somehow superior to a high quality $150 UPS. Despite all of the information that was provided to you, you have somehow maintained and further convinced yourself of that incorrect notion and in the process wasted ALOT of peoples time. Whats aggravating is you know it. Your not stupid or ignorant. Therefor i wonder if you haven't been trolling us all along?
To those that have followed this thread and are trying to learn something. Please do yourself a HUGE favor and ignore the OPs seriously flawed logic. There doesn't exist a powerstrip that outperforms a quality UPS whether it be pure sine wave or simulated. Cherry picking information wont change that. Personally im checking out, my time is far to valuable to waste- adding the OP to my ignore list.
Whoa! I never said that I thought a power strip was better protection than a ups. But for my purpose it will do. Plus my power strip cost 30.
