Bitcoin price suddenly surges to 3-year high

[Space Lynx]

greed drives evolution. even in bacteria the competing bacterial cells will go out of their cilia to make potent toxin to kill as many its relatives as possible, in the name of making sure its own genetic materia have access to all the space and nutrients. That is way before those bacteria run into resources ceiling. Basically the moment they senses another bacteria cells nearby they switch on killing mode. We human are just a few more steps down the evolutionary tree. I mean we behave a bit better than bacteria cells but still, greed at the very foundation of genetic makeup.

incorrect. the most successful species are the ones that create a symbiosis with the environment around them.

longevity is key.

 

[R-T-B]

We human are just a few more steps down the evolutionary tree. I mean we behave a bit better than bacteria cells but still, greed at the very foundation of genetic makeup.

You act like that excuses it though. It doesn't.

incorrect. the most successful species are the ones that create a symbiosis with the environment around them.

Considering humans are the most succesful, not sure I'd argue this way, unless you want to call sheep/cattle successful (which they are by sheer numbers, mostly due to humans finding them tasty).

 

[Space Lynx]

You act like that excuses it though. It doesn't.

some people still live in the cave (Allegory of the Cave by Plato), it's not our fault if they never make the climb to see the Logos (Sunlight)

You act like that excuses it though. It doesn't.


Considering humans are the most succesful, not sure I'd argue this way, unless you want to call sheep/cattle successful (which they are by sheer numbers, mostly due to humans finding them tasty).

it depends what you consider successful. you consider destroying the entire earth and maybe even possible all future species successful? we have very interesting and different definitions of symbiosis with environment, success, and longevity.

 

[xkm1948]

incorrect. the most successful species are the ones that create a symbiosis with the environment around them.

longevity is key.

long lasting symbiosis is extremely rare. So far there is one good example: mitochondria and the first proto-eukaryote cell that took it in. Given chance most organism would get everything while doing nothing in return

You act like that excuses it though. It doesn't.


Considering humans are the most succesful, not sure I'd argue this way, unless you want to call sheep/cattle successful (which they are by sheer numbers, mostly due to humans finding them tasty).

Not excuse. Humans should be better, we are getting there as a species

 

[Space Lynx]

long lasting symbiosis is extremely rare. So far there is one good example: mitochondria and the first proto-eukaryote cell that took it in. Given chance most organism would get everything while doing nothing in return


Not excuse. Humans should be better, we are getting there as a species

birds. nitrogen makers and survived without too much issues for what... 200 million years? when i say symbiosis i mean one species helping another long term survival of both. humans do not do this. birds do with plants/trees. there are some other duo's like this in the ocean as well, I forget what they are right now though. our species probably won't last, just not sustainable, even the sustainable options we come up with are no sustainable due to our greed

 

[xkm1948]

birds. nitrogen makers and survived without too much issues for what... 200 million years? when i say symbiosis i mean one species helping another long term survival of both. humans do not do this. birds do with plants/trees. there are some other duo's like this in the ocean as well, I forget what they are right now though. our species probably won't last, just not sustainable, even the sustainable options we come up with are no sustainable due to our greed

it is difficult to stay positive. but as individuals we have to try.

 

[sepheronx]

I think many of you are thinking way too much over this.

 

[R-T-B]

So far there is one good example: mitochondria and the first proto-eukaryote cell that took it in.

Humans and everything they've domesticated. It's gene pool wise, benefited one more than the other, but both have their numbers and genetic stock swell.

Unless you are applying an absolutely geologic time scale.

I think many of you are thinking way too much over this.

I think many people don't think about our impacts enough, but it is indeed straying more into philosophy than price checking.

 

[RandallFlagg]

You act like that excuses it though. It doesn't.


Considering humans are the most succesful, not sure I'd argue this way, unless you want to call sheep/cattle successful (which they are by sheer numbers, mostly due to humans finding them tasty).

Hm, what makes ya think humans are the most successful in biological terms?

If you subscribe to evolution (and I don't) then homo sapiens have been around ~200,000 years. Thats 1/22000th of the age of the Earth and 1/1350th the age of the oldest known (still living) complex organism - a cephalopod @270,000,000 years.

If the time that cephalopod has been around as a species were put in terms of a avg 75 year human lifespan, then humans have been around about 3 weeks.

 

[R-T-B]

Hm, what makes ya think humans are the most successful in biological terms?

Impact on the planet (and hell, other bodies), primarily. Numbers and biomass. A few metrics. I wasn't even factoring in age of the species because that's rather arbitrary in my view. I mean most significant here and now, not 200 million years ago.

and I don't

Yeah, then you probably don't want to discuss science with us, no offense meant.

We really are in the wrong place anyhow. This is a bitcoin price topic.

 

[Space Lynx]

We probably should change back to topic now. Mods gonna be mad as crap when they stumble on this thread.

 

[trog100]

bitcoin just a took a hit last night.. its down to around 56K.. back where it was a couple of days ago.. he he

it think these dips are just whale manipulations.. they are taking advantage peoples tendency to panic sell and trying to profit by it..

buy the dips and hodle is the sensible way..

my two recently acquired 3080 cards are busy earning around $20 dollars a day and will soon pay for themselves..

while doing this they are also serving as normal daily use machines..

trog

 

[dgianstefani]

My mining rigs are quieter than the office PCs some of my mates use, and much faster, so I've got them setup, paying for the electricity, in exchange they get a solid computer to work and game on lmao.

 

[sepheronx]

bitcoin just a took a hit last night.. its down to around 56K.. back where it was a couple of days ago.. he he

it think these dips are just whale manipulations.. they are taking advantage peoples tendency to panic sell and trying to profit by it..

buy the dips and hodle is the sensible way..

my two recently acquired 3080 cards are busy earning around $20 dollars a day and will soon pay for themselves..

while doing this they are also serving as normal daily use machines..

trog

I couldn't even get 1 3080. I got 3 3070's making me roughly $22CAD a day. A little over 1 month a GPU is paid off. Waiting for a 6800xt now.

 

[trog100]

I couldn't even get 1 3080. I got 3 3070's making me roughly $22CAD a day. A little over 1 month a GPU is paid off. Waiting for a 6800xt now.

i paid £1045 for one of mine about 6 weeks back before the ebay price got too high.. the other one i bought as a prebuilt gaming PC for roughly the same as the ebay price for a 3080 card on its own.. i just got in right with that one they went up by £600 while i was waiting for mine to arrive..

they are available just not at the price most people are prepared to pay.. but even at todays ebay prices they would pay for themselves well within 6 months..

they are worth what they are worth..

trog

ps.. the current UK ebay price for a 3080 is around £1750 quid.. are they worth that.. to some people they must be.. else the ebay price would not be what it is..

 

[Metroid]

bitcoin just a took a hit last night.. its down to around 56K.. back where it was a couple of days ago.. he he

it think these dips are just whale manipulations.. they are taking advantage peoples tendency to panic sell and trying to profit by it..

buy the dips and hodle is the sensible way..

I wonder what you will say when the bear market comes and btc crashes 90% just like 2018. You will say that was panic sell too or manipulation, that I wonder hehe, this market will crash 95~99% just like 2011, 2014 and 2018.

 

[sepheronx]

I wonder what you will say when the bear market comes and btc crashes 90% just like 2018. You will say that was panic sell too or manipulation, that I wonder hehe, this market will crash 95~99% just like 2011, 2014 and 2018.

 

[trog100]

I wonder what you will say when the bear market comes and btc crashes 90% just like 2018. You will say that was panic sell too or manipulation, that I wonder hehe, this market will crash 95~99% just like 2011, 2014 and 2018.

it will also go back up many times over again just like it did in 2011 2014 2018.. what i do wish is that when bitcoin went down to 4k a couple of years back i had taken the spare cash i had sat in the bank doing f-ck all and bought a couple of bitcoin with it.. that couple of bitcoin would now be worth 120K...

let me ask you a question... what are you gonna say when bitcoin hits 200K before the end of this year.. ??

the main thing i have to say is.. the last time it crashed i didnt sell i simply held on to what i had and pretty much forgot about it.. my only mistake was not buying more when it was cheap..

trog

ps.. i have one advantage.. i dont need the bitcoin money i can afford to just sit on it an watch.. he he

 

[hat]

ps.. i have one advantage.. i dont need the bitcoin money i can afford to just sit on it an watch.. he he

That's why I'm happy with mining. My investment has more than paid for itself already, everything else is just icing on the cake. The only downside is, as with all investments... if only I had the foresight to hold on to everything I made when I started, I could probably afford a brand new car. Nothing fancy, though.

 

[R-T-B]

I wonder what you will say when the bear market comes and btc crashes 90% just like 2018. You will say that was panic sell too or manipulation, that I wonder hehe, this market will crash 95~99% just like 2011, 2014 and 2018.

As the graph posted shows, it has never in recent history crashed 90%. Your tooting a horn that doesn't actually exist.

what are you gonna say when bitcoin hits 200K before the end of this year.. ??

The same thing everyone making claims like this says when wrong about their baseless prediction: sheepish silence.

That goes for both sides making lofty claims, btw.

 

[Metroid]

it will also go back up many times over again just like it did in 2011 2014 2018.. what i do wish is that when bitcoin went down to 4k a couple of years back i had taken the spare cash i had sat in the bank doing f-ck all and bought a couple of bitcoin with it.. that couple of bitcoin would now be worth 120K...

let me ask you a question... what are you gonna say when bitcoin hits 200K before the end of this year.. ??

the main thing i have to say is.. the last time it crashed i didnt sell i simply held on to what i had and pretty much forgot about it.. my only mistake was not buying more when it was cheap..

trog

ps.. i have one advantage.. i dont need the bitcoin money i can afford to just sit on it an watch.. he he

Like I always say, sell while is high, this price will not last much longer.

As the graph posted shows, it has never in recent history crashed 90%. Your tooting a horn that doesn't actually exist.


The same thing everyone making claims like this says when wrong about their baseless prediction: sheepish silence.

That goes for both sides making lofty claims, btw.

eth from 1424 usd to 80 usd in 2018 is how much then? ada from 1.20 usd to 0.01 in 2018 is how much then?

 

[Space Lynx]

it will also go back up many times over again just like it did in 2011 2014 2018.. what i do wish is that when bitcoin went down to 4k a couple of years back i had taken the spare cash i had sat in the bank doing f-ck all and bought a couple of bitcoin with it.. that couple of bitcoin would now be worth 120K...

let me ask you a question... what are you gonna say when bitcoin hits 200K before the end of this year.. ??

the main thing i have to say is.. the last time it crashed i didnt sell i simply held on to what i had and pretty much forgot about it.. my only mistake was not buying more when it was cheap..

trog

ps.. i have one advantage.. i dont need the bitcoin money i can afford to just sit on it an watch.. he he

you are still making a classic mistake of investing though, and that is how much money do you really need to be extra happy/comfortable in life? if you cashed out now could you reach that? how much would it have to rise for you to reach that, and how realistic is that on the timetable?

if answer is yes what you have now if you cashed out 80% of it, left 20% in-case it does go to the moon, if that 80% would make you extra happy/comfortable in life right now, then cash out the 80% and enjoy life. you are not promised to be alive tomorrow. none of us are. speaking of which my left arm has been going numb lately. gg life lol

 

[R-T-B]

ada from 1.20 usd to 0.01 in 2018 is how much then?

Where on earth are you getting these numbers? I don't recall bitcoin touching sub $10.00 in 2018.

Recent history is relative aparently, for the other claim, which may well be valid, the 2018 crash was bad. Point is it bounced back, did not truly "pop."

Like I always say, sell while is high, this price will not last much longer.

You were advising bitcoin pizza man, weren't you?

 

[Metroid]

Where on earth are you getting these numbers? I don't recall bitcoin touching sub $10.00 in 2018.

Recent history is relative aparently, for the other claim, which may well be valid, the 2018 crash was bad. Point is it bounced back, did not truly "pop."


You were advising bitcoin pizza man, weren't you?

Bitcoin? talking about ada, bitcoin crashed from 20k to 3k, how much is than then?

 

[R-T-B]

talking about ada

That would explain a lot. Why on earth are you talking about ada in the bitcoin price thread?

Bitcoin? talking about ada, bitcoin crashed from 20k to 3k, how much is than then?

You can math. It's an 85% crash.