Maps, science, data & statistics tracking of COVID-19

[Space Lynx]

Not entirely true, it can also depend at what age you became obese, it's far too complicated for that, if someone becomes obese in their 50's it is highly likely that if they die because of it or as a compounded effect from it it could be much quicker, example ...... men in their 40's and 50's risk of coronary heart disease increases significantly but with the advent of modern preventative medicines can be curtailed significantly (statins etc), however heart disease, apart from genetic vulnerability usually requires a secondary source (for want of a better term), the most common one being obesity, followed by others such as high blood pressure (often caused by obesity) or smoking etc.

It's not really a coincidence that Covid preys on the obese and heart/respiratory failure is a fairly common side effect of severe Covid infection.

I'm getting the pfizer vaccine tomorrow. Very excited. Hopefully in 3 weeks I get my second shot, and then 1 week after that I am safe... at least for quite some time. Will be refreshing not having to worry about it anymore for awhile (still going to wear mask everywhere, probably will wear mask everywhere in public places for life after this - not just cause of covid, but also flu, bugs in general) I mean think about it... no one ever talks to each other in a grocery store anyway, so why bother not wearing it.

 

[HTC]

I'm getting the pfizer vaccine tomorrow. Very excited. Hopefully in 3 weeks I get my second shot, and then 1 week after that I am safe... at least for quite some time. Will be refreshing not having to worry about it anymore for awhile (still going to wear mask everywhere, probably will wear mask everywhere in public places for life after this - not just cause of covid, but also flu, bugs in general) I mean think about it... no one ever talks to each other in a grocery store anyway, so why bother not wearing it.

No ...

Remember that the Pfizer vaccine has a 95% efficacy rate, which means 1 out of every 20 people still get the virus DESPITE the vaccine. Since being one of those 20 is basically a "bad" lottery, better to err on the side of caution and CONTINUE to take whatever precautions you have been taking, for @ LEAST a few months longer. This goes for ANY of the vaccines.

My parents took their 1st dose last Wednesday and are supposed to take their 2nd in July (so long after 1st dose????), and i've been giving them the EXACT SAME advice.

 

[Space Lynx]

No ...

Remember that the Pfizer vaccine has a 95% efficacy rate, which means 1 out of every 20 people still get the virus DESPITE the vaccine. Since being one of those 20 is basically a "bad" lottery, better to err on the side of caution and CONTINUE to take whatever precautions you have been taking, for @ LEAST a few months longer. This goes for ANY of the vaccines.

My parents took their 1st dose last Wednesday and are supposed to take their 2nd in July (so long after 1st dose????), and i've been giving them the EXACT SAME advice.

its still 100% prevented death and 100% prevented hospitalization for pfizer. and i just said i intend to wear masks in all public places....

 

[ThrashZone]

I'm getting the pfizer vaccine tomorrow. Very excited. Hopefully in 3 weeks I get my second shot, and then 1 week after that I am safe... at least for quite some time. Will be refreshing not having to worry about it anymore for awhile (still going to wear mask everywhere, probably will wear mask everywhere in public places for life after this - not just cause of covid, but also flu, bugs in general) I mean think about it... no one ever talks to each other in a grocery store anyway, so why bother not wearing it.

Hi,
Thought it was no longer than 10 days after the first shot you must have the second.

 

[R-T-B]

Hi,
Thought it was no longer than 10 days after the first shot you must have the second.

For Moderna at least it's 28 days. No idea on pfizer, but I think 10 days sounds a bit fast.

 

[rtwjunkie]

Hi,
Thought it was no longer than 10 days after the first shot you must have the second.

For Moderna at least it's 28 days. No idea on pfizer, but I think 10 days sounds a bit fast.

The Pfizer-BioNTech is 21 days between 1st and 2nd. All my scheduling options for both vaccines were 21 days, and they confirmed at the time of the 1st one.

 

[64K]

What interests me more @64K why do you JnJ is worst vaccine? do you have numbers on it with the variants compared to AZ?

Sorry. I missed your question before. I don't always get my alerts for some reason.

I was just basing it on effectiveness at preventing catching Covid 19

 

[Space Lynx]

Sorry. I missed your question before. I don't always get my alerts for some reason.

I was just basing it on effectiveness at preventing catching Covid 19

agreed, after more research (you can end up in hospital often with jnj still) and with pfizer its still 100% no hospital... so I am doing pfizer. tomorrow actually

 

[dragontamer5788]

Hopefully in 3 weeks I get my second shot, and then 1 week after that I am safe

2 weeks after second shot is the point at which the studies were done.

But supposedly, protection starts up ~2-weeks after your first shot. Its not an "on/off" switch, its your body slowly getting used to the vaccine and building its protection over those multiple weeks. So starting at ~2-weeks after 1st shot you're beginning to have COVID19 protections, then in the weeks that follow (week 3, 4, 5, 6), your body gets stronger and stronger.

Lots and lots of people are still getting COVID19 in the first week or two after a vaccine. Its called a "breakout case". We also now have enough data that people are still getting COVID19 (and dying/getting hospitalized) even after getting fully vaccinated (5 to 6 weeks after 1st shot, with 2nd shot followup). But this number is in the "10s-per-million" (or 0.001% probability) region. And that's mostly immunocompromised invidivudals: their body isn't strong enough to build resistance anymore, even with vaccine assistance.

its still 100% prevented death and 100% prevented hospitalization for pfizer. and i just said i intend to wear masks in all public places....

100% of phase 3 tests (30,000 people tested). Which was too small to capture the difference between 99% and 100%. Now with millions of people getting the vaccine, we know how far into 99.99+% we are actually getting.

Nothing is ever certain in life or science. But going well above 99.99% is about as good as we can get.

 

[Space Lynx]

2 weeks after second shot is the point at which the studies were done.

pretty sure moderna was two weeks, and pfizer was one week after second shot for the 100% marker. and yeah that marker is 99% now, but ill take that over nothing at all

 

[HTC]

Here are Portugal's updated numbers this week.



The pics are, in order, last day updated numbers and every day since then until yesterday's numbers (click for full picture), and the below numbers are current totals, week totals and daily averaged this week:

- 25387 active cases --- 573 less --- 82 less per day
- 788669 recovered --- 4051 more --- 579 more per day
- 16945 fatalities --- 29 more --- 4 more per day
- 831001 confirmed infected --- 3507 more --- 501 more per day

- 9737167 tests taken --- 371526 more --- 41281 more per day but was last updated April 16th and it includes antigen tests as well
- 2586728 vaccinated --- 464730 more --- last updated today but that corresponds to 1933854 1st doses + 652874 2nd doses
- 428 hospitalized --- 38 less --- 5 less per day
- 109 in ICU --- 4 less --- 1 less per day

The main report wasn't published on the weekend, so i had to use the situation report instead.

Daily fatalities continue to drop, albeit slightly, and the week average has dropped below 10 for the 3rd consecutive week. New cases dropped noticeably and R number dropped from 1.02 to 1.0 on average. Vaccinations ramped up significantly but only 1st doses, with roughly one out of every nine vaccinations this week being 2nd dose.

On a more personal note, my parents got their 1st dose last Wednesday: they are supposed to get the 2nd dose in July ...

 

[R-T-B]

Getting my second dose of Moderna this wednesday, FWIW. Hope it doesn't make me feel punk at all, because that's when my new 3070 arrives lol.

 

[Space Lynx]

Getting my second dose of Moderna this wednesday, FWIW. Hope it doesn't make me feel punk at all, because that's when my new 3070 arrives lol.

It just varies person to person, my mom's second Moderna shot was horrible experience. She was in brutal pain. My Dad's second Moderna shot, he had a brief fever for a few hours and little arm pain but was better the next day.

Hope it goes well for you! Congrats on the 3070.

 

[R-T-B]

It just varies person to person, my mom's second Moderna shot was horrible experience. She was in brutal pain. My Dad's second Moderna shot, he had a brief fever for a few hours and little arm pain but was better the next day.

Hope it goes well for you! Congrats on the 3070.

Yeah my mom and dads are like mirrors of your experience but inverted as far as dad having it worse, mom got off easy.

We'll see, thanks!

 

[Space Lynx]

FDA inspectors find "brown residue" and other violations in plant making Johnson & Johnson vaccine

Security footage showed peeling paint and workers carrying open bags of medical waste.

www.cbsnews.com

RIP glad I trusted my instincts and went with Pfizer over JnJ awhile back... this is why when people tell you they are all safe... you should take it with a grain of salt, because those people aren't personally inspecting the factories and every single inch of development process. this is why philosophy needs to be taught again. Socrates = Question Everything.

 

[dragontamer5788]

FDA inspectors find "brown residue" and other violations in plant making Johnson & Johnson vaccine

Security footage showed peeling paint and workers carrying open bags of medical waste.

www.cbsnews.com

RIP glad I trusted my instincts and went with Pfizer over JnJ awhile back... this is why when people tell you they are all safe... you should take it with a grain of salt, because those people aren't personally inspecting the factories and every single inch of development process. this is why philosophy needs to be taught again. Socrates = Question Everything.

Nothing made at the factory for J&J has been distributed, the FDA noted. The nearly 8 million doses of J&J vaccine given in the U.S. came from Europe.

While this is a black eye for my locality (Baltimore is down the road from me), it has nothing to do with safety. The main issue is that the Baltimore plant was supposed to deliver 400-million vaccines (both AZ and J&J). That's 400-million doses that are now in limbo because of these plant violations.

If anything: it shows that the FDA / safety inspections are working. A bit of an embarrassment to the plant and maybe Baltimore as well. Its a big issue for any country who was planning on getting AZ or J&J vaccines, since we've basically lost hundreds-of-millions of factory capacity.

The Baltimore factory halted all production late last week at the request of the FDA. The agency hasn't given emergency approval to the factory, which is needed before any vaccine material made there can be distributed.

Factory is halted. No emergency approval at all. No doses to be distributed anywhere. Its shut down, so no safety issues from the plant can possibly come about.

 

[Space Lynx]

is there any news if the Moderna vaccine is robust against the south african variant yet? it worries me that moderna seems to be silent on this still... Pfizer seems to be clear cut that is its good against the variants, just not as good as the original. which is good enough for me.

sound good? lol

 

[dragontamer5788]

is there any news if the Moderna vaccine is robust against the south african variant yet? it worries me that moderna seems to be silent on this still... Pfizer seems to be clear cut that is its good against the variants, just not as good as the original. which is good enough for me.

sound good? lol

Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine Retains Neutralizing Activity Against Emerging Variants First Identified in the U.K. and the Republic of South Africa | Moderna, Inc.

Out of an abundance of caution, Moderna launches clinical program to boost immunity to emerging variants Manuscript posted to preprint server; company to host conference call once manuscript is available CAMBRIDGE, Mass. --(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 25, 2021-- Moderna Inc .

investors.modernatx.com

B.1.351 is South Africa. The study behind this press-report is a few months old. Both mRNA vaccines seem effective against all known variants at that time. I've seen follow ups on P.1 (Brazil variant). So they're "effective", but "not as effective", because the virus has slightly mutated.

These tests are faster lab tests. They grab the blood of some vaccinated individuals, and drop the virus into their blood and see how the blood reacts (This study was on antibodies, one of the many defense mechanisms in our blood). Its not a full test (like Phase 3) where a proper efficacy % can be determined. What is determined is that a vaccinated individual's blood (or at least, the antibodies in the blood) identifies the threat and attacks the virus.

TL;DR: Antibodies continue to work in that study. There are also T-cells, Killer-T cells, Neutrophils, and other stuff in our blood's defense system (and those "other stuff" were not tested in this particular study). Needless to say, our bodies are very complex, and a study can only look at one or two elements of our bodies at a time. A complete "challenge study" would be best (aka: inject the virus into a human), but those trials take a long time to conduct and have somewhat questionable morality.

 

[dragontamer5788]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/04/23/cdc-recommends-covid-vaccine-pregnant-women/

Pregnant women confused by conflicting recommendations regarding coronavirus vaccination over the past few months now have clear guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention: Get the shots.

At a White House briefing on the coronavirus Friday, CDC Director Rochelle Walensky said that vaccination surveillance systems showed “no safety concerns” for more than 35,000 women in their third trimester or for their babies.

The Phase 3 trials last year did NOT have pregnant women as part of the trials. Today, it sounds like the CDC has finished their study on 35,000 pregnant women, and have concluded that the vaccines are safe for them.

Next step: children (studies are still ongoing, but it is expected that the studies will be completed before the new school year).

 

[Splinterdog]

Most of the vaccines available in Argentina, where I live, are the Sputnik V from Russia, so when I finally receive it, which may be a few more weeks, don't be surprised if I start posting in Cyrillic.

 

[dragontamer5788]

Wow. Lots and lots of vaccine news today.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/04/23/johnson-and-johnson-vaccine-blood-clots/

CDC advisory board recommends that J&J vaccines should resume with a warning about rare blood clots. IIRC, Its technically the FDA's job to resume the distribution of J&J, but they're expected to follow the CDC's recommendation soon (maybe as early as the weekend). (EDIT: The article suggests the CDC Director has the final say, which... wasn't what I expected. I'll have to double-check the org charts again...)

There was an initial concern that people with the condition might be treated with the anticoagulant heparin, which can worsen it. One reason for the pause was to alert health officials to use similar non-heparin drugs and intravenous immunoglobulin.

The main benefit from this whole "pause" seems to be debate and discussion around this "heparin" treatment... or to prevent heparin more precisely. Blood clots are normally treated with heparin, but that drug would worsen these weird J&J blood clots. As long as people are aware of these rare blood clots, then we should be able to treat those rare cases correctly.

 

[KLiKzg]

Most of the vaccines available in Argentina, where I live, are the Sputnik V from Russia, so when I finally receive it, which may be a few more weeks, don't be surprised if I start posting in Cyrillic.

 

[HTC]

Here are Portugal's updated numbers this week.



The pics are, in order, last day updated numbers and every day since then until yesterday's numbers (click for full picture), and the below numbers are current totals, week totals and daily averaged this week:

- 24792 active cases --- 595 less --- 85 less per day
- 792685 recovered --- 4016 more --- 574 more per day
- 16965 fatalities --- 20 more --- 3 more per day
- 834442 confirmed infected --- 3441 more --- 492 more per day

- 10287080 tests taken --- 549913 more --- 68739 more per day but was last updated April 24th and it includes antigen tests as well
- 2913895 vaccinated --- 327167 more --- last updated today but that corresponds to 2125721 1st doses + 788174 2nd doses
- 348 hospitalized --- 80 less --- 11 less per day
- 98 in ICU --- 11 less --- 2 less per day

The main report wasn't published on several days, so i had to use the situation report instead.

Daily fatalities continue to drop, albeit slightly, and the week average has dropped below 10 for the 4th consecutive week. New cases dropped slightly and R number dropped from 1.0 to 0.99 on average. Roughly 1/5th of Portugal's population has received the vaccine's 1st dose and roughly 7.7% has received both doses.

 

[dragontamer5788]

Hopefully the final "bump" for our area. Vaccinations are rolling out pretty smoothly now (All the issues with J&J kind of didn't matter, because J&J didn't have much manufacturing capability spun up yet). Cases are also declining in the USA overall.

 

[xkm1948]

Situation in India is bad. We are waiting for India colleagues to upload their sampled covid genome. This sucks.