TPU's F@H Team

[80-watt Hamster]

I finally got to configuring the advanced FAHcontrol client , so I can now follow up on the status of the folding machines from one "console".
Next thing is to say goodbye to the VGA KVM switch and invest in a newer HDMI or DVI KVM switch to get rid of adapter cables.

Let me know if you find a good switch that doesn't cost a mint.

 

[Deleted member 202104]

I finally got to configuring the advanced FAHcontrol client , so I can now follow up on the status of the folding machines from one "console".
Next thing is to say goodbye to the VGA KVM switch and invest in a newer HDMI or DVI KVM switch to get rid of adapter cables.

Let me know if you find a good switch that doesn't cost a mint.

For my folding machines I would use remote desktop. The PCs were placed throughout the house with no keyboard, mouse, or monitor. Might save some money.

 

[newtekie1]

Let me know if you find a good switch that doesn't cost a mint.

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I use this one. It's only $50 right now with the 25% off promo code.

 

[80-watt Hamster]

For my folding machines I would use remote desktop. The PCs were placed throughout the house with no keyboard, mouse, or monitor. Might save some money.

I'm definitely looking into that, but the switch is for other purposes.

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I use this one. It's only $50 right now with the 25% off promo code.

Oof, reviews on that are pretty rough. Your experience has been decent, though?

 

[NastyHabits]

@Jacky_BEL, and @80-watt Hamster You should try Splashtop Personal if your computers are on the same network. It's free and no cables. I use it. https://www.splashtop.com

 

[80-watt Hamster]

@Jacky_BEL, and @80-watt Hamster You should try Splashtop Personal if your computers are on the same network. It's free and no cables. I use it. https://www.splashtop.com

Thanks for the tip; that's pretty slick. Not super-jazzed that you have to run through an account, but not needing to worry about IP addresses is a nice benefit relative to the remote software I've run in the past.

 

[cine.chris]

@Jacky_BEL you mentioned logging in another post...
Setting up HFM to do all the wu logging is easy if you have the client control working.
I've logged 14,800 wu since early Sept. Simple to export logs for spreadsheets.
Only issue with HFM is, it has to run minimized & logged on, if you X the window, it closes the program.

 

[newtekie1]

Oof, reviews on that are pretty rough. Your experience has been decent, though?

I haven't had any problems with it.

 

[cine.chris]

@Jacky_BEL is running in the Top50 today!

 

[Jacky_BEL]

Yes, but can I squeeze even more points if I couple strongest GPU's to stronger CPU's?
On my testbench I am currently running a 1080 and 1080 Ti side by side on a Phenom II 955. I think that comes with a penalty in PPD.
I was thinking about swapping the 1080 Ti with another plain 1080, but then i have to be sure the 1080 Ti will fit the other PC case.

And look out for @mstenholm, the next couple of days he is going to make Top200 rank !

 

[thebluebumblebee]

can I squeeze even more points if I couple strongest GPU's to stronger CPU's?

IIRC, high clock speed on the CPU matters.

 

[Jacky_BEL]

And my network layout isn't that great either. Some folding PC's are scattered around, connected via powerline network adapters.
When windows decides to update one of these machines, it starts hogging the available bandwidth (20 Mb/s), and I notice the traffic congestion.
This reminds me, i still have to upgrade some PC's windows 10 versions to Pro , just for these update issues.

 

[cine.chris]

I suspect there is a slight benefit for faster CPU.
Windows you should have at least 2 cores per GPU.
Running GPUs in the second x16 slot for desktop mobos will often be a problem too.
Even for my Ryzen5 3600 X570, the Gigabyte mobo had the 2nd GPU at PCIe x4 & about a 15% performance drop on a 2060 super.
Even with the M2 drive pulled, it was still a 4x slot (despite what their specs stated).
Switching to Xeon systems I have excess x16 & x8 slot capacity, but no GPUs for them.
Of course, being practical, lingering in the Top100 group is a sufficient goal.
Replacing less efficient GPUs with 3000 series would be a good strategy for the power-hungry Summer months in the US Southeast, even with a 19 SEER heat-pump in the basement (data dungeon).

I have two 3070.
giga is a Ryzen 5 3600 3.8GHz x16 PCIe4 x16 slot that boosts to near 5GHz
x9dr3 is a dual Xeon 2.6GHz E5-2650v2 PCIe3 x16 that boosts to 3.4GHz.
I can't say that one is better than the other... the Ryzen system seems to be a bit higher more often.
But taking a peek.... the xeon was higher.
I've not been motivated to upgrade to the faster 3.5GHz E5-2637v2, which would only be ~US$120 ebay.

 

[80-watt Hamster]

Yes, but can I squeeze even more points if I couple strongest GPU's to stronger CPU's?
On my testbench I am currently running a 1080 and 1080 Ti side by side on a Phenom II 955. I think that comes with a penalty in PPD.
I was thinking about swapping the 1080 Ti with another plain 1080, but then i have to be sure the 1080 Ti will fit the other PC case.

And look out for @mstenholm, the next couple of days he is going to make Top200 rank !

IIRC, high clock speed on the CPU matters.

My anecdotal observation: 2X GT 1030 produced more PPD with the host i7 930 idle than with all three folding.

 

[cine.chris]

My anecdotal observation: 2X GT 1030 produced more PPD with the host i7 930 idle than with all three folding.

I neglected to mention... I never fold on CPUs.
1) the ppd/watt yield is horrible.
2) it impacts overall production yield.
3) no names mentioned, but some CPUs will attempt to fry themselves while folding. Even with those fancy heatsink-coolers.
A GTX1050Ti will produce more points at half-the-watts power consumption when compared to most CPUs.
Costs less too, back when you could buy GPUs.

 

[Jacky_BEL]

I shuffled some cards around this week.
The Titan X now sits in a W10 PC again, and is misbehaving like it had before, not respecting the lowered temperature limit I had set in AfterBurner.
GPU-Z showed a hotspot temperature at nearly 100C . I 'd better put it back in a W7 PC again.

Anyway, with springtime in the northern hemispere and rising temperatures, I guess I will soon need to dial down the limits, or stop some PC's completely.

 

[cine.chris]

Dialing back. Seeing a lot of that.
Most noticeable was Nvidia SaturnV, the former #2, near and now at zero over the space of two weeks.
Most/all the LTT high-flyers are now in the same neighborhood with @Jacky_BEL and @XZero450.

Crypto-Coin teams are now 3of5 for Top Folders.
With LTT declining and Bonano surging, it's likely that LTT might be challenged for that #2 spot.
And TEC started in early Nov last yr!
Of course, fads can fade just as quickly...

The one unnerving thing about the crypto-types is their names, or lack thereof.
Most TEC points are from a single Anonymous donor, Banano is a hash of digits and CureCoin is a batch of digits with a cryptic name...
they just don't feel like they link back to real people. This might be why so many Folders are so negative toward the cryto-teams??

 

[Jacky_BEL]

Theta Edge Compute has got a large active community.
It traces back to Theta Networks , so a lot of real people with good hardware .

 

[Jacky_BEL]

I wanted to free up my testbench and put its GPU cards in seperate PC cases.
But it seems that the PSU's blow hot air into the PC cases, so i get high temps and lousy PPD.
Don't all PSU's normally exhaust hot air out of the back, where the switch and powercord are?

 

[80-watt Hamster]

I wanted to free up my testbench and put its GPU cards in seperate PC cases.
But it seems that the PSU's blow hot air into the PC cases, so i get high temps and lousy PPD.
Don't all PSU's normally exhaust hot air out of the back, where the switch and powercord are?

They should. Most modern case designs allow you to orient the PSU so it draws fresh air from outside (bottom or top, sometimes side), and exhausts out the back. I've never seen a case allows for exhaust to the interior AFAICR. Got pics?

 

[thebluebumblebee]

Negative pressure in the case pulling air in through the PSU? Especially one of those PSU's with a variable spped fan....

 

[80-watt Hamster]

Negative pressure in the case pulling air in through the PSU? Especially one of those PSU's with a variable spped fan....

Ooh, I didn't think of that. But I wouldn't think that a folding machine under load would have the fan running slow or idling. Maybe if it's REALLY over-spec'ed?

 

[Jacky_BEL]

No pics, but it looks like the normal PSU.
One is a repurposed ocz mxsp 700w , the other i don't remember the type.
Even with the sidepanel off, it has apparent reverse airflow.

The case with the other PSU in it, is a former gaming PC I built.
I think I had already taken care for good airflow at the time, with plenty intake fans.

 

[cine.chris]

Any closed case can have dead zones or areas with weak circulation.
Currently, I have two closed cases Folding, both now have side-mounted 120mm CoolerMaster Sickeflow fans.
I had issues cooling storage controller cards too, my cine edit station has 11 drives in it.
At one point I had two GPUs in this case, but the Asrock Extreme3 mobo wasn't up to powering a GTX1050Ti in the second slot and died.
It has a GTX1660 super now. I replaced the cheap blue fan with a Coolermaster too.
The 1660 is power capped at 92% and running at 63C.
The fan shown is a positive feed that pumps cool air into the pwr supply and GPU.

 

[Jacky_BEL]

I did change from an open air style GPU to a blowerfan style GPU in that case, that might have caused the change in airflow.
See if disconnecting the top exhaust fan will bring airflow back to normal.

The other PSU, well, I bought it second hand from a guy, together with MB and CPU.
The cooler on that CPU was really clogged up, so my guess is that the PSU is in no better shape.

Now, what's with the weather? Here we went from record high temperatures at the end of march, to low temps and even snow again.