Intel Core i9-11900K

lemoncarbonate · Mar 31, 2021

night.fox said:
Temperature = Really Hot
Power consumption = Really hungry chip

Performance? ......... meh.............

Should be named Intel Bulldozer Lake FX-11900K

R-T-B · Mar 31, 2021

kapone32 said:
So it's a 9900K with PCIe 4.0 support?

No, it's worse than that, at least in gaming. IPC is better though, leading me to believe firmware issues may be limiting its potential.

W1zzard said:
+1 on that. Never seen such finicky platform from Intel, ever I think

Do you think the gaming performance deficit could be partially rooted in buggy firmware?

Why_Me said:
Plug & play ftw. No having to worry about what RAM to use.

Did you even read the review?

This resembles Ryzen 1 ram-speed wise. A little better, but not much.

metalfiber · Mar 31, 2021

R-T-B said:
No, it's worse than that, at least in gaming. IPC is better though, leading me to believe firmware issues may be limiting it's potential.

With such mixed gaming results in the reviews around the web it has to be firmware.

Deleted member 206429 · Mar 31, 2021

B-Real said:
Really? Here, you can buy RX 570 4GB for $200-215 (= at least NEAR its MSRP) which is faster than the 1650 that is available from $291. Buy it and you can sell it with small loss when mining craze ends.

So instead of spending that money on other parts of the PC build your solution is to buy an overpriced used GPU which is essentially E-waste, use it for over a year, then when GPU prices come down, you then expect your used GPU to only suffer a 'small' price drop. BTW mining is a scapegoat reason why there are GPU shortages.

beedoo said:
This is such a massive stretch - an almost retarded remark!

I have no interest in an integrated GPU, which will ultimately become a completely wasted area of silicon on my chip.

Feel free to throw some numbers out since you dont understand how money works, not everyone wants to spend hundreds of dollars just to make their CPU work during a GPU shortage.

Deleted member 190774 · Mar 31, 2021

vanishs14 said:
Feel free to throw some numbers out since you dont understand how money works, not everyone wants to spend hundreds of dollars just to make their CPU work during a GPU shortage.

You're so right, it's not like this forum - or any other 'enthusiast' forum is full of people (that make out) that need every last FPS from their games. They'll be totally on-board with an iGPU.

Deleted member 206429 · Mar 31, 2021

beedoo said:
You're so right, it's not like this forum - or any other 'enthusiast' forum is full of people (that make out) that need every last FPS from their games. They'll be totally on-board with an iGPU.

I care more about money than E-peen, its a really simple decision.

RandallFlagg · Mar 31, 2021

R-T-B said:
No, it's worse than that, at least in gaming. IPC is better though, leading me to believe firmware issues may be limiting its potential.

Do you think the gaming performance deficit could be partially rooted in buggy firmware?

That's part of it :

Houston, we have BIOS Problems: The Rocket Lake [P]review

With the promise of up to 19% increased IPC, many Intel users – including myself – were excited to see what Rocket Lake might bring. Did Intel deliver? Keep reading.

adoredtv.com

R-T-B said:
Did you even read the review?

This resembles Ryzen 1 ram-speed wise. A little better, but not much.

Memory setup is critical. Computerbase.de talks about this, but the 11900K they had maxed out a 3733 Gear 1. There was about a 4% FPS difference in games with DDR4-2933 Gear 1 vs DDR4-3200 Gear 2.

So I think a lot of these reviews are giving different results due to a lack of experience of the reviewers with the new chips, how to configure their setups for them, and BIOS version issues. Just look at that CS:GO chart. That's over a 40% difference in fps from the BIOS, they concluded that something in the BIOS was greatly affecting memory latency.

Deleted member 190774 · Mar 31, 2021

vanishs14 said:
I care more about money than E-peen, its a really simple decision.

Well at least we have something in common, in that I don't care about E-peen either. Money is not such an issue these days.

RandallFlagg · Mar 31, 2021

Here's another example of the effect of gear 1 vs gear 2 on fps :

Hossein Almet · Mar 31, 2021

What can you say, the 11900K was sold out last week here in OZ?

95Viper · Mar 31, 2021

Stay on-topic!
If needed report... do not do a retaliatory post, as, all that does is make the thread a mess.
Stop insulting other members.
Discuss the topic not each other.

Thank You and Have a Good Day

Rahmat Sofyan · Mar 31, 2021

just like a rocket, hot and power hungry ...

what a mess intel made

ValenOne · Mar 31, 2021

night.fox said:
Temperature = Really Hot
Power consumption = Really hungry chip

Performance? ......... meh.............

It has a rocket-like temperature.

Caring1 · Mar 31, 2021

Hossein Almet said:
What can you say, the 11900K was sold out last week here in OZ?

It's not even released in Australia yet is it?
I see pre orders.

Platinum certified Husky · Mar 31, 2021

OOOOOOOF. Just thinking about upgrading to 11th gen for PCIE 4.0 support, I even bought mid-high end z490 board for it.

FML¯\_(ツ)_/¯

R0H1T · Mar 31, 2021

metalfiber said:
With such mixed gaming results in the reviews around the web it has to be firmware.

Why? You do realize this is Intel's first major uarch overhaul on the desktop since 2015 (2016?) & both Ian, Steves (HBU & GN) said that the BIOS has been out for these things, in the board makers' hands, for quite a while. In fact the last patch did increase performance as evidenced at AT. It's simply a case of Intel pushing this chip to its limits, heck if it wasn't for MCE & unlocked power limits you can bet your bottom dollar that it'd be nowhere close to where it is today. Buggy firmware is a result of a (near) complete overhaul from what we've seen rehashed over & over again since Skylake!

R-T-B · Mar 31, 2021

R0H1T said:
Why? You do realize this is Intel's first major uarch overhaul on the desktop since 2015 (2016?) & both Ian, Steves (HBU & GN) said that the BIOS has been out for these things, in the board makers' hands, for quite a while. In fact the last patch did increase performance as evidenced at AT. It's simply a case of Intel pushing this chip to its limits, heck if it wasn't for MCE & unlocked power limits you can bet your bottom dollar that it'd be nowhere close to where it is today. Buggy firmware is a result of a (near) complete overhaul from what we've seen rehashed over & over again since Skylake!

I'm really not seeing anything refuting the statement you are seemingly addressing. The bottom line is it takes a few releases to fix a buggy bios at this level.

I'm fairly confident the performance deficit in gaming vs aparent IPC is firmware related too but time will show.

pandemonium · Mar 31, 2021

vanishs14 said:
Best thing about Intel CPUs is you dont need a dGPU to make them work nor only limit your selection to APUs from AMD.

If youre building a computer right now and you dont already have a GPU then there is zero value in any AMD CPU currently.

Perfectly valid reason to justify spending so much money on a CPU!

GoldenX · Mar 31, 2021

vanishs14 said:
Best thing about Intel CPUs is you dont need a dGPU to make them work nor only limit your selection to APUs from AMD.

If youre building a computer right now and you dont already have a GPU then there is zero value in any AMD CPU currently.

lol, best excuse so far.

Vya Domus · Mar 31, 2021

R-T-B said:
IPC is better though, leading me to believe firmware issues may be limiting its potential.

Only thing I can imagine to impact performance coming from the firmware is the boost algorithm but that seems to work just fine. I think Sunny Cove just wasn't that great.

R-T-B · Mar 31, 2021

Vya Domus said:
Only thing I can imagine to impact performance coming from the firmware is the boost algorithm but that seems to work just fine. I think Sunny Cove just wasn't that great.

There's a lot more than the boost algorithm at play there.

Did we already forget when Skylake lost gaming performance vs Haswell because the firmware was setting the FCLK too low?

Many things can happen there.

Hossein Almet · Mar 31, 2021

Caring1 said:
It's not even released in Australia yet is it?
I see pre orders.

Here...

Arcdar · Mar 31, 2021

thanks for this "excessive" piece of art - as always very well written and it's obvious how much work you actually put into all your reviews

(in addition to your "side tasks" and moving to the new test platform and everything

)

DonKnotts · Mar 31, 2021

B-Real said:
Really? Here, you can buy RX 570 4GB for $200-215 (= at least NEAR its MSRP) which is faster than the 1650 that is available from $291. Buy it and you can sell it with small loss when mining craze ends.

Well you're lucky.

Deleted member 205776 · Mar 31, 2021

Took 5 pages of fanboyism for a moderator to step in. Good God. Can we reduce that to 1 next time?

Processor	Ryzen 5700X
Motherboard	Gigabyte AX-370 Gaming 5, BIOS F51h
Cooling	MSI Core Frozr L
Memory	32GB 3200MHz CL16
Video Card(s)	MSI GTX 1080 Ti Trio
Storage	Crucial MX300 525GB + Samsung 970 Evo 1TB + 3TB 7.2k + 4TB 5.4k
Display(s)	LG 34UC99 3440x1440 75Hz + LG 24MP88HM
Case	Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX TG Galaxy Silver
Audio Device(s)	Edifier XM6PF 2.1
Power Supply	EVGA Supernova 750 G3
Mouse	Steelseries Rival 3
Keyboard	Razer Blackwidow Lite Stormtrooper Edition

System Name	Pioneer
Processor	Ryzen R9 9950X
Motherboard	GIGABYTE Aorus Elite X670 AX
Cooling	Noctua NH-D15 + A whole lotta Sunon and Corsair Maglev blower fans...
Memory	64GB (4x 16GB) G.Skill Flare X5 @ DDR5-6000 CL30
Video Card(s)	XFX RX 7900 XTX Speedster Merc 310
Storage	Intel 905p Optane 960GB boot, +2x Crucial P5 Plus 2TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSDs
Display(s)	55" LG 55" B9 OLED 4K Display
Case	Thermaltake Core X31
Audio Device(s)	TOSLINK->Schiit Modi MB->Asgard 2 DAC Amp->AKG Pro K712 Headphones or HDMI->B9 OLED
Power Supply	FSP Hydro Ti Pro 850W
Mouse	Logitech G305 Lightspeed Wireless
Keyboard	WASD Code v3 with Cherry Green keyswitches + PBT DS keycaps
Software	Gentoo Linux x64 / Windows 11 Enterprise IoT 2024

Processor	Intel i9 11900K
Motherboard	Z590 MSI ACE
Cooling	Corsair H80i v2
Memory	Ballistix Elite 4000 32GB 18-19-19-39
Video Card(s)	EVGA 3090 XC3 ULTRA HYBRID
Storage	2x Seagate Barracuda 120 SSD 1 TB, XPG SX8200 PRO 1 TB
Display(s)	Acer Predator Z321QU
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C
Power Supply	Asus ROG Strix 1000W

System Name	Legion
Processor	i7-12700KF
Motherboard	Asus Z690-Plus TUF Gaming WiFi D5
Cooling	Arctic Liquid Freezer 2 240mm AIO
Memory	PNY MAKO DDR5-6000 C36-36-36-76
Video Card(s)	PowerColor Hellhound 6700 XT 12GB
Storage	WD SN770 512GB m.2, Samsung 980 Pro m.2 2TB
Display(s)	Acer K272HUL 1440p / 34" MSI MAG341CQ 3440x1440
Case	Montech Air X
Power Supply	Corsair CX750M
Mouse	Logitech MX Anywhere 25
Keyboard	Logitech MX Keys
Software	Lots

System Name	Legion
Processor	i7-12700KF
Motherboard	Asus Z690-Plus TUF Gaming WiFi D5
Cooling	Arctic Liquid Freezer 2 240mm AIO
Memory	PNY MAKO DDR5-6000 C36-36-36-76
Video Card(s)	PowerColor Hellhound 6700 XT 12GB
Storage	WD SN770 512GB m.2, Samsung 980 Pro m.2 2TB
Display(s)	Acer K272HUL 1440p / 34" MSI MAG341CQ 3440x1440
Case	Montech Air X
Power Supply	Corsair CX750M
Mouse	Logitech MX Anywhere 25
Keyboard	Logitech MX Keys
Software	Lots

Intel Core i9-11900K

lemoncarbonate

R-T-B

metalfiber

Deleted member 206429

Guest

Deleted member 190774

Guest

Deleted member 206429

Guest

RandallFlagg

Houston, we have BIOS Problems: The Rocket Lake [P]review

Deleted member 190774

Guest

RandallFlagg

Hossein Almet

95Viper

Super Moderator

Rahmat Sofyan

ValenOne

Caring1

Platinum certified Husky

R0H1T

R-T-B

pandemonium

GoldenX

Vya Domus

R-T-B

Hossein Almet

Arcdar

DonKnotts

Attachments

Deleted member 205776

Guest

Processor	5950X
Motherboard	Dark Hero
Cooling	Custom Loop
Memory	Crucial Ballistix 3600MHz CL16
Video Card(s)	Gigabyte RTX 3080 Vision
Storage	980 Pro 500GB, 970 Evo Plus 500GB, Crucial MX500 2TB, Crucial MX500 2TB, Samsung 850 Evo 500GB
Display(s)	Gigabyte G34WQC
Case	Cooler Master C700M
Audio Device(s)	Bose
Power Supply	AX850
Mouse	Razer DeathAdder Chroma
Keyboard	MSI GK80
Software	W10 Pro
Benchmark Scores	CPU-Z Single-Thread: 688 Multi-Thread: 11940

System Name	My Best Friend...
Processor	Qualcomm Snapdragon 650
Motherboard	Made By Xiaomi
Cooling	Air and My Hands :)
Memory	3GB LPDDR3
Video Card(s)	Adreno 510
Storage	Sandisk 32GB SDHC Class 10
Display(s)	5.5" 1080p IPS BOE
Case	Made By Xiaomi
Audio Device(s)	Snapdragon ?
Power Supply	2A Adapter
Mouse	On Screen
Keyboard	On Screen
Software	Android 6.0.1
Benchmark Scores	90339

System Name	Eula
Processor	AMD Ryzen 9 7900X PBO
Motherboard	ASUS TUF Gaming X670E Plus Wifi
Cooling	Corsair H150i Elite LCD XT White
Memory	Trident Z5 Neo RGB DDR5-6000 64GB (4x16GB F5-6000J3038F16GX2-TZ5NR) EXPO II, OCCT Tested
Video Card(s)	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4080 GAMING OC
Storage	Corsair MP600 XT NVMe 2TB, Samsung 980 Pro NVMe 2TB, Toshiba N300 10TB HDD, Seagate Ironwolf 4T HDD
Display(s)	Acer Predator X32FP 32in 160Hz 4K FreeSync/GSync DP, LG 32UL950 32in 4K HDR FreeSync/G-Sync DP
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P500A D-RGB White
Audio Device(s)	Creative Sound Blaster Z
Power Supply	Corsair HX1000 Platinum 1000W
Mouse	SteelSeries Prime Pro Gaming Mouse
Keyboard	SteelSeries Apex 5
Software	MS Windows 11 Pro

System Name	H7 Flow 2024
Processor	AMD 5800X3D
Motherboard	Asus X570 Tough Gaming
Cooling	Custom liquid
Memory	32 GB DDR4
Video Card(s)	Intel ARC A750
Storage	Crucial P5 Plus 2TB.
Display(s)	AOC 24" Freesync 1m.s. 75Hz
Mouse	Lenovo
Keyboard	Eweadn Mechanical
Software	W11 Pro 64 bit

Processor	Ryzen 5 1600 3.8GHz@1.331V
Motherboard	ASUS Strix B350-F
Cooling	Noctua NH-D15
Memory	Kingston HyperX Fury DDR4 16G*2 3000MHz CL16 @1.35V
Video Card(s)	Msi RTX 2070 Super Gaming Z Trio
Storage	WD Blue 500G SSD1 WD Black 2TB1
Display(s)	ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q
Case	Lian Li O11D XL
Audio Device(s)	Edifier C3X
Power Supply	Corsair RM750x
Mouse	logitech G102 with modded micro switchs
Benchmark Scores	Time Spy 9943

Processor	5820k
Motherboard	ASUS Sabertooth X99
Cooling	Swiftech H220-X
Memory	32GB Mushkin 2400Mhz
Video Card(s)	GTX 1080, GTX 970
Storage	Intel 950 400GB OS, Samsung 860EVO 2TB (x2) striped gaming
Display(s)	ASUS PB278Q
Case	Lian Li PC-B16B
Power Supply	SeaSonic SS-760XP2
Mouse	Steelseries Ikari Laser
Keyboard	Das Keyboard X40

System Name	Ciel / Akane
Processor	AMD Ryzen R5 5600X / Intel Core i3 12100F
Motherboard	Asus Tuf Gaming B550 Plus / Biostar H610MHP
Cooling	ID-Cooling 224-XT Basic / Stock
Memory	2x 16GB Kingston Fury 3600MHz / 2x 8GB Patriot 3200MHz
Video Card(s)	Gainward Ghost RTX 3060 Ti / Dell GTX 1660 SUPER
Storage	NVMe Kingston KC3000 2TB + NVMe Toshiba KBG40ZNT256G + HDD WD 4TB / NVMe WD Blue SN550 512GB
Display(s)	AOC Q27G3XMN / Samsung S22F350
Case	Cougar MX410 Mesh-G / Generic
Audio Device(s)	Kingston HyperX Cloud Stinger Core 7.1 Wireless PC
Power Supply	Aerocool KCAS-500W / Gigabyte P450B
Mouse	EVGA X15 / Logitech G203
Keyboard	VSG Alnilam / Dell
Software	Windows 11

System Name	Good enough
Processor	AMD Ryzen R9 7900 - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora Edge
Motherboard	ASRock B650 Pro RS
Cooling	2x 360mm NexXxoS ST30 X-Flow, 1x 360mm NexXxoS ST30, 1x 240mm NexXxoS ST30
Memory	32GB - FURY Beast RGB 5600 Mhz
Video Card(s)	Sapphire RX 7900 XT - Alphacool Eisblock Aurora
Storage	1x Kingston KC3000 1TB 1x Kingston A2000 1TB, 1x Samsung 850 EVO 250GB , 1x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB
Display(s)	LG UltraGear 32GN650-B + 4K Samsung TV
Case	Phanteks NV7
Power Supply	GPS-750C