AMD Ryzen 9 5950X

[lexluthermiester]

• High price
• Multi-CCD design costs some performance
• Slightly limited by power/TDP
• CPU cooler not included
• No integrated graphics

I can't agree with 3 of these 5 points

$800 is not a bad price, especially when compared to Intel offerings of 16core parts which run at far slower clock speeds;

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No one who buys this CPU is going to use or expect a heatsink. Third party cooling is a given for a product like this.

No one is going to expect an IGP for a product like this, especially when space is a premium on the die area. While an IGP could be useful, most buyers will not care or ever use an IGP.

GN and Tech Jesus was saying

Um, GN(GamerzNexus) IS Tech Jesus. Tech Jesus is Steves tongue-in-cheek nick name. Literally the same person. Just throwing it out there...

 

[W1zzard]

I can't agree with 3 of these 5 points

Excellent, all i want is that you think About all of them and come to your own conclusions

 

[lexluthermiester]

Excellent, all i want is that you think About all of them and come to your own conclusions

Ah, I see what you did there.

 

[W1zzard]

Ah, I see what you did there.

No I'm serious, really. Who am I to decide what you should care about when spending your own money?

 

[Calmmo]

You should make a recommendation calculator where ones social status, income, average per month expenses and use case can be input.
"Objective" reviews amrite?

 

[W1zzard]

You should make a recommendation calculator where ones social status, income, average per month expenses and use case can be input.
"Objective" reviews amrite?

I think none of those apply to what hardware you buy.

I know objectively "poor" people who bought a RTX 2080 Ti, at full price, because it was the biggest achievement for them in their life, and because it brought them more happiness than anything else

or just

t.t

 

[lexluthermiester]

No I'm serious, really. Who am I to decide what you should care about when spending your own money?

I agree. When I said the above comment I was implying that you were making your end remarks, as you always do, to invoke the audience to think for themselves.

 

[Thuban]

5950x consumes roughly the same watts as 5900x, but runs even cooler than 5800x. What gives?

 

[Deleted member 205776]

5950x consumes roughly the same watts as 5900x, but runs even cooler than 5800x. What gives?

5800x has all 8 core complexes combined on a single CCD. 5900x and 5950x both have two CCDs. Also AMD's claims that high thermals are by design especially for that CPU.

 

[Thuban]

5800x has all 8 core complexes combined on a single CCD. 5900x and 5950x both have two CCDs. Also AMD's claims that high thermals are by design especially for that CPU.

Well, looking at the temperatures and the power draw, I only like two AMD cpus, 5600x and 5950x. Thanks Alexa. Still surprised that two CCDs run way cooler as a total package, though.

 

[Tomgang]

Well, looking at the temperatures and the power draw, I only like two AMD cpus, 5600x and 5950x. Thanks Alexa. Still surprised that two CCDs run way cooler as a total package, though.

It's because of the maximum allowed wattage for the cpu to draw is the same for 5800X, 5900X and 5950X. So the fewer cores there is to spread the load, the hotter each core will get. Also 5950X has better binned Chiplets that can run the same clocks or higher at lower voltage and 5600X has lower max allowed power draw which give less hot cores. All throw at full load 5950X runs at lower clocks as well than 5800X, that as well help to lower temp.

So basically, 5800X draws the same power as the 12 and 16 core with a worse binned Chiplet. Means this chip runs in a combination of higher voltage than 5950X and the same power draw allowed on fewer cores = a hotter running cpu than 5950X. Hope this helps to understand why 5800X runs the hottest of all the CPU's.

 

[kapone32]

I have reserved a 5950X for $1299 (basically $1000 US) but not sure if it's worth it.

 

[Thuban]

@Tomgang

Makes a lot of sense, thanks for elaborating. I prefer the 5950x approach and design. Going to postpone my upgrade from 4790k a bit (need a GPU as well).

@kapone32

I can buy it off you.

 

[kapone32]

@Tomgang

Makes a lot of sense, thanks for elaborating. I prefer the 5950x approach and design. Going to postpone my upgrade from 4790k a bit (need a GPU as well).

@kapone32

I can buy it off you.

PM me if you are really interested.

 

[Tomgang]

@Tomgang

Makes a lot of sense, thanks for elaborating. I prefer the 5950x approach and design. Going to postpone my upgrade from 4790k a bit (need a GPU as well).

@kapone32

I can buy it off you.

Yeah 5950X is an interesting cpu. I am myself waiting for one becomes available to my own build. I building a 2 in 1 system. All ready just got a Ryzen 5 5600X, now trying to get a 5950X with out paying a scalper or a greedy store because they are the only ones that have one in stock.

 

[Chrispy_]

Yeah 5950X is an interesting cpu. I am myself waiting for one becomes available to my own build. I building a 2 in 1 system. All ready just got a Ryzen 5 5600X, now trying to get a 5950X with out paying a scalper or a greedy store because they are the only ones that have one in stock.

Built my first stack of 5950X render nodes last month. They're fast but they're 50% more expensive than the 3950X and definitely nowhere close to 50% faster. Render times are down by about 10-15% but it's not such a big jump that it makes any sense whatsoever to replace and ebay the existing 3950X cpus (which are a 5-minute, drop-in upgrade). I think a big part of why the 5900X and 5950X are underwhelming is because the unified cache/CCX makes a massive improvement to the 5600X and 5800X over their predecessors but the 5900X and 5950X still have to deal with the performance penalties of splitting work over two CCDs via infinity fabric. Sure, the CCX doubling per chiplet helps, but it's not the same improvement scaling as the 5600X and 5800X because to do that you'd need to make a massive 16C monolithic die rather than use chiplets.

I guess if you need the best AM4 and can't make the jump to threadripper, it has a valid place but both the 3950X (current pricing) and the 5900X make a mockery of it when it comes to performance/$

 

[Tomgang]

Built my first stack of 5950X render nodes last month. They're fast but they're 50% more expensive than the 3950X and definitely nowhere close to 50% faster. Render times are down by about 10-15% but it's not such a big jump that it makes any sense whatsoever to replace and ebay the existing 3950X cpus (which are a 5-minute, drop-in upgrade). I think a big part of why the 5900X and 5950X are underwhelming is because the unified cache/CCX makes a massive improvement to the 5600X and 5800X over their predecessors but the 5900X and 5950X still have to deal with the performance penalties of splitting work over two CCDs via infinity fabric. Sure, the CCX doubling per chiplet helps, but it's not the same improvement scaling as the 5600X and 5800X because to do that you'd need to make a massive 16C monolithic die rather than use chiplets.

I guess if you need the best AM4 and can't make the jump to threadripper, it has a valid place but both the 3950X (current pricing) and the 5900X make a mockery of it when it comes to performance/$

That is was 5600X and 5950X i wanted, was deside all ready before reviews came out as intel has nothing to compete with. These two cpu will replace a I7 980X, so they will be major upgrade no matter what for me. I go after 5950X over 3950X because i have my hardware for years and 5950X still has the best gaming performance besides it brute compute power.

Also i want to treat my self to something good after this past year with covid-19 hell.