Dell Workstation Owners Club

[Retrorockit]

I saw some posts that Win 11 won't support older CPUs (due to TPM 2.0 needed), and non UEFI BIOS.
I've also seen that it doesn't check for these in a VM environment.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I saw some posts that Win 11 won't support older CPUs (due to TPM 2.0 needed), and non UEFI BIOS.
I've also seen that it doesn't check for these in a VM environment.

These are artificial limitations. If you have a system that does not meet microsoft's rubbish requirements, you'll want to explore buying a license and getting a custom iso. Custom ISO's are being configured already(I'm using one) and will be made available shortly after official release. Utilities that will make a customized iso per user input will also be made.

Rest assured, options to remove microsoft's nit-wit limitations will be available.

If you'd like to do it now to try it out, follow the instructions found in the video below;

EDIT: Just an FYI, these instruction also work with the 22000.51 iso.

 

[crazydrve`]

Has anyone tried to convert a dell workstation, ie T5500 or T5600 to a smaller chassis?

 

[lexluthermiester]

Has anyone tried to convert a dell workstation, ie T5500 or T5600 to a smaller chassis?

Considering the motherboards of both are ATX form-factor boards, it is possible. Both take standard ATX PSU connections. You're gonna have problems with the front panel connectors and buttons though.

But why would you want too?

 

[crazydrve`]

Considering the motherboards of both are ATX form-factor boards, it is possible. Both take standard ATX PSU connections. You're gonna have problems with the front panel connectors and buttons though.

But why would you want too?

HI @lexluthermiester

I have a refurb Dell T620 now and I want to keep the T5500 and T5600, but they are big and dont need the towers they are in, just the system itself. I don't have a lot of room and my rack is full.

just curious if anyone has tried.

 

[lexluthermiester]

HI @lexluthermiester

I have a refurb Dell T620 now and I want to keep the T5500 and T5600, but they are big and dont need the towers they are in, just the system itself. I don't have a lot of room and my rack is full.

just curious if anyone has tried.

Never done it myself. I'm sure it's been done though. Likely a very involved effort though.

 

[crazydrve`]

Never done it myself. I'm sure it's been done though. Likely a very involved effort though.

Yea, I may try it just for the heck of it. the systems still work, just dont need them in big case.

@lexluthermiester btw do you know if the servers like the dell t620 can use non dell raid controllers?

 

[lexluthermiester]

@lexluthermiester btw do you know if the servers like the dell t620 can use non dell raid controllers?

No idea. Can't think of any reason why not. Dell doesn't do that whole whitelisting nonsense like HP so as long as you have drivers, you should be good to go.

 

[crazydrve`]

No idea. Can't think of any reason why not. Dell doesn't do that whole whitelisting nonsense like HP so as long as you have drivers, you should be good to go.

OK, thanks, just must be something I am not seeing.

 

[lexluthermiester]

OK, thanks, just must be something I am not seeing.

What card is not working for you? Model number and/or pictures would be helpful.

There might be a boot-rom on the card that you need to enable in the BIOS.

 

[crazydrve`]

What card is not working for you? Model number and/or pictures would be helpful.

There might be a boot-rom on the card that you need to enable in the BIOS.

oh thanks, I didn't think to check that. FYI, here is the card.

Areca ARC-1882ix-12 12+4 port PCIe 2.0 (X8) SAS/SATA 6Gb/s Dual Core RAID Controller. 4GB Cache. No Cables.@ SCSI4ME.COM

 

[lexluthermiester]

oh thanks, I didn't think to check that. FYI, here is the card.

Areca ARC-1882ix-12 12+4 port PCIe 2.0 (X8) SAS/SATA 6Gb/s Dual Core RAID Controller. 4GB Cache. No Cables.@ SCSI4ME.COM

That card should work. It's got a boot rom and you'll need to enable it if you want to boot an OS from it. Setting that up should be easy enough.

 

[Retrorockit]

I know almost nothing about Virtual Machines. I'm looking into reducing the number of active cores for overclocking/retro gaming purposes.
I can get Throttlestop to apply itself to only 2 cores for overclocking. What would happen if a 2 core VM was created, and the other cores weren't even booted to an OS. What would be the state of those cores? Is this even possible, or must all hardware resources be accounted for in the VM setup? Maybe use a lightweight OS of some kind for the rest of the hardware.

 

[crazydrve`]

That card should work. It's got a boot rom and you'll need to enable it if you want to boot an OS from it. Setting that up should be easy enough.

Thanks, I don't need to boot an OS, Just need data access, going to try changing bios for the card.

Thanks again

 

[BartPC24]

Hello,

I`m wondering about buying this card to my T5400, which is on 2x XEON E5420 along with 32GB of ECC RAM.

JEYI SK16 M.2 NVME SSD 3.0 NGFF PCI-E Expansion Card X4 Adapter B Key M Key MSATA Three-disk Version add on Card Suppor PCI Express 3.0 3 in 1 Dual 12v+3.3v

Only US$14.99, buy best jeyi sk16 m.2 nvme ssd 3.0 ngff pci-e expansion card x4 adapter b key m key msata three-disk version add on card suppor pci express 3.0 3 in 1 dual 12v+3.3v sale online store at wholesale price.

www.banggood.com

Does it make sense ?. Would I profit from having it, with corresponding NVME drive ?

TIA for responses

BR,

BartPC24

 

[lexluthermiester]

Hello,

I`m wondering about buying this card to my T5400, which is on 2x XEON E5420 along with 32GB of ECC RAM.

JEYI SK16 M.2 NVME SSD 3.0 NGFF PCI-E Expansion Card X4 Adapter B Key M Key MSATA Three-disk Version add on Card Suppor PCI Express 3.0 3 in 1 Dual 12v+3.3v

Only US$14.99, buy best jeyi sk16 m.2 nvme ssd 3.0 ngff pci-e expansion card x4 adapter b key m key msata three-disk version add on card suppor pci express 3.0 3 in 1 dual 12v+3.3v sale online store at wholesale price.

www.banggood.com

Does it make sense ?. Would I profit from having it, with corresponding NVME drive ?

TIA for responses

BR,

BartPC24

No idea. If you were asking about the T5500 or T5600, the answer is yes, that card will work fine. A T5400 is just a bit old for such a card. I might work, it might not. Windows will see it and install drivers for it so any drives connected will be seen once in Windows. But the BIOS is another story. Not sure that card is bootable. You'd be better off staying with SATA SSD's

 

[scoutingwraith]

For the T3600 i used to own i had very good experience with the PERC Controller cards. Currently one of them is sitting in my old Ivy Bridge system chugging along 4xSAS drives

 

[crazydrve`]

Has anyone experienced a new Dell monitor using hdmi and no sound output?

 

[BartPC24]

No idea. If you were asking about the T5500 or T5600, the answer is yes, that card will work fine. A T5400 is just a bit old for such a card. I might work, it might not. Windows will see it and install drivers for it so any drives connected will be seen once in Windows. But the BIOS is another story. Not sure that card is bootable. You'd be better off staying with SATA SSD's

But if I`ll setup this card, as an USB-HDD or else - don`t you think that may work as well ?

 

[lexluthermiester]

But if I`ll setup this card, as an USB-HDD or else - don`t you think that may work as well ?

I'm not sure I follow. What does a USB HDD have to do with that card?

 

[crazydrve`]

Does anyone know if servers can only handle certain pcie cards?

 

[lexluthermiester]

Does anyone know if servers can only handle certain pcie cards?

Perhaps it might be most useful for you to be asking these questions over in the Dell support forums.

Dell Community | DELL Technologies

www.dell.com

The problems you're having and questions you're asking are better asked there.

Not to make you feel unwelcome, however this is a workstation thread, not a server thread.

 

[hat]

Okay, so I'm now taking a serious look at getting something like this for my apartment, so I can have another computer that visitors could use. By "something like this" I mean a good old cheap used workstation that has enough CPU grunt, memory, and graphics power to play at least some basic games. Surely a graphics card could be added later, if need be...

I know the "Dell T5500" is mentioned a lot, but it runs on x58 hardware. I'd prefer at least sandy-bridge era hardware if possible and the price is right, because it looks like the lack of AVX might finally be starting to cause some problems for some games... but it's not a requirement. I don't know a whole lot about the used workstation market, I just know of a few model numbers.

 

[PaulieG]

I'm an absolute noob with workstations, but I'm

Okay, so I'm now taking a serious look at getting something like this for my apartment, so I can have another computer that visitors could use. By "something like this" I mean a good old cheap used workstation that has enough CPU grunt, memory, and graphics power to play at least some basic games. Surely a graphics card could be added later, if need be...

I know the "Dell T5500" is mentioned a lot, but it runs on x58 hardware. I'd prefer at least sandy-bridge era hardware if possible and the price is right, because it looks like the lack of AVX might finally be starting to cause some problems for some games... but it's not a requirement. I don't know a whole lot about the used workstation market, I just know of a few model numbers.

I'm looking to put something together also for similar reasons, plus running WCG 24/7. Because of WCG, I'd like to run dual cpu's. Total noob on workstations though. Any advice is greatly appreciated.

 

[hat]

from what I understand, it would probably be best to stick with building Ryzen systems for WCG. IIRC my old overclocked i7 920 could do around 4000PPD or so, maybe a little more... a paltry sum today.