The RX 6000 series Owners' Club

[Hemmingstamp]

Wholeheartedly agree, I would also never pay scalper prices, the moment you do, you give scalpers the ok to continue and present your behind for their pleasure

That was from an online retail store. Never going to shop with them again. Rip off bustards.

 

[GamerGuy]

Yeah, but not only online, brick and mortar shops (in the local tech mall in my neck of the woods) are selling at crazy high prices too. They've effectively become scalpers themselves. I went to just look around a while back, saw that some cards seemed reasonably priced, but when I'd enquired, I was told price listed was the bundled/system build price, for the card alone, the price left me slack jawed.

Just really glad I'd jumped on my card late December/early January, 2021, and even then, I'd fully believed that prices would go down AFTER I'd gotten the card. I'd bought a GF 7950 GX2, and was dumbfounded when the GF 8800 series was released within weeks of my purchase (same goes for my GF4 Ti 4200, the 9700 Pro came out and spanked the entire GF4 Ti series silly), or maybe I simply have bad luck with nVidia cards.

 

[Butanding1987]

This shit is addictive

Congrats! Yes, it is. You won’t have time anymore to play games. Now go get a 5950x to boost your CPU and overall scores.

 

[Felix123BU]

Congrats! Yes, it is. You won’t have time anymore to play games. Now go get a 5950x to boost your CPU and overall scores.

Ain't that bad , took me only 3 hours to find the max out of the card (and there might be still something to squeeze out of it), and I can say one thing, without Liquid Metal I could have not pushed it this far, of that I am sure. Re getting a 5950X, nah, the same I said no way in hell will I pay 25 EUR for freaking 3DMark, same I wont pay 750+ for a thing I don't need for a better bench score which besides being fun, is completely irrelevant

 

[GamerGuy]

Re getting a 5950X, nah, the same I said no way in hell will I pay 25 EUR for freaking 3DMark, same I wont pay 750+ for a thing I don't need for a better bench score which besides being fun, is completely irrelevant

Same here, I was thinking of getting a 5950X (or at least a 5900X) but decided against it as I really don't need it.......yet. I may look at a used or NOS 5950X in 2-3 years time, just to give my rig a little boost in gaming performance. My 3900X is more than enough for ALL the games I play as of now, I may not get the highest framerate with another system with a secksay Ryzen 5000 series CPU, but the 3900X is fast enough to gimme good framerate in games, which is my primary focus.

Reading about your OC'ing experience takes me back to the good old days of my AMD AXP 3200+ (Barton) + ATi 9700 Pro, I was part of a 3DMark 01 team and was trying to be the 3rd to break 20k, man, I sweated bullets trying for 20k, usually in the high 19k (after tweaking and OC'ing)....but I did do it, and it felt great!

 

[turbogear]

Mmmmm, beat my all time TimeSpy score by quite some points

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Almost 21k with a 6800XT, not bad

And Firestrike also went insane
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Damn I don't visit the thread a few days and @Felix123BU start breaking records.
That's amazing score.

I haven't tried to check the limits of 6900XTU that much but I can say the LM is tempting.
At 2750MHz the performance does not scale that much as temperature goes fast towards 90°C then giving more power brings little gain.
It seems that I need to be brave again and screw my warranty and open the expensive card.

 

[Felix123BU]

Damn I don't visit the thread a few days and @Felix123BU start breaking records.
That's amazing score.

I haven't tried to check the limits of 6900XTU that much but I can say the LM is tempting.
At 2750MHz the performance does not scale that much as temperature goes fast towards 90°C then giving more power brings little gain.
It seems that I need to be brave again and screw my warranty and open the expensive cards.

LM is pure magic on my chip, and I bet it would drastically change temps on your 6900XT too, see how I am tempting you?
But if you do it, pretty please be careful, the though of wrecking a 2000+ EUR GPU gives me shivers

Also, if you referred to the old score of 60370 in Firstrike, that's ok, the new best is 61785 and that's a fantastic score, did not think I could do such a high score with my puny reference 6800XT

 

[turbogear]

I was talking to owner of 6900XTU that scored 2300 Time Spy.
He wa saying the same that until he went to LM he was not able to get higher settings stable.
That guy has been tracking 6900XTU owners on multiple forums and was saying that PowerColorhas used crappy thermal past on these cards.
The pads on the other hand are very high quality.

 

[Felix123BU]

I was talking to owner of 6900XTU that scored 2300 Time Spy.
He wa saying the same that until he went to LM he was not able to get higher settings stable.
That guy has been tracking 6900XTU owners on multiple forums and was saying that PowerColorhas used crappy thermal past on these cards.
The pads on the other hand are very high quality.

Well yeah, 6900XTU chips are overclocker cards, one can not leave the factory thermal paste on, that would be unworthy of the chip

 

[turbogear]

LM is pure magic on my chip, and I bet it would drastically change temps on your 6900XT too, see how I am tempting you?
But if you do it, pretty please be careful, the though of wrecking a 2000+ EUR GPU gives me shivers

It seems we live on the limit and something doesn't stop us from taking risks.
Anyways I was not thinking about computer and enjoy some time with family last days as we had holidays here.
My son and me broke also a or own record by driving 64km bike in 3 hours yesterday.

 

[Felix123BU]

It seems we live on the limit and something doesn't stop us from taking risks.
Anyways I was not thinking about computer and enjoy some time with family last days as we had holidays here.
My son and me broke also a my own record by driving 64km bike in 3 hours yesterday.

If you are a PC enthusiast, its part of the job and the fun, not so fun is when your shiny new card fries because you shorted it with LM, so please be careful with that half a kidney valued 6900XTU

 

[turbogear]

If you are a PC enthusiast, its part of the job and the fun, not so fun is when your shiny new card fries because you shorted it with LM, so please be careful with that half a kidney valued 6900XTU

I applied LM on Vega before and delided i7 7700k and applied it there.
I did not use much protection there.
Both survived. i7 is still being used by my son.
Due to Murphis law, I will try to be careful this time and apply some protection.

I wonder if there is expiry date for Liquid Metal.
I have a one unopened package of Cool Laboratory Liquid Pro that I bought about 3 years ago.
I have also Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut package where I used some parts on Radeon VII about 2 years ago.
I wonder if these can be still used.

I was watching video about the liquid metal and it's use with different types of metal coolers.
So LM does stain Nickel plated surfaces.
I had this experience as well before with the CPU where the text on the surface of Nickel plated Heat Spreader was gone after a year.

Here is video from Gamers Nexus comparing the effects of LM on the surface of Copper, Nickel and Aluminum:
How Liquid Metal Affects Copper, Nickel, and Aluminum (Corrosion Test) - YouTube

So if I don't want to screw the warranty on the 2299€ card, then maybe I should stay away from LM.
For warranty purposes it would stain the Nickel in a way that it is not reversible.
So even if I remove the warranty sticker in a super careful way without breaking it, the warranty sticker will not help as the cooler will be stained after using LM for some time.

But maybe I still should open it and apply some better thermal paste like Thermal Grizzly.

I was also looking for the best alternatives to LM.
The Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut is still the best according to the recent review from Guru3D and better than MX-5.
According to this review LM (Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut ) is only few degrees better than Kryonaut but according to experience from @Felix123BU and @Butanding1987 it is much better than just a few degrees:

Guru3D Thermal Paste Roundup - Round 2 (2021) - Introduction

 

[aRcane305]

I applied LM on Vega before and delided i7 7700k and applied it there.
I did not use much protection there.
Both survived. i7 is still being used by my son.
Due to Murphis law, I will try to be careful this time and apply some protection.

I wonder if there is expiry date for Liquid Metal.
I have a one unopened package of Cool Laboratory Liquid Pro that I bought about 3 years ago.
I have also Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut package where I used some parts on Radeon VII about 2 years ago.
I wonder if these can be still used.

I was watching video about the liquid metal and it's use with different types of metal coolers.
So LM does stain Nickel plated surfaces.
I had this experience as well before with the CPU where the text on the surface of Nickel plated Heat Spreader was gone after a year.

Here is video from Gamers Nexus comparing the effects of LM on the surface of Copper, Nickel and Aluminum:
How Liquid Metal Affects Copper, Nickel, and Aluminum (Corrosion Test) - YouTube

So if I don't want to screw the warranty on the 2299€ card, then maybe I should stay away from LM.
For warranty purposes it would stain the Nickel in a way that it is not reversible.
So even if I remove the warranty sticker in a super careful way without breaking it, the warranty sticker will not help as the cooler will be stained after using LM for some time.

But maybe I still should open it and apply some better thermal paste like Thermal Grizzly.

I was also looking for the best alternatives to LM.
The Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut is still the best according to the recent review from Guru3D and better than MX-5.
According to this review LM (Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut ) is only few degrees better than Kryonaut but according to experience from @Felix123BU and @Butanding1987 it is much better than just a few degrees:

Guru3D Thermal Paste Roundup - Round 2 (2021) - Introduction

Hey turbo, remember I came and asked for help regarding overclocking the 6900XT toxic. I managed to get 2735Mhz clocks and 2150 vram stable in synthetic benchmarks, using Afterburner to set the clocks and MPT and wattman for power. is that a normal thing to do without modding it?

 

[Butanding1987]

Hey turbo, remember I came and asked for help regarding overclocking the 6900XT toxic. I managed to get 2735Mhz clocks and 2150 vram stable in synthetic benchmarks, using Afterburner to set the clocks and MPT and wattman for power. is that a normal thing to do without modding it?

Make sure your overclocked VRAM is actually giving you better performance. Sometimes, it may be stable but it actually leads to worse performance. You’ll never know until you do benchmark comparisons.

 

[GerKNG]

an example from me
Stock undervolted vs. timespy extreme loop, over 100 Hours of Gaming and other stresstests stable 2730 Mhz at 1150mv.

and another benchmark with powerlimits (same 2730Mhz Core 2100Mhz "Fast" Memory OC)

 

[turbogear]

Hey turbo, remember I came and asked for help regarding overclocking the 6900XT toxic. I managed to get 2735Mhz clocks and 2150 vram stable in synthetic benchmarks, using Afterburner to set the clocks and MPT and wattman for power. is that a normal thing to do without modding it?

That looks good. Only thing is that check if 2150MHz on VRAM gives you higher performance or something less.
On many 6800XT and 6900XT cards actually score degrades if memory is pushed to the limit.
Many times less than 2130MHz gives actaully higher performance.

 

[kak4rot]

Hi all,

This is the shitty max clock I get on my watercooled reference AMD RX 6900 XT when I press manual setting in the perfomance tab in wattman.

It looks the max stable OC I can reach is 2539 Mhz with 15% power limit and 1175 mV. Increasing power limit with MPT doesn't change anything on my max clock, if I increase max clock it becomes unstable on TimeSpy.

Can you say that I got the most shitty reference card ever? what a pity that the waterblock ended up on this card :cautious:

Other thing I have noticed is I have random micro stutter accompanied by a small drop in fps in some situations in Battlefield V and Quake Champions...

 

[turbogear]

Hi all,

This is the shitty max clock I get on my watercooled reference AMD RX 6900 XT when I press manual setting in the perfomance tab in wattman.

It looks the max stable OC I can reach is 2539 Mhz with 15% power limit and 1175 mV. Increasing power limit with MPT doesn't change anything on my max clock, if I increase max clock it becomes unstable on TimeSpy.

Can you say that I got the most shitty reference card ever? what a pity that the waterblock ended up on this card :cautious:

Other thing I have noticed is I have random micro stutter accompanied by a small drop in fps in some situations in Battlefield V and Quake Champions...

Well you are just unlucky it seems.
The 6800XT Red Devil that I bought to replace the my defective reference 6800XT cards was also really shitty. It did not go higher than 2400MHz and stuttered at that settings in games.
I returned it and got myself 6900XTU Liquid Devil.
This can run 2750MHz at 1750mV (max 1200mV possible) but it is not as energy efficient.

The best was my 6800XT reference card that Oced to 2750MHz at 1020mV while consuming only 345W.
It is pity that it was destroyed by ESD shock.

 

[Felix123BU]

Well you are just unlucky it seems.
The 6800XT Red Devil that I bought to replace the my defective reference 6800XT cards was also really shitty. It did not go higher than 2400MHz and stuttered at that settings in games.
I returned it and got myself 6900XTU Liquid Devil.
This can run 2750MHz at 1750mV (max 1200mV possible) but it is not as energy efficient.

The best was my 6800XT reference card that Oced to 2750MHz at 1020mV while consuming only 345W.
It is pity that it was destroyed by ESD shock.

There should be a warning on all new 6000 chips, might not overclock as well as the first batch

 

[kak4rot]

Well you are just unlucky it seems.
The 6800XT Red Devil that I bought to replace the my defective reference 6800XT cards was also really shitty. It did not go higher than 2400MHz and stuttered at that settings in games.
I returned it and got myself 6900XTU Liquid Devil.
This can run 2750MHz at 1750mV (max 1200mV possible) but it is not as energy efficient.

The best was my 6800XT reference card that Oced to 2750MHz at 1020mV while consuming only 345W.
It is pity that it was destroyed by ESD shock.

My stutters are not related with OC, even on stock setting I notice some microstutter. I have tried everything I have read here, reddit, amd forums, overclock.net. etc. I wonder if I should RMA this garbage

 

[Felix123BU]

My stutters are not related with OC, even on stock setting I notice some microstutter. I have tried everything I have read here, reddit, amd forums, overclock.net. etc. I wonder if I should RMA this garbage

Did you get it from AMD directly? If yes, you should RMA it.

 

[turbogear]

My stutters are not related with OC, even on stock setting I notice some microstutter. I have tried everything I have read here, reddit, amd forums, overclock.net. etc. I wonder if I should RMA this garbage

Yes I think you should RMA it if it stutters all time, but I am not sure if your warranty is still valid as you have opened it.

The stutter is very curious issue. My reference 6800XT also started stuttering but for me it happened after ESD issue.
My 6800XT card has been in repair over a month now.
I would be lucky if they repair it as I had it also under water block.
I took off warranty stickers in good state when I opened it. Still it would be possible to see that cooler was taken off if they look closely.

So let's see if at some point I get a replacement or they will send it back without repair.

In anyways I think it was good that I bought a replacement otherwise I would not have been able to use my computer for very long time.
I still don't have any definite time frame until when I get it back.

 

[kak4rot]

Yes I think you should RMA it if it stutters all time, but I am not sure if your warranty is still valid as you have opened it.

The stutter is very curious issue. My reference 6800XT also started stuttering but for me it happened after ESD issue.
My 6800XT card has been in repair over a month now.
I would be lucky if they repair it as I had it also under water block.
I took off warranty stickers in good state when I opened it. Still it would be possible to see that cooler was taken off if they look closely.

So let's see if at some point I get a replacement or they will send it back without repair.

In anyways I think it was good that I bought a replacement otherwise I would not have been able to use my computer for very long time.
I still don't have any definite time frame until when I get it back.

I wasn't lucky taking off my warranty sticker, I tried with a little of heat but finally it broke . I don't know if send it without warranty sticker as if I had never brought it or try to find one.

EDIT: I think these stickers would do the job:

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[Space Lynx]

My stutters are not related with OC, even on stock setting I notice some microstutter. I have tried everything I have read here, reddit, amd forums, overclock.net. etc. I wonder if I should RMA this garbage

others have fixed the stutter by setting the Min OC and max OC. your just setting the max higher but leaving min at 500. i set my min to 2100, and max 2550, and have 0 issues. but stutter could be from your cpu or anything overheating, no idea. i have 0 issues at stock or oc'ing.

 

[Felix123BU]

I wasn't lucky taking off my warranty sticker, I tried with a little of heat but finally it broke . I don't know if send it without warranty sticker as if I had never brought it or try to find one.

EDIT: I think these stickers would do the job:

1.89US $ |360 Uds. De tarjeta gráfica AMD de 6 mm de diámetro, garantía, sin efecto si se quita, pegatinas de sello agrietadas V44|Adhesivos de papelería| - AliExpress

¡Compra fácil, vive mejor! Aliexpress.com

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Damn, I did not even think about buying warranty stickers, fantastic idea I would give you a prize for this