Hardware Elitism - a tech scourge that needs to die.

[R-T-B]

i feel this would be a great post from a member, but not so great from staff, as it presents an arbitrary 'watch out or ill get ya' message.

maybe we have differing definitions of the word 'scourge' , i dunno, im not one for pushing my beliefs on others

When I was staff, I was reminded I could wear two hats. My member hat and my staff hat.

I think clarification which this is coming from would be nice, but I still agree with the premise.

 

[FireFox]

I've seen people being ridiculed for having a 'below par' hardware set-up.

I don't know you but I've seen people being ridiculed for buying high end Hardware, that said it's not just one side but both

 

[Shrek]

That is not the point here at all!

I think we need to get used to the fact that more than half the people feel they are above average.

 

[the54thvoid]

When I was staff, I was reminded I could wear two hats. My member hat and my staff hat.

I think clarification which this is coming from would be nice, but I still agree with the premise.

No clarification needed. It was a member post. I'm still a member. But when I see things that are unfair, I have the capacity to hand out infractions. That being said, I know the general difference between 'banter' and offence, i.e. we're still allowed to be PCMasterRace (are we not?). It's tongue in cheek. Many PC's are lesser than a console.

I also don't want my post to be taken as anything other than a member post. And I certainly don't want finger pointing. All I'd like to see, as a member first (and mod second) is a little more consideration before shitposting.

And to clarify the point it goes for both ends of spectrum. Tech is tech - so let's talk tech.

 

[kruk]

It's clear that some companies actively promote such kind of elitism as this enables them to make more profit and keep the shareholders happy. With good competition and price wars this is harder to pull off, but with this years supply problems no such thing exists anymore. The gap between entry level and high end PCs has now become enormous and might never go back, further worsening the problem . Kind of sad, really ...

 

[R-T-B]

I don't know you but I've seen people being ridiculed for buying high end Hardware, that said it's not just one side but both

I agree both should be considered for what they are: basically bullying.

 

[Shrek]

It's clear that some companies actively promote such kind of elitism

My Honda is on its first clutch at over 200,000mi; that sort of performance tends to make me a bit of a Honda snob.

 

[Splinterdog]

Reminds me of Harley riders who refuse to wave to the rest of us mere mortals.

 

[GerKNG]

tbh i wouldn't even recommend any high end hardware in these days. (gets obsolete in a blink and costs as much as a decent used car)

i'd just laugh about people who attack others for not wasting 5-6 grand for a 3090 SLI build that will have lower FPS than a XX70 card in a few years...

and yes i own several 3070s, 3080s, a 3090, a 6900XT and tons of other cards (2080 Tis, 1080 Tis, all cards in between and high end CPUs from the last 10 Years) and i still HIGHLY recommend to NOT buy any of the high end stuff (especially not to "Feel better")

 

[Zach_01]

Devil's advocate: don't we need people who are willing to pay top dollar for the latest and greatest so it succeeds and becomes cheaper?

My house is full of old equipment that people dumped as no longer being hip.

Lower-end or entry level equipment/hardware mocking is the subject here.

 

[freeagent]

A comment had been made to me about my current hardware paired with my GPU.. Honestly.. if I had a new GPU that is no guarantee that I would game more. @ 1080p my GPU is still ok.. ish. I bought about 15 games over the last year, and played them for just a few minutes. Right now I am more interested in tinkering with my system and reading then games. For me I was the only breadwinner in a family of four for the last 7 years, so I didn't have money for any toys lol.. But now I do and cant buy them without offering up one of my kids as trade. But! Like I said before, no hard feelings.. just in case you happen to see this.. it just is what it is these days. I don't judge, that's above my pay grade.

 

[Fouquin]

My Honda is on its first clutch at over 200,000mi; that sort of performance tends to make me a bit of a Honda snob.

And my Ford Ranger is on its first clutch at 218K miles even after I taught three of my friends to drive stick in that truck. But that really isn't the point. Nobody needs to be combative over brand names just because they've seen [brand 1] do better than [brand 2] in a single sample anecdote. Just talk about the mechanics and the tech, don't bash others over the head with your biases attempting to fit them into your clique.

 

[Shrek]

Lower-end or entry level equipment/hardware mocking is the subject here.

Since we seem to be attacking them here I thought to maybe come to their defense; see both sides of the argument so to speak.

don't bash others

But this thread is all about bashing the elitists...

Life is complicated.

 

[erocker]

This isn't anything new. Good to see some are catching on I guess.

 

[Fouquin]

But this thread is all about bashing the elitists...

No, this thread is about not being a dick full stop.

 

[maxfly]

Its about showing each other respect. Its not hard to do. Treat others the same way you would like to be treated.
It has very little to do with hardware or tech talk imo. Its just common courtesy.

 

[Palladium]

tbh i wouldn't even recommend any high end hardware in these days. (gets obsolete in a blink and costs as much as a decent used car)

i'd just laugh about people who attack others for not wasting 5-6 grand for a 3090 SLI build that will have lower FPS than a XX70 card in a few years...

and yes i own several 3070s, 3080s, a 3090, a 6900XT and tons of other cards (2080 Tis, 1080 Tis, all cards in between and high end CPUs from the last 10 Years) and i still HIGHLY recommend to NOT buy any of the high end stuff (especially not to "Feel better")

I can also easily afford all those combined but I chose not to buy any, since the AAA games that needs those $$$ GPUs to run well are all borefests to me anyway.

 

[Shrek]

And yet in some ways we need our elite, our

Flemings
Einsteins
Teslas

the talented ones, not the arrogant ones.

 

[Selaya]

Elitism has as much in common with elite as oxygen with oxymoron ...
(sorry for the awful analogy.)

 

[Shrek]

A most excellent point and the source of my confusion.

 

[Zach_01]

Since we seem to be attacking them here I thought to maybe come to their defense; see both sides of the argument so to speak.


But this thread is all about bashing the elitists...

Life is complicated.

The misunderstanding or confusion if you prefer is this...

This thread is not about users who buy the expensive (most expensive or not). Its about some of them being snob of anything else lower than what they have.
Point of @Selaya post...

And just because the OP brought that up, and rest of us talking about them, its not necessarily about bashing anyone.
I think @the54thvoid was polite (and we should keep it like that) in OP and I believe the phrase

"It's a disgrace. A despicable representation of the worst of ourselves."

is a shake up towards those who do it, aiming for improvement. Any kind.
A potential change of mind is the best that could happen but just a stop to this kind of expression is also welcomed and sufficient.

 

[rtwjunkie]

@the54thvoid Thank you for this.

This hardware elitism burns me up as well. I’ve earned a few slaps on the hand for having words with these snobs who judge everything from what they can afford. Many are oblivious that all people aren’t on the same economic level.

Likewise, this hardware elitism also permeates any attempts to direct conversations to how trends in hardware affect the masses that are not on tech sites like this. People here need to remember that we are a minority.

In turn, even among “techies”, those who can afford to buy the most expensive toys are an even bigger minority.

 

[Deleted member 205776]

tbh i wouldn't even recommend any high end hardware in these days. (gets obsolete in a blink and costs as much as a decent used car)

i'd just laugh about people who attack others for not wasting 5-6 grand for a 3090 SLI build that will have lower FPS than a XX70 card in a few years...

and yes i own several 3070s, 3080s, a 3090, a 6900XT and tons of other cards (2080 Tis, 1080 Tis, all cards in between and high end CPUs from the last 10 Years) and i still HIGHLY recommend to NOT buy any of the high end stuff (especially not to "Feel better")

This is why I practically only buy xx70 cards, or the alternative from the competitor. I laughed this time when my 3070 is better than the previous generation $1200 flagship.

 

[KainXS]

Years ago I remember on TPU this was a big thing but now this kind of thing should be dead. We are living in times where GPU prices have spiked to levels that I could not have even imagined even when this was happening then. For it to still be happening now with all thats going on, idiots insulting others for not being able to afford the newest hardware is ridiculous. In most cases you don't even need the higher end stuff. You can get away with running older hardware for years after if comes out so you don't really need new hardware either(I ran my 3770k for 6 years and it was still gaming fine).

I'm honestly suprised that there is still a lot of elitism going on with the insaneomax prices right now.

 

[Atomic77]

I get the feeling that I am not liked on this forum. It seems like every time I say something I get ripped apart. But I do what I do and I believe in my tech as everything I have done has worked for me to date.