Intel Launches 11th Gen Core "Rocket Lake": Unmatched Overclocking and Gaming Performance

[Deleted member 205776]

buy AMD at the prices they are asking

Yeah no thanks

 

[agentnathan009]

Unlike AMD, Intel obviously cares about the poor people who want a decent gaming cpu at an affordable price.

That wasn't the case for many years, not until Zen changed the landscape. I personally don't think that AMD is overcharging for the performance. They have a solid, high performance product, they deserve to charge more for that product. Now, market conditions may dictate differently at times, but that is why I posted the link to Extremetech article, you are likely facing CPUs that WILL cost more in the future and this is a precursor of things to come as it costs more to make those smaller transistor CPUs. Get used to it and if you can't afford the latest and greatest, buy last gen gear. I cannot afford the latest and greatest, I make due with what I can afford.

Yeah no thanks

So you were lying about not supporting monopolies? Your lack of integrity is appalling.

 

[Deleted member 205776]

So you were lying about not supporting monopolies? Your lack of integrity is appalling.

You really think AMD is gonna be any better once they get comfy seeing people accept their ridiculous prices? Stop defending corporations, it makes you look pathetic.

 

[Why_Me]

That wasn't the case for many years, not until Zen changed the landscape. I personally don't think that AMD is overcharging for the performance. They have a solid, high performance product, they deserve to charge more for that product. Now, market conditions may dictate differently at times, but that is why I posted the link to Extremetech article, you are likely facing CPUs that WILL cost more in the future and this is a precursor of things to come as it costs more to make those smaller transistor CPUs. Get used to it and if you can't afford the latest and greatest, buy last gen gear. I cannot afford the latest and greatest, I make due with what I can afford.

If only AMD would do something like this instead of catering to the rich.

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i5-10400f-core-i5-10th-gen/p/N82E16819118132
Intel Core i5-10400F $149.95

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157977
ASRock B560 Pro4 $109.99

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232884
G.SKILL Aegis (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) CL16 $79.99

Total: $340

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119385
ASUS PRIME B560M-A $109.99

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119384?Item=N82E16813119384
ASUS PRIME B560-PLUS $119.99

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157976
ASRock B560 Steel Legend $129.99

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i5-10400f/
Intel Core i5-10400F Review - Six Cores with HT for Under $200

https://4youdaily.com/technology-an...cessor-review-do-you-still-like-ryzen-5-3600/
Core i5-10400 and Core i5-10400F Processor Review: Do You Still Like Ryzen 5 3600?

 

[billEST]

If only AMD would do something like this instead of catering to the rich.

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i5-10400f-core-i5-10th-gen/p/N82E16819118132
Intel Core i5-10400F $149.95

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157977
ASRock B560 Pro4 $109.99

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232884
G.SKILL Aegis (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) CL16 $79.99

Total: $340

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119385
ASUS PRIME B560M-A $109.99

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119384?Item=N82E16813119384
ASUS PRIME B560-PLUS $119.99

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157976
ASRock B560 Steel Legend $129.99

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i5-10400f/
Intel Core i5-10400F Review - Six Cores with HT for Under $200

https://4youdaily.com/technology-an...cessor-review-do-you-still-like-ryzen-5-3600/
Core i5-10400 and Core i5-10400F Processor Review: Do You Still Like Ryzen 5 3600?

and you dont show itx board .....
and you dont show 10 degres less


remember you need 2666 memory .. is less expensive or give by amd fanboy ...

 

[Mussels]

540 vs 450 is quite a difference

especially when the 5800x is the gaming performance king, it's allowed to be worse in price: performance for its niche status

 

[agentnathan009]

You really think AMD is gonna be any better once they get comfy seeing people accept their ridiculous prices? Stop defending corporations, it makes you look pathetic.

Perhaps, but they are far from that point, it took Intel around 6-10 years to rest on their laurels and become slothful.

Just because your understanding of business is lacking doesn’t mean I am defending evil corporations. I have been around long enough to have seen that businesses have to make a profit and sometimes things happen that cost them a lot of money and either they cover that cost or close their doors. Just because a business doesn’t bend over backwards to offer you a product that you want at a price that you want to pay (whether they can afford to do so is another matter) doesn’t mean that you are not the selfish entity in the equation.

Don’t be sour, we are living in another golden age of CPU performance gains with each generation, double digit lately, rather than meager 5% or less as was the case with Intel with Sky Lake and Haswell uarch.

Did I want a quad core with HT when those were the hot new processors from Intel? Of course; could I afford the premium price for those products? No, I could not afford high end CPU hardware. Was I sour about it? Not really, I figured that someday as prices fell I could afford multi-core CPUs. Now I have a hex core that is serving me well for gaming and everything else I do, and it is only an optimized first gen Ryzen.

 

[Why_Me]

and you dont show itx board .....
and you dont show 10 degres less
remember you need 2666 memory .. is less expensive or give by amd fanboy ...

The B560 boards support 3200MHz memory just like the Z490 board does used in these benchmarks. btw the i5 11400F supports 3200MHz RAM and will come in at $180 USD .. still cheaper than the $200 Ryzen 3600.

i5 10400F w/3200 RAM highlighted in green.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i5-10400f/15.html

 

[agentnathan009]

If only AMD would do something like this instead of catering to the rich.

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i5-10400f-core-i5-10th-gen/p/N82E16819118132
Intel Core i5-10400F $149.95

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157977
ASRock B560 Pro4 $109.99

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232884
G.SKILL Aegis (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) CL16 $79.99

Total: $340

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119385
ASUS PRIME B560M-A $109.99

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119384?Item=N82E16813119384
ASUS PRIME B560-PLUS $119.99

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157976
ASRock B560 Steel Legend $129.99

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i5-10400f/
Intel Core i5-10400F Review - Six Cores with HT for Under $200

https://4youdaily.com/technology-an...cessor-review-do-you-still-like-ryzen-5-3600/
Core i5-10400 and Core i5-10400F Processor Review: Do You Still Like Ryzen 5 3600?

Is the 3600 a capable CPU, yes. Does it cost a little more than the 10400, yes. Is it a gaming king with framerates, no. Is it a capable gaming CPU, yes. You guys have short memories.... You forget what Intel was doing not all that long ago where they were the more expensive brand and now that they have true competition, they have been dropping the prices on their products. Win for us.

 

[Mussels]

When companies are doing poorly, they crunch down, trim the fat and become lean.

When they are lean if they expand again, all that budget goes to R&D and new products... until over a few years they spread the finances out into all the nice bloaty things big companies like.
Then eventually more and more goes into the bloat, and not the R&D and we end up with modern intel.

Yes, AMD will end up there in a few years - intel is approaching a crunch right now, the only mystery is how long before their next true killer product... or if they just rely on shady business practises to keep the money flowing despite flawed products and drag it out even longer intentionally

 

[agentnathan009]

The B560 boards support 3200MHz memory just like the Z490 board does used in these benchmarks. btw the i5 11400F supports 3200MHz RAM and will come in at $180 USD .. still cheaper than the $200 Ryzen 3600.

i5 10400F w/3200 RAM highlighted in green.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i5-10400f/15.html

Oh my goodness, stop the presses, breaking news, the AMD 3600 CPU is an apocalyptic 6% slower than the mighty Intel i5-10400! I guess you can't remember that Intel was charging premium prices a few years ago, were you complaining then as well?

 

[Nater]

especially when the 5800x is the gaming performance king, it's allowed to be worse in price: performance for its niche status

Especially when it's working in the same rig I built 2 years ago w/ a Ryzen 5 2600.

 

[Why_Me]

Oh my goodness, stop the presses, breaking news, the AMD 3600 CPU is an apocalyptic 6% slower than the mighty Intel i5-10400! I guess you can't remember that Intel was charging premium prices a few years ago, were you complaining then as well?

The money saved by going with the cheaper yet faster intel build can be put towards other components such as a larger SSD or even a non existent gpu (damn you miners).

 

[efikkan]

That much for an 8 core?

Why does it matter?
Shouldn't you only care what real-world performance it offers and at what power consumption?

If someone made a 4 core that was >2-3x faster than a 12 core and priced competitively, wouldn't you buy it?

People are too fixated about specs, specs which they usually know little about. You shouldn't get fixated in cores, threads, clock speeds, caches, gimmicks etc. all of those are ways to achieve what really matters; performance.

Well...with the "Alder Lake" CPU virtually on our doorstep I hate to guess what the prices will then be for us to shell-out? Then in tune the all new mandated LGA 1700 mobos announcing themselves as well. The Z590 Asus Hero VIII now runs at $500 and this is not even their top-end board. So essentially all mobo manufacturers get to "double-dip" into profits this year as well. So everything we see right now runs at $500 plus.

We have no confirmation of the launch window for Alder Lake. It could be very late 2021, but quite possibly later.
If you're looking for a bargain, you would probably have to wait very long, availability of Alder Lake will likely be restricted the first few months. DDR5 will not be cheap in the beginning either. And don't forget the hybrid models will probably encounter a lot of software issues. Who wants to be beta testers for that?

2021, 14nm+++++++++++++++++++++, base clock 2.5ghz tdp 60w --> real tdp 150w , boost clock 5.2ghz 120w, real tdp 500 watts.

Please stop posting this FUD.

 

[Deleted member 205776]

Why does it matter?
Shouldn't you only care what real-world performance it offers and at what power consumption?

If someone made a 4 core that was >2-3x faster than a 12 core and priced competitively, wouldn't you buy it?

People are too fixated about specs, specs which they usually know little about. You shouldn't get fixated in cores, threads, clock speeds, caches, gimmicks etc. all of those are ways to achieve what really matters; performance.

Would rather get the 10850K over the 11900K, if performance is a factor. That price for an 8 core regardless of performance is abysmal.

 

[efikkan]

Would rather get the 10850K over the 11900K, if performance is a factor. That price for an 8 core regardless of performance is abysmal.

i9-11900K is going to beat i9-10850K in most non-synthetic workloads.
Why are you fixating on an arbitrary specification as your criteria over actual performance? This is completely irrational!

 

[Deleted member 205776]

Rocket Lake in itself is arbitrary, and so are these prices. If both parties are gonna keep pricing these CPUs like this I may delay my next upgrade for the next two decades or so.

This is completely irrational!

Eh, maybe, haven't slept in 20 hours. Looking back at it, i7-11700K seems like a more reasonable choice over the i9-11900K. This gen's flagship is a disappointment.

 

[billEST]

The B560 boards support 3200MHz memory just like the Z490 board does used in these benchmarks. btw the i5 11400F supports 3200MHz RAM and will come in at $180 USD .. still cheaper than the $200 Ryzen 3600.

i5 10400F w/3200 RAM highlighted in green.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i5-10400f/15.html

the goal is not do 3200 ( in some test is not better ) but do the more powerfull and economic machine : like amd say before

and if you do a 10400 and B460 and 2666 memory you can do a very , very good pc and the 100 buck put in graphic card ( when price will be normal )

 

[Basard]

Wait.... what is happening?

I've been out of the loop for almost six months....

Did they JUST release an 8 core chip that BARELY out-clocks my 8700k?

They've either given up or are about to release a quantum chip that runs at room temp.

 

[Mussels]

Wait.... what is happening?

I've been out of the loop for almost six months....

Did they JUST release an 8 core chip that BARELY out-clocks my 8700k?

They've either given up or are about to release a quantum chip that runs at room temp.

this was the new CPU design they had to scale down to 14nm - probably better IPC, but high wattage is to be expected (but not bad thermals, 14nm is good for getting heat out)

 

[Gmr_Chick]

Unlike AMD, Intel obviously cares about the poor people who want a decent gaming cpu at an affordable price.

If only AMD would do something like this instead of catering to the rich.

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i5-10400f-core-i5-10th-gen/p/N82E16819118132
Intel Core i5-10400F $149.95

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157977
ASRock B560 Pro4 $109.99

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232884
G.SKILL Aegis (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) CL16 $79.99

Total: $340

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119385
ASUS PRIME B560M-A $109.99

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119384?Item=N82E16813119384
ASUS PRIME B560-PLUS $119.99

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157976
ASRock B560 Steel Legend $129.99

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i5-10400f/
Intel Core i5-10400F Review - Six Cores with HT for Under $200

https://4youdaily.com/technology-an...cessor-review-do-you-still-like-ryzen-5-3600/
Core i5-10400 and Core i5-10400F Processor Review: Do You Still Like Ryzen 5 3600?

Good lawd, we get it, you're an Intel fanboy. And stop with this fantasy that Intel -- INTEL -- "obviously cares about the poor people who want a decent gaming CPU at an affordable price" horseshit, bud. First off, they aren't fucking Mother Teresa; they DO NOT care about the "poor gamers" and THEY NEVER HAVE. I mean, JFC if it weren't for AMD striking back hard with Ryzen, there's not a geek here that doesn't already know Intel would still be rocking dual core i3's, quad core i5's and hexa core i7's at batshit crazy prices. Intel had to get off their complacent ass BECAUSE OF RYZEN.

Second, quit acting like the 3600 gets annihilated by the 10400F. News flash, it doesn't. The difference between the two CPUs is damn near insignificant, so much so that you really can't go wrong with EITHER one.

Oh my goodness, stop the presses, breaking news, the AMD 3600 CPU is an apocalyptic 6% slower than the mighty Intel i5-10400! I guess you can't remember that Intel was charging premium prices a few years ago, were you complaining then as well?

^ This!

 

[ViperXTR]

oh look, it turning into another muh intcel vs ayyyymd
war, war never changes

 

[Deleted member 205776]

oh look, it turning into another muh intcel vs ayyyymd
war, war never changes

The age old debate.

 

[Gmr_Chick]

Hahaha, as far as I'm concerned, AMD vs. Intel is just another one of those great rivalries alongside Coke vs. Pepsi and Ford vs. Chevy. Coincidentally, all of which share a "red vs. blue" theme

There's also Giants vs. Dodgers but...well, you get the idea

 

[Why_Me]

Good lawd, we get it, you're an Intel fanboy. And stop with this fantasy that Intel -- INTEL -- "obviously cares about the poor people who want a decent gaming CPU at an affordable price" horseshit, bud. First off, they aren't fucking Mother Teresa; they DO NOT care about the "poor gamers" and THEY NEVER HAVE. I mean, JFC if it weren't for AMD striking back hard with Ryzen, there's not a geek here that doesn't already know Intel would still be rocking dual core i3's, quad core i5's and hexa core i7's at batshit crazy prices. Intel had to get off their complacent ass BECAUSE OF RYZEN.

Second, quit acting like the 3600 gets annihilated by the 10400F. News flash, it doesn't. The difference between the two CPUs is damn near insignificant, so much so that you really can't go wrong with EITHER one.



^ This!

I admire value and the fact Intel allows us poors to build a solid gaming rig for cheaper than what AMD allows. That and I'm all for plug & play builds these days. If you look at the System Builders Advice forum on here there's a couple of threads that are two and three pages deep on what RAM to get for an AMD build. I see that and all I can think is 'wtf'.