Low GPU usage RTX 3070 (Laptop)

[Graff]

Hey guys i really hope u can help me out i bought a new laptop yesterday a Legion 5 15ACH6H.

I've tested it in the following games:

Rust - 30-60% usage
BFV - 30-60% usage DX11
BFV - 40-90% usage DX12 (Way higher FPS but alot of fps drops from 130-140 fps to 10 fps, pretty much unplayable no matter what setting)
F1 2020 - 30-50% usage
Pubg - 30-60% usage

My CPU is never near 100% and i have seen youtubers test pc's with the same spec's and they didn't have any problems with their GPU usage or fps drops.

When i do a benchmark my GPU usage can stay on 99-100 % same goes for the CPU, just not doing games.

What i've tried so far:

- DDU and reinstalled nvidia drivers and amd drivers
- Disabled the radeon graphics to release those exstra 2 GB of ram.
- Changing settings from ultra-low to see if it made a change in any of the games but it didn't
- Checked power settings
- Benchmarked to check if any components were to blame
- Checked temps


My spec's:

Ryzen 7 5800h
RTX 3070 8GB 130 watt
16 GB DDR3 3200 Mhz
1000 GB SSD

 

[GerKNG]

Power limit or CPU bottleneck.

not reaching "100%" CPU Load does not mean it is not a bottleneck.
or why doesn't anybody just play on a threadripper?

the games you show are bascially all CPU heavy (except maybe F1 but that depends on the scenario)

 

[Graff]

Power limit or CPU bottleneck.

not reaching "100%" CPU Load does not mean it is not a bottleneck.
or why doesn't anybody just play on a threadripper?

the games you show are bascially all CPU heavy (except maybe F1 but that depends on the scenario)

I'm pretty sure it's not a CPU bottleneck since i've seen other people playing the games with much higher GPU usage and Fps with the same laptop model.

 

[yotano211]

Check if the laptop is thermal throttling

 

[Space Lynx]

Check if the laptop is thermal throttling

its most likely this. which is why I am doing custom cooling to my laptop. all laptops are notoriously hot. cause laptop designers are cheapskates or afraid people will not want an extra 2 pounds of copper cooling to carry around, when in fact, most people buying gaming laptops would be just find with the extra weight if it meant proper temps.

 

[Graff]

its most likely this. which is why I am doing custom cooling to my laptop. all laptops are notoriously hot. cause laptop designers are cheapskates or afraid people will not want an extra 2 pounds of copper cooling to carry around, when in fact, most people buying gaming laptops would be just find with the extra weight if it meant proper temps.

But if it is thermal throttling shouldn't my GPU be good the first min or 2? And then slow down? and if i benchmark the PC it can stay at 100% for longer period of times?

Check if the laptop is thermal throttling

I just checked the temps again, my GPU is 70C after 10 min on 100% in a stress test.

 

[Space Lynx]

But if it is thermal throttling shouldn't my GPU be good the first min or 2? And then slow down? and if i benchmark the PC it can stay at 100% for longer period of times?


I just checked the temps again, my GPU is 70C after 10 min on 100% in a stress test.

whats the cpu temp?

 

[newtekie1]

Is the CPU power throttling? Use something like HW Monitor to monitor the clock speed of the CPU while gaming.

 

[Graff]

Is the CPU power throttling? Use something like HW Monitor to monitor the clock speed of the CPU while gaming.

After 15 mins of rust.

Settings
1080p - Ultra

whats the cpu temp?

In BFV i can go to 75-80 but that shouldn't be a problem.

 

[Space Lynx]

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After 15 mins of rust.

Settings
1080p - Ultra


In BFV i can go to 75-80 but that shouldn't be a problem.

have you ever gone into control panel and set to high performance mode? make sure min processor state is at 100% when plugged in?

 

[Graff]

have you ever gone into control panel and set to high performance mode? make sure min processor state is at 100% when plugged in?

Yeah i've checked that :/ But thanks anyways
I've also checked the Nvdidia control panel and Lenovo Vantage, every setting is maxed for performance.

One of the many benchmark's i've taken, can't see that anything should be a problem in any of the test :/

 

[Space Lynx]

Yeah i've checked that :/ But thanks anyways
I've also checked the Nvdidia control panel and Lenovo Vantage, every setting is maxed for performance.

some games simply don't use and aren't programmed to use full cpu/gpu cause they are easy to run. but I mean if you can get 144 fps on 144hz monitor and its only giving you 114 fps and barely using cpu/gpu... I see your problem... that is frustrating.

I really have no idea what the issue would be. @R-T-B the frog might think of something, but I don't know.

 

[kurosagi01]

Have you ticked to run the DGPU only on the Lenovo software? Because Nvidia Optimus can hamper performance in games.

 

[nguyen]

Could be RAM bottleneck, your laptop could have memory modules with slow secondary timings that reduce performance in CPU bound games.
Download Zentimings and check the timings

When gaming on laptop I would set the Max FPS to something like 120fps for online game and 60fps for single player games, which reduce the amount of stutters and keep thermal/fan noise in check.

 

[Space Lynx]

not sure if it helps, but this is what my gtx 1070 laptop settings look like... you want to make sure highest available is selected for preferred refresh rate. and prefer max performance.

 

[Graff]

some games simply don't use and aren't programmed to use full cpu/gpu cause they are easy to run. but I mean if you can get 144 fps on 144hz monitor and its only giving you 114 fps and barely using cpu/gpu... I see your problem... that is frustrating.

I really have no idea what the issue would be. @R-T-B the frog might think of something, but I don't know.

Yeah, my laptop got a 165 Hz screen and my monitor is 144 Hz, Pubg pretty much got the same gpu and cpu usage as rust just 140ish fps.

Have you ticked to run the DGPU only on the Lenovo software? Because Nvidia Optimus can hamper performance in games.

Yeah i'm only running the RTX 3070 the AMD Radeon is disable But it helped a bit since it released 2 gb of ram

Could be RAM bottleneck, your laptop could have memory modules with slow secondary timings that reduce performance in CPU bound games.
Download Zentimings and check the timings
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When gaming on laptop I would set the Max FPS to something like 120fps for online game and 60fps for single player games, which reduce the amount of stutters and keep thermal/fan noise in check.

Thanks i did see that video and i got the Default memory so i orded the same one as he used just 32GB instead of 16GB, hopefully thats going to help

But really strange how they on paper got the same specs but the performance difference is so big :O

not sure if it helps, but this is what my gtx 1070 laptop settings look like... you want to make sure highest available is selected for preferred refresh rate. and prefer max performance.

Thanks, i've got pretty much the same settings, so i guess that shouldn't be the problem.

Ill keep your guys posted after i've installed the new memory(Hopefully it will arive later today) to see if it makes a difference as it did in the video that @nguyen referred to

And so far thanks for all the feedback, i really appreciate it It's seems like a really good community so i'm glad i joined. (And sorry for any misspellings ect. English isn't my main language :i )

 

[kurosagi01]

There are things i've done to help keep my Zephyrus G14 temps below 75c while playing games.
-Set fan speed to 60% above 60c for both CPU and GPU
-Cooling pad
-In power settings(you will need to enable it in registry editor) under processor performance boost mode set it as disabled
-On CPU (might be different on Lenovo software) under SPL/SPPT set to 15w using Armour crate
-Install MSI Afterburner and undervolt the GPU. I have the 60w 3060 which has dynamic boost upto 85w, the Armoury crate has a dynamic boost upto 1380mhz. So i've undervolt at the 1380mhz speed.

 

[Graff]

Okay guys i've installed the 32 GB of ram and it seems to have worked it's not perfect but way better this is my stats while playing a game of PUBG on ultra settings 1080P.

Current FPS 186 - avg FPS 168 And low 1% 97 FPS

I guess Rust is just still a f.. up game performance wise xD It really don't want to use the power in my laptop :/

 

[yotano211]

Did you only have 1 stick of ram in that laptop

 

[Graff]

Did you only have 1 stick of ram in that laptop

No 2x8GB 3200 Mhz c22 But i just bought 32 gb 3200 Mhz c22 but they are alot better for the ryzen cpu and a 1440p monitor and now i can play BFV 64 players map with no lag and 130 fps avg on ultra in 1440p i must say i think thats impressiv specialy for a laptop and the price of it