Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

[KainXS]

I have the same mobo as you, I would get crashed if I enabled PBO. disable PBO in BIOS and leave cpu at stock. see if it crashed after that. also is the ram QVL for that mobo? double check. and if it is then turn on xmp, if its not then use the "memory try it" feature. i use the memory try it feature and its worked out great for me. if you get crashes still after that, lower the memory try it feature a little bit.

found out what was causing them, I cheaped out and bought this cheap fan hub on amazon and it worked at first but it failed and would only have the fans ramp up to about 300rpm, chaos ensued. Replaced with a deepcool hub and have not had an issue in 2 weeks now even with PBO.

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[Space Lynx]

found out what was causing them, I cheaped out and bought this cheap fan hub on amazon and it worked at first but it failed and would only have the fans ramp up to about 300rpm, chaos ensued. Replaced with a deepcool hub and have not had an issue in 2 weeks now even with PBO.

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that's not my issue, I don't use a fan hub and my temps never break 60 celsius even under prime95. and stock works just fine rock solid. i ended up doing a low voltage all core of 4.5 1.250v no downclocking and its rock solid and runs cold. an extra 200 mhz isn't worth the heat imo

 

[grunt_408]

Anyone tell me the usual symptoms of memory controller dying on a Ryzen 7 1700. I had an issue with mine where it suddenly would not post with all 4 ram slots populated. After some mucking around I managed to find that no matter which pair of sticks I used it will now post with 2 ram slots just not 4.... does not matter which slots. I still every now and then get a memory management bsod running the 2 slots.. Now I am aware it could be the board but a hunch tells me its the cpu. Just keen to hear if anyone else has run into this with the 1700.

 

[Mussels]

Anyone tell me the usual symptoms of memory controller dying on a Ryzen 7 1700. I had an issue with mine where it suddenly would not post with all 4 ram slots populated. After some mucking around I managed to find that no matter which pair of sticks I used it will now post with 2 ram slots just not 4.... does not matter which slots. I still every now and then get a memory management bsod running the 2 slots.. Now I am aware it could be the board but a hunch tells me its the cpu. Just keen to hear if anyone else has run into this with the 1700.

check all the pins and blow dust out of slots and socket? sounds like an IMC issue for sure

oh wait i knew this problem sounded familiar, i already told you this

 

[thesmokingman]

That stuff doesn't just fail or degrade all on its own...

 

[grunt_408]

check all the pins and blow dust out of slots and socket? sounds like an IMC issue for sure

oh wait i knew this problem sounded familiar, i already told you this

Yes indeed you did.. Just was curious to see if anyone else has had it happen. I have never had the cpu out of the socket so there would be no dust or bent pins etc.

 

[Mussels]

Yes indeed you did.. Just was curious to see if anyone else has had it happen. I have never had the cpu out of the socket so there would be no dust or bent pins etc.

what you didnt say here is that you moved house, thats plenty of ways for things to get shaken loose or dust shaken in

 

[8BitZ80]

Seven days without a single WHEA error. I think they're finally gone

So it wasn't overclocking instability after all. In fact for the last week I've been running the Curve Optimizer at -30 on five cores.

All I did was disable the Diagnostics Policy Service in Windows that was reporting the errors and now it's all good.

 

[Mussels]

Seven days without a single WHEA error. I think they're finally gone

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So it wasn't overclocking instability after all. In fact for the last week I've been running the Curve Optimizer at -30 on five cores.

All I did was disable the Diagnostics Policy Service in Windows that was reporting the errors and now it's all good.

wait... what you did was disable the ability for it TO report the errors

you shot the mailman and you're excited he never delivered the mail

 

[8BitZ80]

wait... what you did was disable the ability for it TO report the errors

you shot the mailman and you're excited he never delivered the mail

 

[Muaadib]

I Bought a B550 motherboard (ASRock B550M-ITX/AC) for a potential SFF NR200 build and was tearing my hair out as it wasn't posting. Tried different GPU,RAM,CPU,PSU and still couldn't post. Wrote it off as a DOA motherboard and was about to start an RMA to Amazon.de while dreading the shipping costs I would need to pay to ship from Africa. For some reason I was browsing ASRock's website and noted the motherboard only supports Ryzen 3000/5000 CPUs . Why they would not support previous gens (at least Zen+) is beyond me.

Persuaded a friend to swap his 3600 for my 2600 for a couple of months until I can get my own (fingers crossed for a 5600 non-x) and now I finally have my pc working again.

I also have been stuck runnig 2133Mhz on my RAM instead of 3000Mhz because it predates Ryzen (2015 Hynix m-die iirc) and kept giving me blue screens whenever I enabled XMP. I tried Ryzen DRAM Calc before but even its Safe settings would BSOD as well. I was about to bite the bullet and get some 3600CL16 or 3200CL14 but I said what the heck, lets try to tune the RAM one last time. Got BSODs again using Calc timings so as a last resort I upped the voltage to 1.45v. Lo and behold, I could boot to 3000Mhz Safe settings and pased Memtest 1000%. I even went a step further and passed the Fast preset, netting me a change from [2133 15-15-15-36-50] to [3000 14-15-15-32-52]

This got me excited and I went and used Clocktuner for Ryzen, ended up going from 4.1@1.358v to 4.2@1.25 to 4.35@1.35.

After a long while, I can finally say I feel like I joined the Club.

P.S. Thanks @1usmus for your incredible tools.

 

[Mussels]

I Bought a B550 motherboard (ASRock B550M-ITX/AC) for a potential SFF NR200 build and was tearing my hair out as it wasn't posting. Tried different GPU,RAM,CPU,PSU and still couldn't post. Wrote it off as a DOA motherboard and was about to start an RMA to Amazon.de while dreading the shipping costs I would need to pay to ship from Africa. For some reason I was browsing ASRock's website and noted the motherboard only supports Ryzen 3000/5000 CPUs . Why they would not support previous gens (at least Zen+) is beyond me.

Persuaded a friend to swap his 3600 for my 2600 for a couple of months until I can get my own (fingers crossed for a 5600 non-x) and now I finally have my pc working again.

I also have been stuck runnig 2133Mhz on my RAM instead of 3000Mhz because it predates Ryzen (2015 Hynix m-die iirc) and kept giving me blue screens whenever I enabled XMP. I tried Ryzen DRAM Calc before but even its Safe settings would BSOD as well. I was about to bite the bullet and get some 3600CL16 or 3200CL14 but I said what the heck, lets try to tune the RAM one last time. Got BSODs again using Calc timings so as a last resort I upped the voltage to 1.45v. Lo and behold, I could boot to 3000Mhz Safe settings and pased Memtest 1000%. I even went a step further and passed the Fast preset, netting me a change from [2133 15-15-15-36-50] to [3000 14-15-15-32-52]

This got me excited and I went and used Clocktuner for Ryzen, ended up going from 4.1@1.358v to 4.2@1.25 to 4.35@1.35.

After a long while, I can finally say I feel like I joined the Club.

P.S. Thanks @1usmus for your incredible tools.

Wait, you never checked the CPU support before buying?
B550 was always advertised as zen2 and newer, you need B450 if you want 'universal' support

Dont bother with fancy timings on hynix, just turn XMP on and raise SoC to 1.1V (then try 1.15 and 1.2V if it fails) - you should be good for a minimum of 3200C16 even on "bad" ram

 

[Muaadib]

Wait, you never checked the CPU support before buying?
B550 was always advertised as zen2 and newer, you need B450 if you want 'universal' support

Dont bother with fancy timings on hynix, just turn XMP on and raise SoC to 1.1V (then try 1.15 and 1.2V if it fails) - you should be good for a minimum of 3200C16 even on "bad" ram

Yep, silly me thought since my b450 supports all cpus then b550 should be the same.

Thanks for the ram tips, will give them a try tomorrow and report back as it's 1am atm.

 

[8BitZ80]

We may have finally found out what is causing these WHEA errors to show up intermittently on a regular basis. It's an incompatibility with Western Digital hard drives.

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/whea-logger-fatal-hardware-error.279436/page-2

All these months of testing and researching and worrying about RMA's to just find out that unplugging these f'king hard drives would stop the WHEA errors showing up in the logs. Damn.

 

[Mussels]

wait really? thats front page news worthy and explains why some people are swamped and others never get it

 

[8BitZ80]

wait really? thats front page news worthy and explains why some people are swamped and others never get it

Yeah for real! I wonder how many unnecessary RMAs this has caused. It would explain why I've been getting two errors posted at the same time, because I've got two WD drives.

 

[Final_Fighter]

got myself a ryzen 5 5600x on a modded b350 board. everything is working good so far. pretty nice jump from a ryzen 5 2600.

 

[Muaadib]

@Mussels tried SoC at 1.1,1.15, and 1.2v. All had the PC lockup right at POST screen. Went back to 1.45v DRAM and it worked flawlessly.

I think I will just have to live with this, I even get crashes if I bump down the RAM 0.1v less.

 

[Mussels]

@Mussels tried SoC at 1.1,1.15, and 1.2v. All had the PC lockup right at POST screen. Went back to 1.45v DRAM and it worked flawlessly.

I think I will just have to live with this, I even get crashes if I bump down the RAM 0.1v less.

'back to' 1.45v dram? what did you drop the DRAM to?

 

[Final_Fighter]

playing around with pbo settings. have my ppt 88w, tdc 60a, edc 90a, +200mhz. all core stays above 4.65ghz with cinebench. single core score really shines. not hitting over 76c in cinebnech. voltages stay under 1.4v

 

[8BitZ80]

playing around with pbo settings. have my ppt 88w, tdc 60a, edc 90a, +200mhz. all core stays above 4.65ghz with cinebench. single core score really shines. not hitting over 76c in cinebnech. voltages stay under 1.4v

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It's running very well for a 5600X, I must say. Mine scores lower although I only use the Curve Optimizer and have PBO disabled because I prefer low power consumption.

 

[tabascosauz]

It's running very well for a 5600X, I must say. Mine scores lower although I only use the Curve Optimizer and have PBO disabled because I prefer low power consumption.

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Hold up, don't you have to enable PBO advanced to even show the Curve Optimizer on Asus?

 

[8BitZ80]

Hold up, don't you have to enable PBO advanced to even show the Curve Optimizer on Asus?

Good point actually, it might be is on Advanced.

Edit: In the earlier days I had it running on 4.6GHz all cores with PBO but I've forgotten how I did it. Not running it at those speeds now though.

 

[Final_Fighter]

It's running very well for a 5600X, I must say. Mine scores lower although I only use the Curve Optimizer and have PBO disabled because I prefer low power consumption.

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My bios does not seem to have the curve optimizer setting. Might also be because I'm on a modded b350.

 

[8BitZ80]

My bios does not seem to have the curve optimizer setting. Might also be because I'm on a modded b350.

Probably. The curve optimizer doesn't make much of a difference from stock, maybe an extra couple hundred MHz on multi, but it drops the core voltages down a bit as well.