What's your latest tech purchase?

[tabascosauz]

Isn't DRAMless?

I mean, yes it is, but are you actually torturing your drive with massive unitary files on a frequent enough basis for the seq difference to be noticeable? Or, are most of your games extremely reliant on seq read to the point where there are drastic differences in load time?

If the answer is yes, then probably get the EVO Plus.

 

[ThrashZone]

You missed WD's fire sale about 6 months ago, they had the EK SN750 on their website for lower price than the regular one. Unless you can get that kind of sale price again, the EK heatsink really only improves temps by 4-5 degrees. It's a nice design though.



Not sure why you think it wouldn't suffice for game data. Can't notice any difference in game loading between the SN750 and SN550. "Blue" means nothing if you can get 5400rpm, 7200rpm, SATA3 and NVMe all under the same Blue banner.

SN750 is a warm running drive. Not really any cooler than the EVO Plus, other than being more viable for laptop use than the Samsung. For more $ than the Samsung, nahhh.

It made sense for me at the time because the Samsung drives are twice the price of other NVMes where I am.

Hi,
Read spec's differences pretty much is why blue 2400 black 3400.

 

[FireFox]

are most of your games extremely reliant on seq read to the point where there are drastic differences in load time?

Honestly i am not speed crazy when it is about games load time

 

[tabascosauz]

Hi,
Read spec's differences pretty much is why blue 2400 black 3400.

I move around a shit ton of large archives and single files every day and I can tell you with certainty that the SN750's "ratings" are full of shit. Worse than even my other SX8200. Things like Crystaldiskmark are getting so meaningless nowadays I think I've run it on an NVMe a grand total of once.

 

[biffzinker]

Honestly i am not speed crazy when it is about games load time

The WD blue SN550 might be all you need then.

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[FireFox]

the WD blue SN550 might be all you need then.

I assume that the WD blue SN550 is still faster than the WD black Hard drive 2.5

 

[ThrashZone]

I move around a shit ton of large archives and single files every day and I can tell you with certainty that the SN750's "ratings" are full of shit. Worse than even my other SX8200. Things like Crystaldiskmark are getting so meaningless nowadays I think I've run it on an NVMe a grand total of once.

Hi,
Okay I can relate to the adata 8200 pro bs spec's had my fun with three and returned all three to amazon lol
Pity the black went down hill
I always verify with hwinfo read/write speeds with what CDM says if they match it's probably true

I'd have to look up the blue write speed or if you can post it ?

I just posted an 970 evo plus over here it does have a good heatsink on it

Keep my 850 evo as boot drive or upgrade?

Hi all, in the recent times I started wondering to buy a nvme ssd to change my Samsung 850 evo m2, connected via a m2 to sata converter. The main reason is to have faster boot times and load stuff like davinci more quickly Is it the right time to upgrade or should I just stick with it? Also do...

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[cst1992]

I would say get the SN550; save some money unless its 4K random performance is shitty compared to the Evo Plus and SN750.
For games TBW doesn't mean much; it only really goes high when transferring gigabytes of files or watching 4K uncompressed movies with a high bitrate.

Trust me, even writing 360 TB is going to take a long time; I've had my 970 Evo Plus for around 6 months and there's barely 6TB written(a lot of which is benchmarks and pagefile reads/writes). At this rate I can use it for fifty more years!
Edit: fixed date

 

[Valantar]

I mean, yes it is, but are you actually torturing your drive with massive unitary files on a frequent enough basis for the seq difference to be noticeable? Or, are most of your games extremely reliant on seq read to the point where there are drastic differences in load time?

If the answer is yes, then probably get the EVO Plus.

I thought random r/w was the biggest difference between cached and DRAMless drives? Stemming from the lack of a DRAM-stored page table, meaning it has to fetch the address of every random read or write operation from flash? Sequential operations only require that done once, after all, so there shouldn't really be a difference there - though of course there are few DRAMless drives with 8-channel controllers and high-performance flash, so you don't tend to get those with high peak sequential numbers either.

Considering that game loading is mostly low queue depth reads with a steady mix of sequential and random data, I would expect there to be some difference between a DRAMless drive and a cached one, though likely not a noticeable difference outside of edge cases. I would still probably avoid DRAMless designs personally, but I've heard good things about the 550, so at the prices you've shown @Knoxx29 us it's likely what I'd go for. You likely wouldn't be able to tell the difference compared to the others.

I assume that the WD blue SN550 is still faster than the WD black Hard drive 2.5

Night and day. No doubt about that.

It's a lot hotter case the Air Lani case it was in I may go back I don't see the CPU passing 61c now it's passing it and heading to 65c is this safe for this CPU?

Is that under load? If so, those are definitely good temperatures I just hope your fans aren't running loud enough to bother you to hit those temps Of course a 3700X+1650 isn't a massive total heat load (likely less than 200W even if OC'd and running both under full load), so circulating that out should be doable even with quite restricted airflow.

 

[tabascosauz]

Hi,
Okay I can relate to the adata 8200 pro bs spec's had my fun with three and returned all three to amazon lol
Pity the black went down hill
I always verify with hwinfo read/write speeds with what CDM says if they match it's probably true

I'd have to look up the blue write speed or if you can post it ?

I just posted an 970 evo plus over here it does have a good heatsink on it

Keep my 850 evo as boot drive or upgrade?

Hi all, in the recent times I started wondering to buy a nvme ssd to change my Samsung 850 evo m2, connected via a m2 to sata converter. The main reason is to have faster boot times and load stuff like davinci more quickly Is it the right time to upgrade or should I just stick with it? Also do...

www.techpowerup.com

Blue advertised seq write is about 2000MB/s.

I should clarify, my statement was not about WD's marketing numbers being false. You can bench the SN750 in CDM and it'll come out pretty close to the advertised seq read/write. My point is that, in all this time, I've yet to make any file transfer of any variety or size to even come close to the rated 3000MB/s write. The exact same transfers can consistently attain the rated speeds on the SN550 and SX8200.

I remember reading about your SX8200 Pros and my SX8200 is the same (albeit without the regrettable controller bait-and-switch ADATA did on the Pros). 600MB/s short of the rated seq read, classic ADATA. But it still posts better random read than the WD drives lol

I thought random r/w was the biggest difference between cached and DRAMless drives? Stemming from the lack of a DRAM-stored page table, meaning it has to fetch the address of every random read or write operation from flash? Sequential operations only require that done once, after all, so there shouldn't really be a difference there - though of course there are few DRAMless drives with 8-channel controllers and high-performance flash, so you don't tend to get those with high peak sequential numbers either.

Considering that game loading is mostly low queue depth reads with a steady mix of sequential and random data, I would expect there to be some difference between a DRAMless drive and a cached one, though likely not a noticeable difference outside of edge cases. I would still probably avoid DRAMless designs personally, but I've heard good things about the 550, so at the prices you've shown @Knoxx29 us it's likely what I'd go for. You likely wouldn't be able to tell the difference compared to the others.

Yeah you're probably right. Haven't looked too much into what recent games do I/O wise.

SN550 as with most other recent DRAMless drives have HMB, so the DRAM part of the equation really isn't as big a deal anymore. Most of them have crappy controllers but afaik the SN550's is pretty decent? It's a cut down version of the SN750 controller, and the SN550 uses newer NAND.

In any case, if the SN550's low queue depth random is weak, then the SN750 is really no better for about 1.5x the price lmao

 

[ThrashZone]

Blue advertised seq write is about 2000MB/s.

I should clarify, my statement was not about WD's marketing numbers being false. You can bench the SN750 in CDM and it'll come out pretty close to the advertised seq read/write. My point is that, in all this time, I've yet to make any file transfer of any variety or size to even come close to the rated 3000MB/s write. The exact same transfers can consistently attain the rated speeds on the SN550 and SX8200.

I remember reading about your SX8200 Pros and my SX8200 is the same (albeit without the regrettable controller bait-and-switch ADATA did on the Pros). 600MB/s short of the rated seq read, classic ADATA. But it still posts better random read than the WD drives lol

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Yeah you're probably right. Haven't looked too much into what recent games do I/O wise.

SN550 as with most other recent DRAMless drives have HMB, so the DRAM part of the equation really isn't as big a deal anymore. Most of them have crappy controllers but afaik the SN550's is pretty decent? It's a cut down version of the SN750 controller, and the SN550 uses newer NAND.

In any case, if the SN550's low queue depth random is weak, then the SN750 is really no better for about 1.5x the price lmao

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Hi,
Well if anything the black already has a ek heatsink on it to sort of justify the higher cost.
Sammy none and needs one.

 

[FireFox]

Ordered the WD SN550 Blue 1TB + extra 2 years warranty, 99€

 

[biffzinker]

Ordered the WD SN550 Blue 1TB + extra 2 years warranty, 99€

Don't forget to show off your tech related purchase when it arrives.

 

[trickson]

I managed to get my hands on a Power Mac G5 it appears to be intact and well cared for.
Can hardly wait to dive into this thing and see what it can do.

 

[AltCapwn]

Oh god.
It's been a while since I haven't bought a gaming PC and it doesn't seem like it's the best time as of now.

Was supposed to buy myself a work laptop, but thought it was too boring and after some harsh time, why not buy a new PC. Been a while I haven't spent money into something I love more than I need.
So I searched, and searched, and searched...

I've been able to get my hand on a Dell G5 5000 i5-10400F with RTX 2600 for a super price. In fact I think the website where I bought it was glitched, but anyway. Should give me a good start to be back in the game.
With the PC came the monitor, found an Acer WQHD 34" 75Hz 1ms on sale and a new logitech Rome-G Keyboard.

I'm excited to get all this stuff and show you the setup. I'll still be sitting on a dining chair tho, but this will have to wait . Guess my back will need to endure a bit.

"Escape from Tarkov", here I come.

 

[cst1992]

WQHD is 3440x1440 - yes? That's a lot of pixels to be pushing.
Have fun with your new purchase!

Edit: it turns out I was wrong: it's 2560x1440, same as QHD.

 

[Toothless]

I can power that new 11900k or whatever it is now. Just need three more for everything else and we good.

i'm kidding

 

[cst1992]

Well actually, I knew you were kidding. How? You actually forgot to show the third power supply.
What's the capacity?

 

[trickson]

So does anyone know what I should do with a Power Mac G5?

 

[biffzinker]

So does anyone know what I should do with a Power Mac G5?

Hopefully it's not one of the water cooled models that would eventually leak from age. Run the last supported version of Mac OS X (the X is a roman numerial - 10.6.)

Which Power Mac G5 models use liquid cooling? Which Power Mac G5 models have been reported to have problems with the liquid cooling system?: EveryMac.com

Details regarding problems with the liquid cooling system in some Power Macintosh G5 models, how the Power Macintosh G5 liquid cooling system works, and more.

everymac.com

 

[ThrashZone]

I can power that new 11900k or whatever it is now. Just need three more for everything else and we good.

i'm kidding

Hi,
Three more and you can power Rhode Island

 

[Toothless]

Hi,
Three more and you can power Rhode Island

I work on boats that can do that too. I have an ex from there who could power the state with how spicy she was.

Gives me an idea.. who can harness the raw energy of angry?

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Think Van Helsing knows someone

 

[trickson]

Hopefully it's not one of the water cooled models that would eventually leak from age. Run the last supported version of Mac OS X (the X is a roman numerial - 10.6.)

Which Power Mac G5 models use liquid cooling? Which Power Mac G5 models have been reported to have problems with the liquid cooling system?: EveryMac.com

Details regarding problems with the liquid cooling system in some Power Macintosh G5 models, how the Power Macintosh G5 liquid cooling system works, and more.

everymac.com

No it is the air cooled one and man this thing must weigh 50 pounds!
I know it works perfectly.
I just do not know what I should do with it.
I have never operated one longer than 15 min. LOL. I have an Apple iPhone but this is NOT a phone LOL.
Is it sellable/tradable or should I give it away?

 

[thesmokingman]

Came across this interesting reservoir. Got a 250mm acrylic/pom (black back instead of acrylic) one from modmymods. In the process of building a second Phanteks 719. Will try this barrow res in it along with some other changes from my current 719 rig.

Here's the res installed. I ended up using different rgb strips, two instead of one. I wrote a lil more about the process in the build logs subforum.