Intel Launches 10nm "Tiger Lake" Desktop Processors

[micropage7]

new socket?

could be since for intel, new stuff is the new socket

 

[Ravenas]

please show me a 5950x for 580€ i'd buy one instantly.

Don’t think you understand the post. I just purchased a 5950x on Amazon for $799 MSRP. Intel released the 11900k which is literally a worse chip than the previous generation, at the same price, $799. Then after about a week immediately dropped the price down to 10900k prices.

 

[londiste]

Don’t think you understand the post. I just purchased a 5950x on Amazon for $799 MSRP. Intel released the 11900k which is literally a worse chip than the previous generation, at the same price, $799. Then after about a week immediately dropped the price down to 10900k prices.

11900K RCP (which in Intel's case, is pretty much MSRP) is $539-549. At least in EU it has been available at 550€, close to the intended price, although occasionally jumping to 590€.
5950X has been a little weird. It was listed at slightly over MSRP - 850 or so - from launch to around end of January but availability was spotty. From end of Jan to end of March it was available but generally at 900+ prices. Since early April it has been available and at MSRP.

 

[GerKNG]

Don’t think you understand the post. I just purchased a 5950x on Amazon for $799 MSRP. Intel released the 11900k which is literally a worse chip than the previous generation, at the same price, $799. Then after about a week immediately dropped the price down to 10900k prices.

the MSRP of the 11900k is 549€ (since day one!)
the 5950x MSRP is 799€

 

[Ravenas]

the MSRP of the 11900k is 549€ (since day one!)
the 5950x MSRP is 799€

Released at $799 above MSRP on Newegg, dropped to $613-650, now settled at $549.

Even at $549, it’s overpriced in comparison to what the 10900k released at. It’s not as a good as a 10900k.

 

[GerKNG]

Released at $799 above MSRP on Newegg, dropped to $613-650, now settled at $549.

Even at $549, it’s overpriced in comparison to what the 10900k released at. It’s not as a good as a 10900k.

29.3.2021 (Pre Launch Review one day before release)
the 11900k starts at 550€, the predecessor is available for 460€ (10900k)

this was from one day before launch. the price was the same since day one.

 

[Ravenas]

29.3.2021 (Pre Launch Review one day before release)
the 11900k starts at 550€, the predecessor is available for 460€ (10900k)

this was from one day before launch. the price was the same since day one.
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Don’t care what any review site says. I was going to purchase one from Newegg day one, the price was $799. A week later is dropped. Don’t know about Europe pricing, but that’s what occurred here.

Intel Core i9-11900K Bundles From Newegg And antOnline Make Buying The Hard To Find Processor Easier

Both Newegg and antOnline are offering bundle deals including the Intel Core i9-11900K at a reasonable price closer to the MSRP.

wccftech.com

Micro center a week after launch:

 

[RandallFlagg]

Don’t care what any review site says. I was going to purchase one from Newegg day one, the price was $799. A week later is dropped. Don’t know about Europe pricing, but that’s what occurred here.

Intel Core i9-11900K Bundles From Newegg And antOnline Make Buying The Hard To Find Processor Easier

Both Newegg and antOnline are offering bundle deals including the Intel Core i9-11900K at a reasonable price closer to the MSRP.

wccftech.com

Micro center a week after launch:
View attachment 202204

Trying to compare launch day / week pricing to some 'good deal' you got on a competitor product that has been out for 8 months is very disingenuous.

As of right now, you can get an 11900K at Microcenter for $519 (if you can find one) while the 11700K is $359 and the 5800X is $399. The 5950X is usually out of stock but when you can find it, MC has a deal going for $799. On Amazon the 5950X is $999 while the 5900X is $685.

So no despite your continued equivocating and cherry picking of pricing at different points in the product release cycle, this is not a valid price / performance comparison. The 11700K and 11900K compete with the 5800X in price / performance, they've never been in competition with a 5950X as when the 11900K released the 5900X was $1000 and the 5950X was going for $1400 - mostly only available on the scalper market.

 

[GerKNG]

Don’t care what any review site says.

the only that they say is the exact day one MSRP for Europe.
and when they try to rip of your in NA with heavy overpricing in stores (that are not even the MSRP... just blown random prices).. that's your problem.

549 is the official price since the first second when the 11900k hits the market.

 

[r9]

I would buy this over 11900k any day ...

 

[Ravenas]

the only that they say is the exact day one MSRP for Europe.
and when they try to rip of your in NA with heavy overpricing in stores (that are not even the MSRP... just blown random prices).. that's your problem.

549 is the official price since the first second when the 11900k hits the market.

I stated the chip launched over priced well above MSRP at $799. Twist and turn that anyway you want, brick and mortar or online, reviews stating the MSRP, or any other theoretical reasoning. The fact remains it launched at $799, dropped to between $600 and $650 a week later, and now rests at $549. The 11900k is a worse chip than the 10900k.

Those are the facts I stated.

 

[ThrashZone]

I stated the chip launched over priced well above MSRP at $799. Twist and turn that anyway you want, brick and mortar or online, reviews stating the MSRP, or any other theoretical reasoning. The fact remains it launched at $799, dropped to between $600 and $650 a week later, and now rests at $549. The 11900k is a worse chip than the 10900k.

Those are the facts I stated.

Hi,
Indeed this 11 series 8 core is one of the stupidest priced chips I've seen in a while it makes no sense at all
Like r9 says 10850k is obviously a better chip and price.

the only that they say is the exact day one MSRP for Europe.
and when they try to rip of your in NA with heavy overpricing in stores (that are not even the MSRP... just blown random prices).. that's your problem.

549 is the official price since the first second when the 11900k hits the market.

Hi,
Sure wasn't in the USA buddy lol

 

[ratirt]

please show me a 5950x for 580€ i'd buy one instantly.

5950x MSRP is $800 not 580 EUR.

the MSRP of the 11900k is 549€ (since day one!)
the 5950x MSRP is 799€

yes true and the 11900K is a ruse however you slice it.

 

[AusWolf]

I stated the chip launched over priced well above MSRP at $799. Twist and turn that anyway you want, brick and mortar or online, reviews stating the MSRP, or any other theoretical reasoning. The fact remains it launched at $799, dropped to between $600 and $650 a week later, and now rests at $549. The 11900k is a worse chip than the 10900k.

Those are the facts I stated.

The fact that Newegg (not Intel) launched it above MSRP is not Intel's fault. It's also not their fault that you bought it for that price.

Just out of curiosity, what made you choose the 11900K over the 11700K?

 

[Ravenas]

The fact that Newegg (not Intel) launched it above MSRP is not Intel's fault. It's also not their fault that you bought it for that price.

Just out of curiosity, what made you choose the 11900K over the 11700K?

I never bought one, I was going to buy one at launch for $549, but they were priced high at $799. I’m not concerned with whose fault it is for the pricing, I’m stating that they were priced at $799 and poster wanted to argue a bunch of different circular nonsensical theories and claimed proofs as to why they were priced at MSRP at launch. Just trolling apparently.

To further elaborate, after discovering from W1zz’s review that the chip performed worse than the 10900k and consumed more power, I decided Intel was just using the chip as a stop gap and slapping customers in their face because of their presumed market position. At the time the 10900k remained priced at $549, and then they eventually had to face the reality that the 10900k price had to be dropped, and then drop 11900k pricing to actually move 11900k inventory. The 11900k is still available everywhere, what does that tell you?

 

[ThrashZone]

I never bought one, I was going to buy one at launch for $549, but they were priced high at $799. I’m not concerned with whose fault it is for the pricing, I’m stating that were priced at $799 and poster wanted to argue a bunch of different circular nonsensical theories and claimed proofs as to why they were priced at MSRP at launch. Just trolling apparently.

To further elaborate, after discovering from W1zz’s review that the chip performed worse than the 10900k and consumed more power, I decided Intel was just using the chip as a stop gap and slapping customers in their face because of their presumed market position. At the time the 10900k remained priced at $549, and then they eventually had to face the reality that the 10900k price had to be dropped, and then drop 11900k pricing to actually move 11900k inventory. The 11900k is still available everywhere, what does that tell you?

Hi,
I got my 10900k at microcenter for just over 400.us soon after release couldn't believe it was there and add to cart was active lol
Mine was also made in China which all others made out of Korea weren't very good at all.

Then the apex came instock for 400.us I believe at newegg and I was packing up and returning an overpriced 500us+ formula to amazon.

 

[AusWolf]

I never bought one, I was going to buy one at launch for $549, but they were priced high at $799. I’m not concerned with whose fault it is for the pricing, I’m stating that were priced at $799 and poster wanted to argue a bunch of different circular nonsensical theories and claimed proofs as to why they were priced at MSRP at launch. Just trolling apparently.

To further elaborate, after discovering from W1zz’s review that the chip performed worse than the 10900k and consumed more power, I decided Intel was just using the chip as a stop gap and slapping customers in their face because of their presumed market position. At the time the 10900k remained priced at $549, and then they eventually had to face the reality that the 10900k price had to be dropped, and then drop 11900k pricing to actually move 11900k inventory. The 11900k is still available everywhere, what does that tell you?

It's not just that. If you look at the 11700K, it literally offers the same as the 11900K for $200 less. With the current generation i9, you're only buying the name, nothing else.

 

[londiste]

It's not just that. If you look at the 11700K, it literally offers the same as the 11900K for $200 less. With the current generation i9, you're only buying the name, nothing else.

Extra 100-300MHz (probably at the lower end of that range) for 35% more

 

[Aquinus]

At the heart of these chips is the new 10 nm "Tiger Lake" 8-core/16-thread silicon, which packs 8 "Willow Cove" CPU cores, 24 MB of shared L3 cache, and a Gen12 Xe LP iGPU that has 48 EUs.

32 != 48.

The 8 core chips only have 32 EUs. It's the quad cores with a beefier cache that have 96 EUs or less and are branded Iris Xe, but I don't see anything with 48 EUs in Intel's lineup for these new chips.

 

[ThrashZone]

It's not just that. If you look at the 11700K, it literally offers the same as the 11900K for $200 less. With the current generation i9, you're only buying the name, nothing else.

Hi,
I believe 10900k is 10 core so is 10850k
10700k is not so there is your 200.us savings two less cores.
11 series you'd be paying for another 8 core for twice as much as the 10700k just for single core boost performance.
Guess you'd fall back to 11700k instead right can't blame you there 11900k is stupid priced.