Windows 11 General Discussion

[Deleted member 24505]

Mine has just installed 22000.71, fine no problems. I even bought a new key to use with my clean win 11 install too, figured why not.

 

[markobrian]

Not that I care, I'm riding on W11 insider on my daily driver anyway lol

Same as me

The upgrade from 10 seemed to have gone fine until I toggled the Windows HDR setting and received a blank screen that I was unable to fix, so it was either do a clean install of 10 again, or a clean install of 11, thankfully the clean install option worked seamlessly and I'm now installing the.75 update after updating to the .65 update a few days ago I've had no major issues since.

I can understand those who want to wait for the RTM version, but honestly this is just built on the already very stable (for me at least) latest Win10 build, so is very much a fully working OS as far as I'm concerned, unlike when I installed Windows Longhorn which was to become Windows Vista

 

[plastiscɧ]

Same as me

The upgrade from 10 seemed to have gone fine until I toggled the Windows HDR setting and received a blank screen that I was unable to fix, so it was either do a clean install of 10 again, or a clean install of 11, thankfully the clean install option worked seamlessly and I'm now installing the.75 update after updating to the .65 update a few days ago I've had no major issues since.

I can understand those who want to wait for the RTM version, but honestly this is just built on the already very stable (for me at least) latest Win10 build, so is very much a fully working OS as far as I'm concerned, unlike when I installed Windows Longhorn which was to become Windows Vista

correct! it is not a complete new thingi. it is at least a pimped 10.0.22000.xx

 

[markobrian]

Mine has just installed 22000.71, fine no problems. I even bought a new key to use with my clean win 11 install too, figured why not.

if it's the same machine and you just did an upgrade and want to do a clean install the product key works the same as Windows 10 and is tied to the hardware AFAIK

 

[windwhirl]

I can understand those who want to wait for the RTM version, but honestly this is just built on the already very stable (for me at least) latest Win10 build, so is very much a fully working OS as far as I'm concerned, unlike when I installed Windows Longhorn which was to become Windows Vista

As always, it's recommended to exercise caution, as in regularly backing things up as a minimum. Although Microsoft is building Windows 11 out of a relatively stable base, they're introducing changes to some core aspects of Windows, so things may break, and hard, in some specific/exotic configurations (such as your HDR issue).

 

[plastiscɧ]

well. i hope u tighten your seatbelt while driving as well!
some ppl are kinda ambivalent in many things.

just joking!
@windwhirl

 

[Space Lynx]

As always, it's recommended to exercise caution, as in regularly backing things up as a minimum. Although Microsoft is building Windows 11 out of a relatively stable base, they're introducing changes to some core aspects of Windows, so things may break, and hard, in some specific/exotic configurations (such as your HDR issue).

not to mention those extra telemetry algorithms, nom nom nom M$

 

[markobrian]

As always, it's recommended to exercise caution, as in regularly backing things up as a minimum. Although Microsoft is building Windows 11 out of a relatively stable base, they're introducing changes to some core aspects of Windows, so things may break, and hard, in some specific/exotic configurations (such as your HDR issue).

Of course.

I wouldn't recommend it on a PC that someone does work on, though mine is just for gaming and browsing mostly, wiping the C drive is a relatively trivial thing, most of my games and documents are on other drives or in the cloud, so aside from drivers and some key programs it takes me about an hour or so to get things back to where I need them if the shit hits the fan, so-to-speak

not to mention those extra telemetry algorithms, nom nom nom M$

Are there any extra ones compared to 10? the options seem pretty much the same as the ones in 10, turn them all off, if you want to go the extra mile I'm sure shutup10 should work on 11 for the most part and likely there will be a Windows 11 equivalent along very soon.

 

[windwhirl]

Are there any extra ones compared to 10? the options seem pretty much the same as the ones in 10, turn them all off, if you want to go the extra mile I'm sure shutup10 should work on 11 for the most part and likely there will be a Windows 11 equivalent along very soon.

To receive insider builds through Windows Update, you're required to have all the telemetry enabled. These are cumulative updates so I'm not sure the requirement applies to them too, though.

 

[plastiscɧ]

To receive insider builds, you're required to have all the telemetry enabled. These are cumulative updates so I'm not sure the requirement applies to them too, though.

if u want. i upload an official german, english version ofc, into my drive. then u are not that victim anymore by downloading it. the telemetry can be switched off to nearly 100% then.

 

[markobrian]

To receive insider builds, you're required to have all the telemetry enabled. These are cumulative updates so I'm not sure the requirement applies to them too, though.

I'm not on the insider program, I just downloaded an ISO, though was able to disable all the usual stuff upon install

if u want. i upload an official german, english version ofc, into my drive. then u are not that victim anymore by downloading it. the telemetry can be switched off to nearly 100% then.

This is likely similar to the ISO I downloaded.

 

[plastiscɧ]

I'm not on the insider program, I just downloaded an ISO, though was able to disable all the usual stuff upon install


This is likely similar to the ISO I downloaded.

ye. ours is the summerrelease. the USA gets it in fall then.
the telemetry-killer was my suggested program right?

 

[Space Lynx]

Are there any extra ones compared to 10? the options seem pretty much the same as the ones in 10, turn them all off, if you want to go the extra mile I'm sure shutup10 should work on 11 for the most part and likely there will be a Windows 11 equivalent along very soon.

I imagine there are a lot of hidden ones users can't access.

 

[plastiscɧ]

I imagine there are a lot of hidden ones users can't access.

i knew it. u escaped from the matrix and u try now telling us the real truth...

 

[windwhirl]

I imagine there are a lot of hidden ones users can't access.

Well, officially, there's a minimum of telemetry that cannot be disabled. But most if not all of it can be disabled through tools like ShutUp10 or firewall rules.

if u want. i upload an official german, english version ofc, into my drive. then u are not that victim anymore by downloading it. the telemetry can be switched off to nearly 100% then.

I don't really care much one way or the other, aside from being given the option.

And FTR, cumulative updates are different from builds. Builds are considered completely different versions of Windows and are installed as such, hence why they normally take so long (15 or more minutes for the offline part of the install, compared to 3 or less minutes for these cumulative updates)

 

[plastiscɧ]

And FTR, cumulative updates are different from builds. Builds are considered completely different versions of Windows and are installed as such, hence why they normally take so long (15 or more minutes for the offline part of the install, compared to 3 or less minutes for these cumulative updates)

i guess theres a misunderstanding then. the data i offered u are 5GB huge.

 

[windwhirl]

i guess theres a misunderstanding then. the data i offered u are 4,7GB huge.

I'm just talking about the builds and updates as they're delivered to a machine through Windows Update. Other methods (such as installing from ISOs) are not to be concerned in the requirements I talked about.

Updated my previous comment to clarify that.

 

[plastiscɧ]

I'm just talking about the builds and updates as they're delivered to a machine through Windows Update. Other methods (such as installing from ISOs) are not to be concerned in the requirements I talked about.

Updated my previous comment to clarify that.

fair enough! i got it.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Not that I care, I'm riding on W11 insider on my daily driver anyway lol

WOW! You're ballzy!

22000.71 is out

regex:[2-9]\d{4}\. - Browse known builds - UUP dump

Weird, I thought I read that the next point release was going to be 22000.81. But ok...

 

[windwhirl]

WOW! You're ballzy!

To be fair, there's nothing critical here. And I do have Veeam running a full backup every week (plus I have a 365 subscription which gives me 1 TB of cloud space, might as well use it)

I would never dare do this with my work computer though.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I am still convinced that it will take a while before i decide to install it.

Do you not have a spare hard drive? Would be easy to experiment of you do..

 

[theFOoL]

WoW

 

[windwhirl]

WoW

View attachment 208251

Yeah, that's about normal.

 

[theFOoL]

Yeah, that's about normal.

So what if I were to delete that Folder via a Linux USB?

 

[windwhirl]

So what if I were to delete that Folder via a Linux USB?

Nothing happens, per se. It's just a folder where Windows dumps the files required to roll back build updates. This only applies to Insider builds and when you perform feature upgrades on normal Windows update channels (say, if you want to roll back to 20H2 from 21H1), AFAIK.

You might want to keep it around for a while if you plan to roll back to Windows 10 or whatever without doing a clean install, but even then I think Windows deletes it by itself after 10 days or so (not sure if it depends on Storage Sense being enabled or not)