Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

[Ruru]

you can leave all the parts on to use the flasher

Okay, good to know if I need to do it in the future.

 

[8BitZ80]

I'm so DONE with Ryzen overclocking.

Backed off all my memory overclocks and curve optimizer undervolts. Pretty much back to running default settings lol

 

[Alyjen]

lucky you, I'd not be able to go stock with memory, I'd have to sell it and get some boring 3600CL16 kit..

 

[dont whant to set it"']

@PooPipeBoy Cheer up ! here are some of my all-core oc results.
Its as far as the ~ £25 cooler on it can manage.

 

[jjnissanpatfan]

Starting to learn the steps to overclock...but do not know if the effort is worth the reward. At stock speeds this machine does what it supposed to. Is hours or time worth the 10-15% increase? Also no matter what speed or timings the L3 cache seems off?

 

[ViperXTR]

so CTR 2.0 is out, get tweakin boys

 

[tabascosauz]

I'm so DONE with Ryzen overclocking.

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Backed off all my memory overclocks and curve optimizer undervolts. Pretty much back to running default settings lol

WHEA ID 18...cache hierarchy error or bus/interconnect? As long as your mem is stable and it's not bus/interconnect WHEAs you probably can keep that profile, maybe the curve optimizer still needs some tweaking.

I feel the frustration, though.

so CTR 2.0 is out, get tweakin boys

dammit



Why does Renoir even need a Vermeer AGESA?? Off to download the beta BIOS I guess

 

[ViperXTR]

Yus, MSI just out the non beta 1.2.0.0, i wonder if i should get this if my beta 1.2.0.0 is stable

 

[tabascosauz]

I already had my suspicions about the reliability of CTR's recommendations but this is just too good. 4.075GHz @ 1.35V is its recommendation? HAHAHA oh it's definitely a bronze sample, but I can already do at least 4.2GHz stable at that Vcore



thanks for the laughs 1usmus - if it doesn't properly support Renoir, maybe you should leave it that way

 

[ViperXTR]

I guess im not one of those with CCD2 active?

 

[8BitZ80]

WHEA ID 18...cache hierarchy error or bus/interconnect? As long as your mem is stable and it's not bus/interconnect WHEAs you probably can keep that profile, maybe the curve optimizer still needs some tweaking.

I feel the frustration, though.

Damn, I didn't check. Not sure on that, I cleared the event log to see if there's any new WHEAs. To be fair, I did have the curve optimizer set at full whack with a negative 25 on all cores. I thought it was stable because there were no issues or WHEA log entries for a number of days, then it just crashed out of nowhere. I think I'm currently running negative 10 on all cores and it seems to be fine.

 

[tabascosauz]

Damn, I didn't check. Not sure on that, I cleared the event log to see if there's any new WHEAs. To be fair, I did have the curve optimizer set at full whack with a negative 25 on all cores. I thought it was stable because there were no issues or WHEA log entries for a number of days, then it just crashed out of nowhere. I think I'm currently running negative 10 on all cores and it seems to be fine.

What stress tests did you use to verify the CPU overclock? I'm not particularly fond of CPU overclocking on AMD because OCCT isn't nearly as tough as I'd like, LinX refuses to run on my 4650G, leaving me with just P95 and IBT (sadly).

On the memory side of things CPU-related (UMC or IF, not the RAM itself) instability can manifest suddenly and without warning. I've gone for months on end at 3733 with any indication that the IF can't handle it (or at most just one or two correctable ID 19 events) only for it to crash suddenly, refuse to POST, or force me to reflash my BIOS.

 

[ViperXTR]

New chipset drivers

 

[Mussels]

 

[dont whant to set it"']

So I've change the cpu cooler to a custom liquid agent cooling loop. At first , it may seem that that the former cooler may still have a punch in it for attaining higher all-core clocks due to changing the VDDR Cpu curent capability to 110% in the bios yelded stability, therefore I will investigate later how much further it will be able to tame it , come its time to be mounted back.

Anyhow, after coming across this newfound ''arguing over the internet'' Intel lying about their CPUs' TDP: who's not surprised? | Page 10 | TechPowerUp Forums I simply went ahead a couple of days back and ''diverted funds'' form my ''beer fund'' to get a clamp meter.

Measurements done on both the bundles of wires , +VDC and com. The lowest figure of the two was measured on the Negative(ground /common) witch means there is current from other ground connections to the motherboard from the powersupply, thus implying the GND plane of the ATX 12v and EPS 12v are connected with be it the ATX or trough the PCIe 8 pin power or both(just did a quick check , the difference of current is flowing trough the Graphics card , 1.45A ).

1.45A(PCIe)+8.29A(ATX&EPS)=9.74A (trough the GND)
~300mA(PCIe) + 9.48A(ATX&EPS)=9.78A (trough the Positive) [~ because of polling rate is fast and I picked the higher discernable value]

Clock me silly, its the total power draw not just the CPU but the CPU VRM as well.

 

[R00kie]

Just checked my 5600x in CTR, and it looks to be unique

Check yours, guys.

As far as I've read, these are just cut down 5900X/5950X (depending on what CPU you have) with one CCD disabled, and in no way sharing cores between CCD's

 

[trickson]

Amazing Asus TUF pair up with this Ryzen 7 3700X 4.4GHz fully stable all core Ram at full speed as well!

Going for 4.5Ghz tomorrow.
For now I am just absolutely AMAZED at the sheer speed of this system!

 

[biffzinker]

Check yours, guys.

As far as I've read, these are just cut down 5900X/5950X (depending on what CPU you have) with one CCD disabled, and in no way sharing cores between CCD's

One of the eight core dies on the package is disabled?

 

[tabascosauz]

One of the eight core dies on the package is disabled?

Some AMD 5600X and 5800X CPUs come with two CCDs - KitGuru

The creator of CTR and DRAM Calculator for Ryzen has found that some Ryzen 5 5600X and Ryzen 7 5800X

www.kitguru.net

So far it looks like it's just an interesting tidbit and nothing more, as there doesn't seem to be any indication that it's not fused, and doesn't help thermals either with them being chiplets. Also don't think the firmware and Windows scheduler are prepared to accept heterogeneous CCDs.

But one can hope, right?

 

[R00kie]

One of the eight core dies on the package is disabled?

it is indeed, in the case of a 5600X, it is a 5900X that has failed the QC stage, the failed CCD disabled and has been rebadged as a 5600X

 

[freeagent]

Why wait till tomorrow? We believe in you man

 

[trickson]

it is indeed, in the case of a 5600X, it is a 5900X that has failed the QC stage, the failed CCD disabled and has been rebadged as a 5600X

I tell you what they are still AMAZING Ryzen Chips are just so good fun fast and just exciting to play around with.
I almost got the 5800X But didn't want to wait to save the cash up so I got the 3700X still just AMAZING!

 

[biffzinker]

I tell you what they are still AMAZING Ryzen Chips are just so good fun fast and just exciting to play around with.
I almost got the 5800X But didn't want to wait to save the cash up so I got the 3700X still just AMAZING!

Might want to drop back on the voltage or the 3700X is going to end up in a degraded state fast. Even 1.28 Vcore has caused degradation in a few months for some. Most voltage you want to push is 1.25.

 

[R00kie]

I tell you what they are still AMAZING Ryzen Chips are just so good fun fast and just exciting to play around with.
I almost got the 5800X But didn't want to wait to save the cash up so I got the 3700X still just AMAZING!

The funny thing is that this build was supposed to be a secondary PC for VR, but since its on par or beating my 9900K in most of the games that I play, that it has been promoted to the main rig and fully watercooled

it is also a lot cooler to run, and its a lot more efficient than the 9900K
All I had to do is stick the PBO2 in manual, set the curve optimizer to -15, and its chugging along at 4.65GHz most of the times.

 

[8BitZ80]

Still getting the random WHEA. What a shame. Right now I'm on AGESA 1.2.0.0 and I reset the BIOS to only run XMP at 3600/1800 and nothing else.

At least that means it probably wasn't an overclocking instability issue. Not like WHEAs are a huge deal for everyday tasks, but it'd just be so nice to set up important online interviews without having to worry about random crashes. Lately I've been using my phone for Zoom correspondence lol