NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Anti-Mining Feature Bypassed by HDMI Dummy Plug

john_ · Mar 22, 2021

This is what Nvidia bought with that marketing trick
Unlike Nvidia, AMD Doesn't Mind If You Use Its Gaming GPUs To Mine Ethereum

Advanced Micro Devices, Inc (NASDAQ: AMD) is taking a diametrically opposite stand to Nvidia Corporation (NASDAQ: NVDA) on putting restrictions on the use of its gaming graphics cards for cryptocurrency mining, PC Gamer reported.

Unlike Nvidia, AMD Doesn't Mind If You Use Its Gaming GPUs To Mine Ethereum

Advanced Micro Devices, Inc (NASDAQ: AMD) is taking a diametrically opposite stand to Nvidia Corporation (NASDAQ: NVDA) on putting restrictions on the use of its gaming graphics cards for cryptocurrency mining, PC Gamer reported. What Happened: AMD reportedly confirmed that it would not be...

finance.yahoo.com

This kind of titles are all over the internet. "Nvidia doesn't want you to mine with their cards"
Yeah, right!

nguyen · Mar 22, 2021

john_ said:
This is what Nvidia bought with that marketing trick
Unlike Nvidia, AMD Doesn't Mind If You Use Its Gaming GPUs To Mine Ethereum

Unlike Nvidia, AMD Doesn't Mind If You Use Its Gaming GPUs To Mine Ethereum

Advanced Micro Devices, Inc (NASDAQ: AMD) is taking a diametrically opposite stand to Nvidia Corporation (NASDAQ: NVDA) on putting restrictions on the use of its gaming graphics cards for cryptocurrency mining, PC Gamer reported. What Happened: AMD reportedly confirmed that it would not be...

finance.yahoo.com

This kind of titles are all over the internet. "Nvidia doesn't want you to mine with their cards"
Yeah, right!

Well that's not surprising since AMD put console gamers above PC gamers already, might as well put miners on top too :roll:

ZoneDymo · Mar 22, 2021

bug said:
Seriously TPU, get rid of this guy. This is not news, this was part of the original driver debacle.
Even videocardz covered this better and more objective: https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-...-without-rtx-3060-ethereum-hash-rate-limitier

not entirely sure where you are coming from, I personally just know of some beta drivers that messed things up, this is news to me and im actually one of the more interested people soooo yeah I dont mind this article.

Xaled · Mar 22, 2021

bug said:
If you think the most basic fact checking counts as internet propaganda, that says more about you than it says about me.

Fact-checking what? do you mean that
Nvidia Geforce RTX 3060 Anti-Mining Feature isnt Bypassed by HDMI Dummy Plug?
or Nvidias accident claim was just a lie?

bug · Mar 22, 2021

ZoneDymo said:
not entirely sure where you are coming from, I personally just know of some beta drivers that messed things up, this is news to me and im actually one of the more interested people soooo yeah I dont mind this article.

Like I posted above (and nobody cared to read), this was covered with much better quality by sites known for low-quality journalism.

kapone32 · Mar 22, 2021

nguyen said:
Well that's not surprising since AMD put console gamers above PC gamers already, might as well put miners on top too

Yep AMD's rasterization really sucks with the 6000 series cards. I guess the 5000 series cards sucked too.

AusWolf · Mar 22, 2021

Everybody knew this would happen eventually, alongside the "accidentally" released beta driver. If a GPU is architecturally good at mining, then no software or firmware lock will stop miners from buying it. Everything else is pure marketing BS.

nguyen · Mar 22, 2021

kapone32 said:
Yep AMD's rasterization really sucks with the 6000 series cards. I guess the 5000 series cards sucked too.

Well my sarcasm detection meter didn't go off and my confusion meter is sky high, what is RX6000 and RX5000 performance has got to do with anything?
I'm just saying AMD is prioritising console, 80% of AMD's capacity go into making console chips while the remaining 20% go into making CPU and GPU (3-4% capacity go into Big Navi), that is just sad.

ZoneDymo · Mar 22, 2021

bug said:
Like I posted above (and nobody cared to read), this was covered with much better quality by sites known for low-quality journalism.

Yeah ok great? sooo this information that probably wasnt originally included on some article on this site now is added and because other websites covered it better iyo this should just flat out not be posted to begin with?

kapone32 · Mar 22, 2021

nguyen said:
Well my sarcasm detection meter didn't go off and my confusion meter is sky high, what is RX6000 and RX5000 performance has got to do with anything?
I'm just saying AMD is prioritising console, 80% of AMD's capacity go into making console chips while the remaining 20% go into making CPU and GPU (3-4% capacity go into Big Navi), that is just sad.

I was talking about performance. Since my area re-opened about 2 weeks ago I have seen more 6000 series cards on the shelf for pickup than Nvidia cards. The biggest impact on stock (as I have said before) is because we do not have anywhere near the supply chain protocols we had before Covid. Example commercial and passenger flight. Due to the downturn in travel Companies can no longer buy a seat and replace the weight with product. If there were 36 flights to China from the airport near where I live before COVid where 36 flights would be coming back to Toronto and have the capacity to bring 1 pallet each of GPUs. Those flights are now maybe 5 to 6 a week.

ZoneDymo · Mar 22, 2021

nguyen said:
Well my sarcasm detection meter didn't go off and my confusion meter is sky high, what is RX6000 and RX5000 performance has got to do with anything?
I'm just saying AMD is prioritising console, 80% of AMD's capacity go into making console chips while the remaining 20% go into making CPU and GPU (3-4% capacity go into Big Navi), that is just sad.

If the consoles sell that much better (and they do) then its not sad, its just logical.

Vya Domus · Mar 22, 2021

64K said:
Scalpers

OK, who's paying 3000$ for a 3080 ? Gamers ? Be real, it's overwhelmingly just miners who can afford to pay so much for these.

64K said:
Shortages of PCBs and components to go on PCBs

The shortages are only in relation to the massive demand, otherwise the volume of video cards being made is probably at an all time high.

If shortages really were a thing, miners couldn't have filled warehouses full of video cards and laptops and everything else that has a GPU in it in the first place.

bug · Mar 22, 2021

ZoneDymo said:
Yeah ok great? sooo this information that probably wasnt originally included on some article on this site now is added and because other websites covered it better iyo this should just flat out not be posted to begin with?

There are several factors involved in bypassing the protection. Reporting each and every one of these factors as a separate defeat of the protection is low-quality reporting/click-bait.
Either get the story straight from the beginning or add things that you missed to the original story. It's not hard.
I mean, that trick also doesn't work if the cards are connected using a riser. Should I expect, a week from now, another article about "Nvidia's anti-mining protection defeated by not using a riser card"?

AleksandarK · Mar 22, 2021

bug said:
Your posts are usually tabloid-level quality and I can't filter them out.
I mean, take a journalism class or something if you're not doing it on purpose.

You are of course free to have an opinion about me. I am trying my best to keep the reports as clean as possible, with the information presented in a clear way. Shall you have any suggestions, please DM me and elaborate on them.

bug · Mar 22, 2021

AleksandarK said:
You are of course free to have an opinion about me. I am trying my best to keep the reports as clean as possible, with the information presented in a clear way. Shall you have any suggestions, please DM me and elaborate on them.

Believe me, I'm trying hard not to make this personal. But your articles stand out, I can tell the author just going by their style. Not always, but most of the time.

r9 · Mar 22, 2021

Restricting the GPUs for mining ia just ridiculous.
As much I'm being annoyed that can't get gpu at normal price the dollars from the miners are same shade of green. I don't see why a company would cut themselves out of a whole market.
The problem is that they don't produce enough simple as that.
Crypto price is gonna crash again like the last time simple as that as it has no real value, less then vbucks. The bubble will burst and there will be a lot of crying.
Optimally the nvidia and amd increase the production to meet the demand and at the se time crypto no longer profitable there will be some bargain prices.

ppn · Mar 22, 2021

PCIE 8x requirement still exists, so miners will have to buy a ton of motherboards cpus and memory sticks to go with that. well, 8 times more.

TheoneandonlyMrK · Mar 22, 2021

bug said:
One more guy that gets it, tyvm.
Add to that the general shortage of chips that hits several industries. I mean, miners are certainly not helping, but it's not like if mining went away tomorrow the problem will go away as well.

Add to that the tangential balls Nvidia defender's pull out their asses and you get way off topic , this ain't about the shortages it's about the plagiarism lies and bullshit Nvidia's peddled lately.

And the exposure of that.

Mining locked my arse , one of 10000 coins and they fecked it up so bad they will be the gamer's friends laugh of the year.

ppn · Mar 22, 2021

All they have to do is lock it to 16X slot only. try to bypass that with a dummy slot.

bug · Mar 22, 2021

ppn said:
All they have to do is lock it to 16X slot only. try to bypass that with a dummy slot.

It's not a dummy slot, it's a dummy HDMI connector. It's only supposed to work as long as a monitor is attached, but you can fake that with a dummy connector.
This is all moot, even if you tick all the boxes, it only works with 3060, you are limited to as many cards as you can directly insert into a motherboard (i.e. 3) and even then, the driver is reported to only work with cards from some manufacturers. This can be seen as a defeat of the protections (which it technically is), but it yields some configurations no serious miner would have a use for.

TheoneandonlyMrK · Mar 22, 2021

bug said:
It's not a dummy slot, it's a dummy HDMI connector. It's only supposed to work as long as a monitor is attached, but you can fake that with a dummy connector.
This is all moot, even if you tick all the boxes, it only works with 3060, you are limited to as many cards as you can directly insert into a motherboard (i.e. 3) and even then, the driver is reported to only work with cards from some manufacturers. This can be seen as a defeat of the protections (which it technically is), but it yields some configurations no serious miner would have a use for.

Virtcoin.
Or many others

No limits. ..,..,..... Ever.
Virtcoin is not a bad alternative coin to mine even.

So yeah moot since day one.

yotano211 · Mar 22, 2021

Caring1 said:
48MH/s still seems low to me, or maybe I'm comparing with the 3080 which has a much higher rate.

The 3080 also has more gpu cores. The 3060 is more efficient in mining per hash rate/power draw.

Darller · Mar 22, 2021

bug said:
Your posts are usually tabloid-level quality and I can't filter them out.
I mean, take a journalism class or something if you're not doing it on purpose.

It's pretty harsh, but 100% accurate. I can tell when it's an AleksandarK article from the poor grammar, lack of fact checks, and overall low quality of content.

64K · Mar 22, 2021

Vya Domus said:
OK, who's paying 3000$ for a 3080 ? Gamers ? Be real, it's overwhelmingly just miners who can afford to pay so much for these.

The shortages are only in relation to the massive demand, otherwise the volume of video cards being made is probably at an all time high.

If shortages really were a thing, miners couldn't have filled warehouses full of video cards and laptops and everything else that has a GPU in it in the first place.

I never said that very many gamers would pay $3,000 for a 3080. It's obvious the miners are driving those insane prices. Even before the mining craze really took off the scalpers were selling 3080s for $300 to $500 over MSRP to gamers. I have been watching the prices since release. When the current mining craze falls off the scalpers will sell for a lot less but they will still be scalping.

The shortages of PCBs and components for the cards was reported months ago by Jensen Huang but anyway it doesn't matter. A shortage is still a shortage and there will be shortages afer the miners leave the GPU market just like before because gamers will be buying a lot of the 3080s because they can now afford them.

ZoneDymo · Mar 22, 2021

bug said:
There are several factors involved in bypassing the protection. Reporting each and every one of these factors as a separate defeat of the protection is low-quality reporting/click-bait.
Either get the story straight from the beginning or add things that you missed to the original story. It's not hard.
I mean, that trick also doesn't work if the cards are connected using a riser. Should I expect, a week from now, another article about "Nvidia's anti-mining protection defeated by not using a riser card"?

OK now that I can get behind and it is something that TPU does every now and then with the header then having an UPDATED next to it.
But I do feel your reaction was a bit too strong.

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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Anti-Mining Feature Bypassed by HDMI Dummy Plug

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