NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti GA102-225 GPU Pictured and Detailed

[las]

Ah, sure, VRAM allocated by a game is not the same as actual VRAM usage, just the 'maximum' the game thinks it might need, I understand that. That's not what is happening with Firefox though, as it allocates VRAM on a 'as needed' base.

So far I haven't seen any game max out VRAM usage on my 3090 though, even with Firefox gobbling up tons of it. Games cannot simply allocate ALL of the VRAM to themselves, as the Windows DWM also uses it for desktop composition (plus modern browsers) etc

Yeah memory leak maybe

 

[MxPhenom 216]

I've basically stopped all my searching for a 3080 to try and get one of these instead. Now will there be more than 5 cards available at launch?

 

[saki630]

Is it too much to ask of Nvidia this year to allow everyone wanting a 3070/3080 to upgrade 1080ti's a chance? Why cant we sign up and reserve a card (1-per person, per address, per card, per year), get a discount for being a valued customer by showing evidence of our 1080/2080 era cards that are going to the museum or 2nd hand market, and enjoy the overflowing riches they are having thanks to the miners?

Its laughable to think any gamer is going to get this card for under $1500.

 

[Vayra86]

And it's gone.

What?

Oh, a GPU I thought this was a topic about extinct animal species of late.

118.9 Mh/s for 999 bucks? Nuff said, it's already gone.


To make Nvidia look good in front of it's shareholders and tech press. The reality is that Ngreedia LOVES "enterprise" miners. They (or their AIBs) sell them tons of "raw GPUs" and even help them with writting custom drivers/mining optimizations. It's hard to turn down when someone offers you 100 million bucks or more for GPUs without outputs, coolers and is willing to pay more than retail price for them on top of that. Plus there's no logistics and marketing expenses, no fidlling with large retailers demanding quantity discounts to be had... No ETH limiter for "big guys" from NGreedia NGreedia & AMD (to a lesser extend this time) are making a killing in this mining craze.

You're barking up the wrong tree.

Talk to your government to get a heavy tax on crypto going. Vote for those who prioritize climate over personal gain. Etc.

Tons of things you can do to make a change in limitless greed. But it needs consistency and a better social contract. Leave it to capitalism without checks and balances, and all you get is a deeper crater you might never crawl out of, or when you do, its so painful, you'll not even start - ignorance is bliss.

Or, just keep it simple, and vote with your wallet. Its not hard wrt GPUs, but every single person either using or mining crypto is part of the problem. That includes the happy gamers that tag along today and everyone waiting in line to buy the first GPU they can find.

Either way, Nvidia or AMD are the very last companies who should care about doing the right thing. They deliver the tools without any intent or emotion. Its up to people to use them correctly. Same applies to guns, or cars, etc. Its perfectly right for Nv and AMD to sell 'neutral' product as they do now: you get a shitload of transistors, have fun with it. Matter of fact, its the ONLY way I would ever accept buying a GPU to begin with. Artificial limits have no place on silicon, nor any purpose unless its about thermals or endurance.

 

[moproblems99]

but every single person either using or mining crypto is part of the problem

What problem are we talking about? Supply and demand?

Its perfectly right for Nv and AMD to sell 'neutral' product as they do now: you get a shitload of transistors, have fun with it.

Because this contradicts there being a problem other than supply and demand.

 

[Vayra86]

What problem are we talking about? Supply and demand?


Because this contradicts there being a problem other than supply and demand.

Greed

Similar things apply to guns - its the user that makes the difference. You get a powerful tool, what do you choose to do with it? Waste energy to make money? Or simple entertainment what it was meant for. Do you prioritize getting rich off the back of the planet, or having a life you can enjoy, and the generations after you along with it.

Every single person that jumped on this mining bandwagon has lost perspective of what's really important in life, if you ask me. Even if people say they did 'just for fun'. We all know better. Its simple and pure greed talking and acting in best short term personal interests, instead of long term considerations such as, healthy market, less e-waste, and the idea you might actually be able to get back into PC gaming proper - or realizing the value of entertainment. The current situation is going to have a long term after effect - even if mining is just a small part of the issue.

 

[moproblems99]

Greed

Hey, it's about having fun with millions of transistors. It annoys the shit out of me that everyone gets all bent out of shape about people buying transistors and paying bills with them. I bet we wouldn't be having these conversations if everyone was buying the shit out of gpus for folding or what not.

Quit worrying about what everyone else is doing with their transistors.

Do note, this isn't directed at you necessarily. Nv and AMD don't give two craps about what anyone does with their GPUs. Anyone arguing otherwise is either stupid or mad they can't one for a price they feel they should pay.

Another note:. No one else cares what you think you ought to pay for a gpu so you may as well keep it your self.

 

[Vayra86]

Hey, it's about having fun with millions of transistors. It annoys the shit out of me that everyone gets all bent out of shape about people buying transistors and paying bills with them. I bet we wouldn't be having these conversations if everyone was buying the shit out of gpus for folding or what not.

Quit worrying about what everyone else is doing with their transistors.

Do note, this isn't directed at you necessarily. Nv and AMD don't give two craps about what anyone does with their GPUs. Anyone arguing otherwise is either stupid or mad they can't one for a price they feel they should pay.

Another note:. No one else cares what you think you ought to pay for a gpu so you may as well keep it your self.

You miss the point. The current crypto market is an unhealthy, unsustainable market that imposes a heavy toll on our long term chances to reduce footprint and therefore enable future generations to... well, thrive.

Is that having fun? I beg to differ. Its short term greed at the expense of others, and yes, it is perfectly fine to be against that, in fact, its ethically correct, while mining is absolutely not. Just call it what it is, because its absolutely not true and never will be that your actions exist without any effect on people around you, even if the effect isn't directly visible.

It matters and its easy to get into a downward spiral that way, which is what crypto is on right now. 'He does it, so why wouldn't I'. Its akin to the gold rush, a desperate attempt to get rich more easily than the rest.

Maybe no one cares. But they should and if they don't, that is 100% 'I'm alone in the world, fuck you'. One of those nice side effects of unlimited, unregulated capitalism.

 

[moproblems99]

You miss the point. The current crypto market is an unhealthy, unsustainable market that imposes a heavy toll on our long term chances to reduce footprint and therefore enable future generations to... well, thrive.

Nope, I just don't believe crypto is using enough to push us over the edge. We are going over with or without crypto. I'd rather focus on things that make a difference.

 

[Vayra86]

Nope, I just don't believe crypto is using enough to push us over the edge. We are going over with or without crypto. I'd rather focus on this that make a difference.

Good point but every little helps. Even global shipping only amounts for what, 10%? When is a percentage enough to matter? Who's the judge?

Its a simple idea; a better world starts with you, and it applies, simple enough. Still, I feel you, but that's that downward spiral we're on: 'If he doesn't do it, why would I'. This applies in a big way to single civilian versus big government or corporate. But still. Every little helps.

 

[moproblems99]

Also, I am not mining so I have no horse in this race.

Good point but every little helps. Even global shipping only amounts for what, 10%? When is a percentage enough to matter? Who's the judge?

Its a simple idea; a better world starts with you, and it applies, simple enough. Still, I feel you, but that's that downward spiral we're on: 'If he doesn't do it, why would I'. This applies in a big way to single civilian versus big government or corporate. But still. Every little helps.

I don't necessarily disagree. We just have different ideas about how to get there.

 

[Deleted member 205776]

We are screwed no matter what in the next few decades, and rampant mining isn't helping.

 

[moproblems99]

We are screwed no matter what in the next few decades, and rampant mining isn't helping.

Well, if we didn't have the pandemic, mining wouldn't be as much of a problem either. However, all the children will complain anyway unless it is given away. Even if it was msrp people would still complain.