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That dongle is pure evil. It was absolutely the stiffest cable I think I’ve ever used for anything. Just bending it connect the cards was a feat and was basically trying to “pull itself out” so a maintaining connection was an issue…
I believe as even in pics it looks hella stiffy :D Those bridges were okay on pre-Hawaii cards though.
 
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The problem with Phenoms is you gotta keep them under 60C when loaded to remain stable, and they output a ton of heat when OC'd. The one I have at 4.2 got to 58C yesterday with a beefy 140mm single tower cooler. And the NB reached 60C.

But then again, my room temperature is currently at 28C :wtf:

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Nice OC.
Here is my 980 with a Thermalright 140 air cooler. Cinebench in at 50c.

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I believe as even in pics it looks hella stiffy :D Those bridges were okay on pre-Hawaii cards though.
I kid you not it ripped one of the fastening screws out…it would definitely make a good weapon…
 
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I kid you not it ripped one of the fastening screws out…it would definitely make a good weapon…
May I direct your eye... LOL

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Went to a Goodwill and a local thrift store and got some goodies. I have pictures of only a few things as the others are in use. I would stick it on the tech-related purchase thread but it's all old hardware. Here's a list (all prices are in USD:
- 6FT FireWire 800 cable (brand-new in box), $2.75
- 6FT FireWire 400 cable, $0.75
- 3FT 9-pin serial cable, $0.75
- USB to DS/DS Lite/DSi/3DS series charging cable, $0.75
- Weird S-video looking port to component female. It goes to a connector on my Power Mac G4's PCI video card that I think allows for component recording, or display? Not sure. Said Power Mac is currently broken - logic board is dead due to age and two stupid mistakes (screw on the board while powered on and accidentally hitting the PMU reset switch a few times too many). $0.75.
- Crayola USB keyboard. This one me and my aunt got for my dad as a Father's Day present, along with a note that reads "Got you a new keyboard with bigger letters 'cause you're old now. Enjoy."
He's 40, but my aunt loves to tease him about being old since he's the oldest of them. $5.25.
- Original LEGO USB camera for the RCX. Does work. $3.95.
Pictures of the keyboard (without note):
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And camera (it has a LONG cable as it was designed to be put on mobile robots):
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And now for some sad news. Two of my tech things have died today. One very important to me.
#1. My 250MB ATAPI Zip drive. It acted like a 100MB Zip drive, but worked great until last week or so.
I had it running on a SYBA PCIe IDE/SATA x1 card over an ENLabs PCIe x1-x1 riser. It shared the IDE bus along with my TSSTCorp CD/DVD combo drive.
Last week, I started having weird problems with it - it would click incessantly, show a red light upon bootup, my card's BIOS initialization would take a minute or more (instead of the 5 seconds it used to). My system still booted, but once it did my Zip drive did not appear in Windows.
Well, my parents went to Europe for their anniversary (and my dad's 40th birthday) and I did a 3-day sleepover at my mom's parents. We also went strawberry picking (we got lots of strawberries and made most of them chocolate strawberries). I had set the PC to F@H and BOINC while I was gone, and got back to the PC off.
I was a bit confused, but wasn't too concerned - power-outs were common right now due to it being summer with lots of people running their ACs and the grid being overstrained. So I hit the power button and then went to use the bathroom.
Came back to it booting... again. It POST beeped again.
So I sat down to watch what it did. As soon as it got to the part where my PCIe card's BIOS initialized it would reboot.
I was a bit confused, but disabled CSM to see if that fixed it. I got to the Windows-is-booting part but right towards the end of the boot process it would restart, just like before.
So I shut down and pulled the Zip drive. A messy uninstall - loose cables, a gaping hole in the front - but it was out. Booted up and yep, that was it. PC runs just fine.
That was #1. Not very important to me as I wanted to swap it for a 750MB ATAPI drive at some point (rare, I know, but I still want one).

#2 is very dear to me. It's my Nintendo 2DS. The original, black-and-red, slate model.
I loved that 2DS. I got it in 2015 along with Pokemon X. I beat Pokemon X on it, I beat Bravely Default on it. I spent about 200 hours using the thing.
And then I stuck it in a drawer once we got a Switch in 2017 since I wanted to play Breath of the Wild, and forgot it existed.
But recently, I decided to pick it up again. I mostly use my New 3DS XL (formerly my dad's, he gave it to me after we got the Switch) since he got Bravely Second as software download not a game card, and that's where I beat Sun (and later Moon, but Moon only to give myself Lunala). But Sun is not my game. X is my game. It was the first Pokemon game I ever played and it's one of my favorites.
So when I picked up X and Y again to get all the Legendaries and Mythicals, I decided to replay Pokemon X only on the 2DS. Only for nostalgia. (I had to make a new save as I needed to choose a different starter Pokemon to get the last two Pokemon I needed).
So I started playing Pokemon X on there again. I got to the second of 8 Gyms, and was making my way to the third. Currently at my grandparent's house.
It was the last day we were there (today) and I was bringing my stuff out to our van. Holding both my 2DS and New 3DS XL.
I set both consoles down on the trunk edge, put my suitcase in the car, grab my New 3DS XL, and hit the "close trunk" button (it's a 2011 Nissan Quest SL). I walk away to go back inside to make sure I didn't miss anything. I'm going up the steps when I hear the trunk fail to close and open again.
I go over and see I forgot to pick up my 2DS. I grab it, and go inside, not worried as the trunk stops at basically everything. It's not very strong either.

Fast-forward to 3 hours later, at home. I'm also getting all of the Mega Evolution-capable Pokemon, and one is Scizor. To get Scizor you take a Scyther, trade it with someone while it's holding a Metal Coat, and then it evolves. So I grab my 2DS to trade to myself with and switch it on.
Instead of the Trainer battle I was in before, I'm greeted with the sight of 2 very dead LCD screens. Both are black with wonderful rainbow lights where they're cracked.
I was able to navigate the battle and save my game as the digitizer (the touch-screen part) still worked, but both screens are broken beyond repair.
It is possible to replace the screens (both screens are on one module as the console doesn't flip shut) with a $40 eBay purchase, and I've already taken apart the 2DS and removed the busted screens, but
I'm quite sad. This console has been with me since 2015 and despite me neglecting it for half of that time it's been amazing in the other half. Never freezing during gameplay, great battery life, comfortable in my small hands (and doesn't make a CLICK CLICK CLICK when you're opening it at night when you're not supposed to).

So yeah. Good news (thrift store finds) and bad (dead stuff).
Sorry for the long post that doesn't have too many interesting things. I'll have some fun stuff for you on Friday :)
 
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Nice OC.
Here is my 980 with a Thermalright 140 air cooler. Cinebench in at 50c.
That clock looks good! You must be on air conditioning for 50c under load.
Mine will run some benchmarks at 4.3 and boot to Windows at 4.4 with auto Vcore. It sure has potential, but I don't have liquid cooling - or AC ;)
 
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That clock looks good! You must be on air conditioning for 50c under load.
Mine will run some benchmarks at 4.3 and boot to Windows at 4.4 with auto Vcore. It sure has potential, but I don't have liquid cooling - or AC ;)
AC was on.
I can bench it at 4.6 on the chiller. It's a pretty decent sample.
 
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Tested a Matrox G200 and a ATI Rage Pro AGP in 3D games.

Note to self: Never EVER try to use a Rage Pro for anything 3D, or any usage besides testing, in general. It sucks. HARD. Matrox G200 is a much better alternative if you don't have anything else on hand.
 
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NFS Porsche 2000 literally looked a garbled mess and slow as hell, compared to a Matrox G200 8MB. Same went for High Stakes, and some 2D games flat out spit in my face, refusing to run on the ATI. That and it's literally incapable of displaying 1280x1024 (my current monitor's native resolution), and only goes up to 1024x768.
 
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NFS Porsche 2000 literally looked a garbled mess and slow as hell, compared to a Matrox G200 8MB. Same went for High Stakes, and some 2D games flat out spit in my face, refusing to run on the ATI. That and it's literally incapable of displaying 1280x1024 (my current monitor's native resolution), and only goes up to 1024x768.

Any chip on an AGP card that can't exceed 1024x758 is bollocks. Most of my cards from that era are gone, but I'm reasonably certain I had a Rage II PCI that could drive 1152x864. Or maybe it was a Rage 128...
 
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Any chip on an AGP card that can't exceed 1024x768 is bollocks. Most of my cards from that era are gone, but I'm reasonably certain I had a Rage II PCI that could drive 1152x864. Or maybe it was a Rage 128...
I don't know of any AGP cards that can not do 1600x1200. That resolution was part of the official spec. Pretty much anything below that was achievable.
 
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Just as I said. Trying anything higher than 1024x768 on that card will yield me a "OUT OF FREQUENCY" on my 20 inch Belinea LCD. Same monitor runs fine at its native 1280x1024 resolution with the mentioned Matrox G200 8MB AGP card.
 
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NFS Porsche 2000 literally looked a garbled mess and slow as hell, compared to a Matrox G200 8MB. Same went for High Stakes, and some 2D games flat out spit in my face, refusing to run on the ATI. That and it's literally incapable of displaying 1280x1024 (my current monitor's native resolution), and only goes up to 1024x768.

you complaining because an entry level card from 1997 does not work well with 1999-2000 era games? :wtf:

max video resolution is directly related to the amount of video RAM available, how much RAM has your card?
also buggy drivers could cause similar problems
 
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All datecodes are 1999 on the card though. As for VRAM, it appears to have 8MB, just like the Matrox G200.

As for drivers, I used ATI's drivers, at least the only ones I could find for it.
 
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All datecodes are 1999 on the card though. As for VRAM, it appears to have 8MB, just like the Matrox G200.

As for drivers, I used ATI's drivers, at least the only ones I could find for it.
The were a number of revisions of the same Rage Pro originally from 1997. It's just a much older and slower card than the G200, the Rage 128 is a better comparison.
 
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Worth 5 quid I think :)

933 Coppermine with 512MB of PC133

Need to check board chipset revision to see if i can stick a Tualatin in there...

Outside bit beat up but cleanable

Inside like new.

Think will stick a GF2 MX in there for now.
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Christmas came early guys, I'm getting a Rampage III E & i7 920 as a freebie! Tho the board has only two working memory channels, but thats enough for me :)
 

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Wow, I have one almost identical to that @Bungz
Guess I should check it out and see what it's running.......LOL
 
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New project is online :)
I tested Quake (DOS) in software mode with 36 CPUs from 1996 to 2004 at the most common video resolutions, from 320x200 to 1280x1024 to see what is needed to get 30 and 60 FPS on each one

Quake is a very famous game and for many reasons, first of all because it’s a good game, then because it started a successful serie; it was also one of the first games using a true 3D engine and it had a revolutionary look, at least for 1996.
The look in fact is the trigger that motivated me to do this benchmark “challenge”, because despite being available in many “sauces”, such as the famous 3D accelerated version “GLQuake” or various porting for other platforms, none of these versions preserves all the characteristics of the original, software rendered one.
In fact many think that visually the original version is also the best Quake version, and I tend to agree, but nobody seems to have truly explored what does it take (in terms of hardware requirements) to play it in software mode at higher resolutions and when exactly this became possible?

So, what I decided to do is test the game with the most common video resolutions to establish what are the hardware requirements to to play it at 30 and 60 frames per second.
Also, this will not be exactly the usual benchmark where you pick a set of CPUs and put the fastest on top of the chart; instead, what I decided to do is to structure the results based on the processor release date, so the challenge is not (only) who gets more fps but who has succeeded first to get the established amount.


Also made a video about it ;)
(although it does not include the complete list of results for time reasons)


Will attach the charts if you don't care about what I wrote and just want to see the numbers :D
 

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thank ya framebuffer for this extensive work !
 
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New project is online :)
I tested Quake (DOS) in software mode with 36 CPUs from 1996 to 2004 at the most common video resolutions, from 320x200 to 1280x1024 to see what is needed to get 30 and 60 FPS on each one




Also made a video about it ;)
(although it does not include the complete list of results for time reasons)


Will attach the charts if you don't care about what I wrote and just want to see the numbers :D
IIRC, QuakeGL ran 1600x1200 at 60fps on a Pentium 3 1ghz with a Radeon 9800. It's been a while but I'm very certain it was P3 & Athlon days were Quake1 60fps at high res became a thing.
 
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