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I disabled icue starting with windows - every time i manually start it, i get the ding/dong and my USB devices refresh (which causes a system stutter and my OTHER brands RGB lighting freezes for a moment)
Corsair released a new update today with no changelog, so you can see if updating helps
sounds exactly like my issue, and since I only have Corsair PSU with power and voltage monitoring I'm using HWiNFO to get the same data ;)
on Corsair forums I read that using internal USB HUB to connect their devices helps, if you connect them directly to mobo you get issues
 

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sounds exactly like my issue, and since I only have Corsair PSU with power and voltage monitoring I'm using HWiNFO to get the same data ;)
on Corsair forums I read that using internal USB HUB to connect their devices helps, if you connect them directly to mobo you get issues
that varies between boards, some can send out enough power, others have connection issues to the hubs. its great!
 
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I got another couple of WHEA errors and it turns out that they are reported by the svchost.exe local service. Unfortunately that information isn't much help because many Windows services use svchost.

These WHEA errors do happen like clockwork though. They always happen about once a week, there's always two posted within a few hours of each other and they always seem to be reported by a local service.

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This is a proud moment for me lol :laugh:

I have been trying to get past the extreme setting for days.. turns out the one voltage setting I didn't play with, I should have played with :nutkick:

I noticed when I was playing with 4 sticks and I bumped the wrong voltage by accident, but I went from being able to run 4x8 @ 1833 to running 1866.. not a huge gain but I ripped out one set to clock the remaining set.. started over and it worked. *pats back*

I should note I have been doing all of my overclocking in the bios :kookoo:

My eyes are burning so I guess its bed time.

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HWINFO has a WHEA logger. I set hwinfo to show the whea errors on the taskbar. There was a period with all the bios' that that error display got a workout but have not had an error in a long while.
 

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This is a proud moment for me lol :laugh:

I have been trying to get past the extreme setting for days.. turns out the one voltage setting I didn't play with, I should have played with :nutkick:

I noticed when I was playing with 4 sticks and I bumped the wrong voltage by accident, but I went from being able to run 4x8 @ 1833 to running 1866.. not a huge gain but I ripped out one set to clock the remaining set.. started over and it worked. *pats back*

I should note I have been doing all of my overclocking in the bios :kookoo:

My eyes are burning so I guess its bed time.

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i love the part where you dont tell us what the magic voltage was

also every single part name is cut off in the image and your system specs are blank

fucken good mystery, i need the scooby gang to solve this one
 

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Nice.. well forget I said anything then.
 

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Nice.. well forget I said anything then.
please dont be offended, i genuinely found it funny as i kept hunting for info and found nothing
 

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please dont be offended, i genuinely found it funny as i kept hunting for info and found nothing
I was a little lol. I thought everyone knew what all that stuff was.. glad it’s not just me lol. I will fix it up tomorrow because it’s cool in here and I don’t want to streak to my desk :D
 
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I checked both of the Ryzen 3 3100 office systems I built for other family members and only one of them had one WHEA-Logger error that was recorded months ago. Both are running Gigabyte B550M-S2H boards and the are running the same bios as the day I installed them. There doesn't seem to be any WHEA issues with those Zen 2 machines, so that's good.

It will take a while to verify they are gone on my 5600X system, but I'm pretty sure they'll disappear now that I've disabled the Diagnostic Policy Service (DPS) Windows service that was posting all of my WHEA errors.
 

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i love the part where you dont tell us what the magic voltage was

also every single part name is cut off in the image and your system specs are blank

fucken good mystery, i need the scooby gang to solve this one
It was VTTDDR I think. If you are referring to the part names in OCCT, I disabled monitoring since I had hwinfo going since everything is available there.

No errors unless I turn volts down.
 
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Anyone having any luck with new bios up ROG CROSSHAIR VIII FORMULA BIOS 3302. Good thing they look good. But I don’t know if I want to try it yet.
 

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Anyone having any luck with new bios up ROG CROSSHAIR VIII FORMULA BIOS 3302. Good thing they look good. But I don’t know if I want to try it yet.
What AGESA aversion is it? I”ll assume it’s probably 1.2.0.01. The USB fix 1.2.0.2 should pop up very soon. The current AGESA seems pretty trouble free
 

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It was VTTDDR I think. If you are referring to the part names in OCCT, I disabled monitoring since I had hwinfo going since everything is available there.

No errors unless I turn volts down.

That's weird. Reducing VTTDDR usually only comes into play above 4400 or so and/or at more extreme voltages, where the usual BIOS auto-rule of VDIMM÷2 won't POST. I can't push my crappy A0 Viper Steels to 4600 with auto VTTDDR.

You sure it wasn't VDDP? Unless your BIOS is doing something wrong out of the box at 4000.
 

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It’s got a few bits, corrects L3 performance,, some Curve Optimzer improvements are the highlights
Yep, i just noticed they now have a beta out now, and thats crazy. They have a big note saying something about warranty..
 
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I'm thinking it's the single-core frequency (high enough clocks alone can account for higher temps too, irregardless of Vcore or power) , in combination with extra heat rising from the GPU, that causes the momentary spikes in temperature. It certainly isn't helped by the thermal density.
So, after extensive testing with all core clocking and PBO this kind of situation has been the strongest argument for all core overclocking. I can set it at 4.5ghz and undervolt down to 1.16v. This gives me consistently cool temps under load with my EK AIO. No ridiculous momentary fluctuations and there is nothing I'm doing that takes advantage of short bursts of a couple hundred mhz higher, especially at the expense of heating up other components in the case.
 
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That's weird. Reducing VTTDDR usually only comes into play above 4400 or so and/or at more extreme voltages, where the usual BIOS auto-rule of VDIMM÷2 won't POST. I can't push my crappy A0 Viper Steels to 4600 with auto VTTDDR.

You sure it wasn't VDDP? Unless your BIOS is doing something wrong out of the box at 4000.
It could have been VDDP.. dam noobs. I'll get it together one day!

To run 4 sticks at 3733 I did have to bump VTTDDR two spots. Not sure why. I am using a beta bios right now, and there are a bunch of boxes missing from hwinfo now.
 

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Yep, i just noticed they now have a beta out now, and thats crazy. They have a big note saying something about warranty..
Well just standard beta boilerplate but there will be at least 1 to 3 more on the upcoming AGESA 1.2.0.2 that should correct the USB issues, a few refinement BOOS and then a 1.2.o.2 final bearing any issue popping up. Then a 1.2.0.2 final. I m an the last current final was1.1.0.0 while stable is bit was basically he first AGESA with full Zen 3 support
 

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So, after extensive test with all core clocking and PBO this kind of situation has been the strongest argument for all core overclocking. I can set it at 4.5ghz and undervolt down to 1.16v. This gives me consistently cool temps under load with my EK AIO. No ridiculous momentary fluctuations and there is nothing I'm doing that takes advantage of short bursts of a couple hundred mhz higher, especially at the expense of heating up other components in the case.

Unfortunately I don't think I can handle the heat output of 12 cores at 4.5. Not that I could do sub 1.2V for 4.5 either, I think. :( Normal PBO did 167W in CPU-Z of all things and I was already up to 80C on this C14S

The single thread temp spikes seem to be a 5000 thing. It's still only MW2019 that gets into the 80-85c range on CCD1 while Tctl is actually 80 max (opposite of 3000 behaviour). But when I take a look at log data over time, CCD1 is mostly hanging out in the 70-77C range, only have a momentary spike every little while.

I can't use Curve Optimizer either, any changes I make just absolutely torpedo single-core performance and I have to juggle the two PBO menus because the one that Curve Optimizer is found in only has dud settings
 
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I have a spare 3900xt and so as it turns out I stuck it into my daughters rig lol. One of these day's I'll downgrade the tuf wifi board's bios so I can stick a 1600x or 1600af into it but till then...

And then I had to disable a CCD cuz she still plays some ancient games... the irony.
 

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So, after extensive testing with all core clocking and PBO this kind of situation has been the strongest argument for all core overclocking. I can set it at 4.5ghz and undervolt down to 1.16v. This gives me consistently cool temps under load with my EK AIO. No ridiculous momentary fluctuations and there is nothing I'm doing that takes advantage of short bursts of a couple hundred mhz higher, especially at the expense of heating up other components in the case.
that is the joy of ryzen, user choice!


As a 165Hz gamer, i'll take that extra 500Mhz of boost becase 10% is 10%
 
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