The 10750H does not support this feature. Look in the FIVR window. It shows you the maximum multiplier based on how many cores are active. When 1 core is active, the 10750H might briefly be able to use the 50 multiplier but it is not possible to use the 50 multiplier when all 6 cores are active.lock this Frequency Core Multiplier to: 50
The 10750H does not support this feature. Look in the FIVR window. It shows you the maximum multiplier based on how many cores are active. When 1 core is active, the 10750H might briefly be able to use the 50 multiplier but it is impossible to use this when all 6 cores are active.
Your screenshot shows that your CPU is Power limit throttling at 65W. Your CPU will run at whatever speed is necessary so it does not exceed 65W.
A mobile H series CPU is not a K series desktop CPU. You will always be limited by Intel Turbo Boost, the turbo power limits and the CPU temperature. You have to balance all of these variables to achieve maximum performance. A mobile HK CPU might have been a better choice but they are still going to be severely limited in most laptops by the cooling system.
I would set all of the IccMax sliders to their maximum, 255.75. I have never heard of a mobile Intel CPU blowing up because of this setting.IccMax
I would set all of the IccMax sliders to their maximum, 255.75. I have never heard of a mobile Intel CPU blowing up because of this setting.
Watch Limit Reasons. At 65W or 75W, it is impossible for a 10750H to draw 200 amps. No need to worry about the IccMax setting. Set it sky high to avoid any throttling.
Many enthusiasts are happy with their MSI laptops. They are not as locked down compared to most of their competition. Do a Google search for the key combination used to access the hidden BIOS options.
Not sure if you need this info but someone might.(00)
Not sure if you need this info but someone might.
Here is a video that explains the key combination to get into the MSI advanced BIOS.
Go to the 00:30 second mark for more info.
Are you setting the core and cache offset voltages equally? You do not have to do this. Most users with the 8750H and 9750H got their best results by setting the cache offset to -125 mV or -130 mV. A little less cache offset allowed them to undervolt the core much further. Use Cinebench R20 to test this. Software that uses the AVX instructions will show the biggest improvement.I was able to achieve a stable undervolt of: 140.6 mV
Are you setting the core and cache offset voltages equally? You do not have to do this. Most users with the 8750H and 9750H got their best results by setting the cache offset to -125 mV or -130 mV. A little less cache offset allowed them to undervolt the core much further. Use Cinebench R20 to test this. Software that uses the AVX instructions will show the biggest improvement.
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Watch for better performance or better temps when using different voltages.
The 10750H supports Thermal Velocity Boost. This allows the CPU to run faster as long as it is under 70°C. If you clear the TVB option in the FIVR window, this might allow the CPU to continue using TVB boost even when it is over 70°C.
If you clear the TVB option in the FIVR window, this might allow the CPU to continue using TVB boost even when it is over 70°C.
A CPU core undervolt request of -1000 mV is mostly ignored. If your cache is at -130 mV then usually the maximum core is 100 mV more than that so -230 mV for the core. If you use -500 mV or -1000 mV, the majority of that is ignored and the CPU will use -230 mV instead.CPU Core: -1000.0 vM
Good to know. I like free MHz.[ Unchecked ] Thermal Velocity Boost (Definitely helped)
A CPU core undervolt request of -1000 mV is mostly ignored. If your cache is at -130 mV then usually the maximum core is 100 mV more than that so -230 mV for the core. If you use -500 mV or -1000 mV, the majority of that is ignored and the CPU will use -230 mV instead.
If the full -1000 mV was being used, your computer would instantly crash. It needs some voltage. You cannot undervolt all of the voltage away.
Good to know. I like free MHz.
It depends on the computer. The difference in performance can be over 300% on some computers. Some computers are unusable when BD PRCOCHOT is checked. Just because something does not work on your computer does not mean everyone should not use it.The increase in performance is negligible.
It depends on the computer. The difference in performance can be over 300% on some computers. Some computers are unusable when BD PRCOCHOT is checked. Just because something does not work on your computer does not mean everyone should not use it.
A CPU core undervolt request of -1000 mV is mostly ignored. If your cache is at -130 mV then usually the maximum core is 100 mV more than that so -230 mV for the core. If you use -500 mV or -1000 mV, the majority of that is ignored and the CPU will use -230 mV instead.
If the full -1000 mV was being used, your computer would instantly crash. It needs some voltage. You cannot undervolt all of the voltage away.
Good to know. I like free MHz.
BD PROCHOT and PROCHOT (processor hot) are two different things. If BD PROCHOT is not checked, your computer will still thermal throttle and slow down if the CPU gets too hot. Most people confuse these two things. Most people think that if you disable BD PROCHOT that the CPU might get too hot and it will burn up because it will not thermal throttle anymore. This is not true at all. This is not what BD PROCHOT does.For hardware safety reasons, I do not believe "BD PROCHOT" should be *UNCHECKED*
Sounds like your CPU is running great.CinebenchR23 8704 pts
Your laptop probably does not use BD PROCHOT. Do you ever see BD PROCHOT lighting up red in Limit Reasons? If your computer does not use BD PROCHOT then it will make zero difference whether this box is checked or not checked in ThrottleStop.
Sounds like your CPU is running great.
I have the same model and spec with the OP but i want to know if it okay if i set iccmax to maxium as you mention for daily use. And can this settings damage my motherboard or cpu?I would set all of the IccMax sliders to their maximum, 255.75. I have never heard of a mobile Intel CPU blowing up because of this setting.
No one in any forum can guarantee the safety of your hardware. If you think trying to run your CPU at its full rated speed is a bad idea, do not do it.can this settings damage my motherboard or cpu?
I always recommend setting this to the max, 255.75. Intel CPUs run just fine without multiple sets of throttling limits all overlapping each other.Set ICC to a value of 200
The turbo multipliers can be adjusted based on how many cores are active. That is a little different than being able to set the multiplier individually for specific cores.except for the first and the second core
ThrottleStop lets you decide how fast and how hot you want to run your CPU. I have a desktop computer so I prefer maximum performance. If you have a laptop burning its way through your lap, reducing performance a little to reduce heat is not such a bad idea.but temps go a way too high too fast
How do you actually set this? Maybe is what I was searching for.ThrottleStop lets you decide how fast and how hot you want to run your CPU. I have a desktop computer so I prefer maximum performance. If you have a laptop burning its way through your lap, reducing performance a little to reduce heat is not such a bad idea.
Yeah, that's normal. Some of the cores your seeing are actually just "Hyper-Threads". There CPUs being *emulated* on the Real Cores, like those *2 Real Cores* that are hotter than the others. But, there useful and actually work. The problems is they cause more *heat* to be generated in the *Real Cores* and use more power.EDIT
Quick question:
- I noticed a weird thing, there are 2 cores that keep overheating and are a lot above the others, like 8-10°C above the others, they keep temperature like 98° C and the others get to a maximum of 89-93° C is that normal? Those two keeps this temps constantly if the cpu is under stress. (I have made a little modification all the cores are set to a maximum speed of 4.0 GHz in the FIVR panel)
Yeah, my i7-10750H is:-With those settings and your TPL I get 7308 points as a score on 10 mins run of R23
-Tried even to lower a little bit the cache but this cpu seems to do not like any value below -80.1, even the -85, get me an instant freeze of the system and I have to shut down manually and restart it again, will see if I can get a little more extra from the core at last is pretty stable at -150 mV maybe I can take a little more extravolt out of it .
The Advanced MSI Bios is really nice. It's already setup for performance. But, if you decide to make your laptop quieter or save more power, there's *a lot* of stuff in there you could use.Quick Question 2:
-Do you think that is worth a try the tips of the Bios for best perfomance on this model or not?
Yeah, it's defiantly possible, that's one of the things I play with a lot. My current *Performance* [TPL] Power Settings are:-I was wondering if the value, your value, I put in in the TPL can have somehow slowed down a little bit the cpu, cause it seems to me that is a little more slow on processing,
Oh, that's caused by too much heat... The Bain of CPUs everywhere. My "Favorite UncleWebb" says it's called "Thermal Throttling". It's activated when your CPU hits it's "PROCHOT Offset" value. Mine is currently set to 95C right now. Which is fine for testing and short bursts. ThrottleStop can change this value too. It's under the [Options] button. I usually drop mine to 70C or 80C for a cool and quiet laptop. It's one of my favorite ThrottleStop features. And, it fixes a lot of problems easily.Have noticed that right now with this settings, even if I have set core speed to all the cores to a maximum of 4.0 GHz the cpu doesn't keep this up for a long time, almost only few seconds, and as soon it reaches 95°C it slowdown to value that get to 3.6-3.7 GHz and it stay there constantly at a temperature of 95° C, what I did wrong?