XMP I ___realtime clock toggeling GSKILL TridentZ RGB 4000@ASUS Z590-E wifi ____further/deeper adjustments

[plastiscɧ]

aight guys, greetings again!
this time i have a quite (maybe) crispy question!

here are the stats so far trying to describe the present state as good and precisely as i can:

When i run XMP II profile i adjust the ram to 19-19-39 2T 700 as recomended by the manufacurer! fair enough.
I have an option in XMP I profile to enable real-time swapping between different clocks. here the present scenario:

15-15-36 1T 374 ________ and 19-19-39 2T 700 they swap depending on requested load or task.

Now my question:

shall i leave the above state alone without changes?

or SHALL i run AUTO swapping?
or SHALL i run both 1T swapping? _________(both 2T is not an option. CPUz never showed me this state tho)

i need a hint please

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
I'm sure the default xmp is not great and numbers show it
DRAM Refresh Interval 65535 is max
DRAM REF Cycle Time 350 or as low as you can post too.

 

[plastiscɧ]

erm??!!??

cant follow u, cus i have no idea what u mean in general. cus my initial question is not mirrored in your answer.
fair! numberfinetuning is my next constructionside. be sure

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
You'll find those timing settings in bios these are basic deeper adjustments to perform better.
N1 or n2.. well n2 will along with xmp2 will alter secondary timings automatically used so xmp2 may operate/ perform better.

 

[plastiscɧ]

so u mean i shall NOT use that toggeling option?
and XMP II instead

 

[ThrashZone]

so u mean i shall NOT use that toggeling option?
and XMP II instead

Hi,
XMP 2 can and should be tried especially on higher frequencies with N1 as well
Here's one I use for 4k mhz

 

[plastiscɧ]

aight, mate i ll take a pictue of this and will adjust it this way. i'll keep u informed!

thanks a lot so far, really apreciate your help!

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Be sure to have system images
Memory tweaking can corrupt the os pretty easily.

 

[basco]

@ThrashZone
sorry if i am wrong but isn´t vccsa @ 1,472 volts a little to much? maybe vccio too?

i would think that´s some auto voltage?

 

[ThrashZone]

@ThrashZone
sorry if i am wrong but isn´t vccsa @ 1,472 volts a little to much? maybe vccio too?

i would think that´s some auto voltage?

Hi,
A lot lower than hedt input voltage/ vccin which runs 2.0v if let on auto on high clocks which I limit to 1.95v usually llc-6 which comet lake or z series in general don't have an intake vccin listing.
But yes vccsa was on auto same as vccio one can alway limit those but at the time I was just on auto with most settings temperatures weren't an issue but yes both can be limited to vcore max if not a little lower.

 

[plastiscɧ]

Hi,
XMP 2 can and should be tried especially on higher frequencies with N1 as well
Here's one I use for 4k mhz

hi mate,

your numbers unpleasently do not work out well.
maybe they are wrong for my RAM or they are too tight?!
Tried it in several charges to focus the area he does not like but in any is something its not happy with

serveral numbers from the motherboard say me fail: 71 or 55 or it just says NO i start completely new and i must press F1 to BIOS again (safe mode after AC/DC fail). but he does not come up to the desktop.


pls have a look to this. is it an "alternative"? i downloaded the program and thats what it tells me tho

@ThrashZone

aight, these are the results i could realize leaning on your numbers and pictures so far..

@tCL _16_ it did not like it and a _15_ not as well

any suggestions?

 

[plastiscɧ]

@ThrashZone

hey.
so i had more time now to realize your suggestion. and it worked out well! what you think of this performance profile?

i had to go my own way but u helped just alot

and i want to say TY very much.

 

[plastiscɧ]

@eidairaman1

hi ho!
may i ask u a question? and maybe for help. just if u are not too occupied.


could you review this post of me? are there improvements i could do with your expertise on tech know how?!
i want to overclock my RAM in general and i am asking myself if there is more to archive with my hardware and different settings. i want to tighten it more.
the hints i got so far were good for my impression and worked out very well.
is there another path i could go to set up to a different maximum?
just as second opinion.

would be very cool if u could have a look on it. and maybe some changes for the good.

 

[eidairaman1]

@eidairaman1

hi ho!
may i ask u a question? and maybe for help. just if u are not too occupied.


could you review this post of me? are there improvements i could do with your expertise on tech know how?!
i want to overclock my RAM in general and i am asking myself if there is more to archive with my hardware and different settings. i want to tighten it more.
the hints i got so far were good for my impression and worked out very well.
is there another path i could go to set up to a different maximum?
just as second opinion.

would be very cool if u could have a look on it. and maybe some changes for the good.

Start with the xmp profiles, write those values down then adjust them down 1 tick, verify stability. If you want higher clock than XMP provides on the ram, the fsb will need adjusting and the timings loosened and voltage increased.
Go to GSkill website and verify the next higher Dual Channel Kits memory timings.
I'm on Vishera still with a 2133 Kit DOCP/AMP to 2400 with tighter than Trident Memory timings with volts at 1.6/1.65. Look at my Sig Rig.

 

[plastiscɧ]

okay:

shall i set to 2133++ or 4000?

i found this.

Start with the xmp profiles, write those values down then adjust them down 1 tick, verify stability. If you want higher clock than XMP provides on the ram, the fsb will need adjusting and the timings loosened and voltage increased.
Go to GSkill website and verify the next higher Dual Channel Kits memory timings.
I'm on Vishera still with a 2133 Kit DOCP/AMP to 2400 with tighter than Trident Memory timings with volts at 1.6/1.65. Look at my Sig Rig.

i learned so much about overclocking a CPU but the RAM is still a bit mystery to me

 

[eidairaman1]

okay:

shall i set to 2133++ or 4000?

View attachment 207784

i found this.


i learned so much about overclocking a CPU but the RAM is still a bit mystery to me

Im on DDR3

Get CPU-Z and hwinfo 64 and see what exact ram kit you have, then find the next higher clocked kit that matches yours (by module count, density such as 16GB etc) or look at sticker on the ram.

Desktop Memory (U-DIMM/CK-DIMM) - G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd.

Designed for performance, G.SKILL desktop memory is engineered from hand-selected components and rigorously tested for stability and compatibility.

www.gskill.com

 

[plastiscɧ]

Im on DDR3

Get CPU-Z and hwinfo 64 and see what exact ram kit you have, then find the next higher clocked kit that matches yours (by module count, density such as 16GB etc) or look at sticker on the ram.

Desktop Memory (U-DIMM/CK-DIMM) - G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd.

Designed for performance, G.SKILL desktop memory is engineered from hand-selected components and rigorously tested for stability and compatibility.

www.gskill.com

u just gave me the last missing piece to set up all right. the tool gave me last information to evalue which setting is the best and the timings are now not as tight as i thought but they match now perfectly together.
listed voltages etc. pp. made my decision easier not to go to the red borderline, instead i found a balance with increased numbers, performance and not frying my hardware.
i was quite far in my research but sometimes you just stuck in lack of knowledge how to proceed the right way.

thank u sir!

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Nice job having to tweak settings is normal kind of the hair pulling fun lol

Use read with this app and post what it shows on your set my 3600c16 sets are samsung b-die I'm pretty sure yours are too
Thaiphoon Burner - Official Support Website

If you pick up aida64 extream it can show you what latency you're running on at 16-17-17 now probably not to bad
Cheap keys can be had on ebay for 4.us...

 

[eidairaman1]

u just gave me the last missing piece to set up all right. the tool gave me last information to evalue which setting is the best and the timings are now not as tight as i thought but they match now perfectly together.
listed voltages etc. pp. made my decision easier not to go to the red borderline, instead i found a balance with increased numbers, performance and not frying my hardware.
i was quite far in my research but sometimes you just stuck in lack of knowledge how to proceed the right way.

thank u sir!

I would just lower each timing till I got a BSOD, then i would run unigen valley/heaven benchmarks, if they were stable then i would just game

 

[plastiscɧ]

I would just lower each timing till I got a BSOD, then i would run unigen valley/heaven benchmarks, if they were stable then i would just game

haven't seen a BSOD since a long time.

the MoBo just tells me __55__71__ but does not go through the further boot process anymore. i could not find out many different options, tho.

Hi,
Nice job having to tweak settings is normal kind of the hair pulling fun lol

Use read with this app and post what it shows on your set my 3600c16 sets are samsung b-die I'm pretty sure yours are too
Thaiphoon Burner - Official Support Website

If you pick up aida64 extream it can show you what latency you're running on at 16-17-17 now probably not to bad
Cheap keys can be had on ebay for 4.us...

and to be honest this program overwhelms me a little. in foreign language you have to click through for a long time until you understand it correctly.

my english is not the worst but my mothers thounge is way better

would be nice to find that heck bios setting to switch off the blockade

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
That's a nice set 4k mhz at only 1.35v

But yeah don't worry about using this utility for more than information you just provided
AIDA64 extream though you should look into getting a cheap license so you can use it while tuning and lowering your latency as you go.

 

[plastiscɧ]

AIDA64 extream

going to download it. and having a look to it

Hi,
That's a nice set 4k mhz at only 1.35v

But yeah don't worry about using this utility for more than information you just provided
AIDA64 extream though you should look into getting a cheap license so you can use it while tuning and lowering your latency as you go.

bought a AIDA64 extreme for 0,81€. let me check a bit longer

AIDA64 extream

And now? :shrugg:

following your fellow texan in spirit, aka @eidairaman1 , 's advice, i now take the data of the other sets circled in red and transfer them to mine?!
4266 they clocked in any case! that I have already tried...
should I then transfer 1 to 1, or how do I proceed now?

okay, i think i am now in the whole picture... i scan now again. and according to these numbers i set the bios up. and hopefully it works well. but should be... why not?

@ThrashZone @eidairaman1

well guys this is the final result now. could not archieve more. but i guess its okayish

took me an entire day to learn the patterns of this kind of hardware. but without your scantools it would have never been become reality.

what u think about it?

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Use benchmarks to see if one is better than the other
Latency is pretty high so it needs more work you should be in the mid 40's 16-15-15 I'd switch that to 15-16-16

 

[plastiscɧ]

Hi,
Use benchmarks to see if one is better than the other
Latency is pretty high so it needs more work you should be in the mid 40's 16-15-15 I'd switch that to 15-16-16

mate i found two sheets they made me look like i saw santa claus in real:
it is not that easy! it took me more than one entire day. my motherboard scans the data in three cycles. if the last e.g. is wrong 9 minutes are wasted (error codes occur__55,71,5d__) and u begin from start. so exausting and annoying. at the beginning i played the lottery (in lack of knowledge). the sheets below take u, at least in a direction, where to go!

and u are right! i got nearly the same result! next time just tell me one week earlier!!

i am working on it!

 

[FireFox]

I am curious, what's the benefits running manual ram overclock over XMP?