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You can just delete that folder if you're not going back to what you had before.
You can just delete that folder if you're not going back to what you had before.
System Name | BoX-Server | 775PC |
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Processor | I3 3.5GHZ (3150) | Modded Xeon E5450 (OC @3.60) |
Motherboard | ASRock B85M-ITX | ASUS P5Q-EM |
Cooling | OEZM HSK | 120MM Heatsink (2-FANs) |
Memory | 8GB DDR3 (2x4GB) | 8GB DDR2 (4x2GB) |
Video Card(s) | Onboard | NVIDIA Quadro K2200 4GB |
Storage | 120GB SSD 1TB WD | 120GB SSD 1TB Seagate 500GB HDD << |
Display(s) | DELL 17" LCD 1280x1024 | ASUS 24" LCD IPS |
Case | CoolerMaster 110 | DIYPC N1e-SPORT |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard |
Power Supply | EVGA 550WATT | Rosewill 530WATT |
Mouse | Input-Director| RoseWill FUSION C40 |
Keyboard | Input-Director | RoseWill FUSION |
Software | WiN1124H2/WiN11ET |
Get a partition utility(AOMEI is my favorite) and set the drive as "Active". The update likely removed the boot flag for the drive..Well crap the update crapped over my Windows 7 SSD "None bootable now" tried my WiN7 PE
Use bootable windows ISO USB and start recovery, you may need to perform some cmd prompts to get it booting again, search for restore windows bootloader, I have done it a number of times in the past when the turd hit the fan most times if the OS is still present on the disk you can restoreWell crap the update crapped over my Windows 7 SSD "None bootable now" tried my WiN7 PE
The problem with that method is that Windows recovery will only repair the primary installation, it would do nothing for his Windows 7 drive.Use bootable windows ISO USB and start recovery, you may need to perform some cmd prompts to get it booting again, search for restore windows bootloader, I have done it a number of times in the past when the turd hit the fan most times if the OS is still present on the disk you can restore
System Name | °( ఠ ͟ʖ ఠ)° |
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Processor | Intel | i7 _ 11700K | @ ~ 5GHz all | cooling ~ Thermal Grizzly CARBONAUT |
Motherboard | Asus | ROG Strix -- Z 590-E |
Cooling | Asus | ROG Ryujin 240 2* _Noctua F PPC °3000 | 4+1* _beQuiet_ Silent/Light Wings 3 °2200 |
Memory | G Skill | Trident Z *RGB @ 4000_ | _15-15-15-36_ | |
Video Card(s) | Asus | ROG Strix -- RTX 3070Ti_ #OC Edition |
Storage | INTENSO 250GB *1, 500GB*1 | Samsung EVO 860 / 970 EVO plus| WDC WD40 | |
Display(s) | Alienware | AW3821DW _ 38" {3840*1600} wide - curved |
Case | be Quiet | DARK BASE PRO 900 --- _rev. 2 --- #Silver |
Audio Device(s) | Asus | ROG Throne - Qi_7.1 | LOGITECH_G560 Speaker (RGB) |
Power Supply | be Quiet | DARK Power PRO 12 __ 1200W *titanium |
Mouse | Razer | NAGA Trinity (19 buttons) |
Keyboard | Razer | Huntsman V2 analog | Razer Goliathus (RGB) black |
VR HMD | Razer | Kraken Ultimate HEADSET __7.1 THX ____| DX RACER - Gaming Leather Chair_____ VR?? is odd! |
Software | Windows 11 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | See signature URL |
do it via the systemsettings in the datasection. otherwise there persisting rests of data u cant delete. registry etc.You can just delete that folder if you're not going back to what you had before.
this i mean. not just kick it
Fair enough. I never do "Upgrades".. So that's good to know..do it via the systemsettings in the datasection. otherwise there persisting rests of data u cant delete. registry etc.
System Name | °( ఠ ͟ʖ ఠ)° |
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Processor | Intel | i7 _ 11700K | @ ~ 5GHz all | cooling ~ Thermal Grizzly CARBONAUT |
Motherboard | Asus | ROG Strix -- Z 590-E |
Cooling | Asus | ROG Ryujin 240 2* _Noctua F PPC °3000 | 4+1* _beQuiet_ Silent/Light Wings 3 °2200 |
Memory | G Skill | Trident Z *RGB @ 4000_ | _15-15-15-36_ | |
Video Card(s) | Asus | ROG Strix -- RTX 3070Ti_ #OC Edition |
Storage | INTENSO 250GB *1, 500GB*1 | Samsung EVO 860 / 970 EVO plus| WDC WD40 | |
Display(s) | Alienware | AW3821DW _ 38" {3840*1600} wide - curved |
Case | be Quiet | DARK BASE PRO 900 --- _rev. 2 --- #Silver |
Audio Device(s) | Asus | ROG Throne - Qi_7.1 | LOGITECH_G560 Speaker (RGB) |
Power Supply | be Quiet | DARK Power PRO 12 __ 1200W *titanium |
Mouse | Razer | NAGA Trinity (19 buttons) |
Keyboard | Razer | Huntsman V2 analog | Razer Goliathus (RGB) black |
VR HMD | Razer | Kraken Ultimate HEADSET __7.1 THX ____| DX RACER - Gaming Leather Chair_____ VR?? is odd! |
Software | Windows 11 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | See signature URL |
there is a hidden folder as well. this included then. WINre$Fair enough. I never do "Upgrades".. So that's good to know..
Right click drive, disk cleanup same thing?do it via the systemsettings in the datasection. otherwise there persisting rests of data u cant delete. registry etc.
this i mean. not just kick it
System Name | °( ఠ ͟ʖ ఠ)° |
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Processor | Intel | i7 _ 11700K | @ ~ 5GHz all | cooling ~ Thermal Grizzly CARBONAUT |
Motherboard | Asus | ROG Strix -- Z 590-E |
Cooling | Asus | ROG Ryujin 240 2* _Noctua F PPC °3000 | 4+1* _beQuiet_ Silent/Light Wings 3 °2200 |
Memory | G Skill | Trident Z *RGB @ 4000_ | _15-15-15-36_ | |
Video Card(s) | Asus | ROG Strix -- RTX 3070Ti_ #OC Edition |
Storage | INTENSO 250GB *1, 500GB*1 | Samsung EVO 860 / 970 EVO plus| WDC WD40 | |
Display(s) | Alienware | AW3821DW _ 38" {3840*1600} wide - curved |
Case | be Quiet | DARK BASE PRO 900 --- _rev. 2 --- #Silver |
Audio Device(s) | Asus | ROG Throne - Qi_7.1 | LOGITECH_G560 Speaker (RGB) |
Power Supply | be Quiet | DARK Power PRO 12 __ 1200W *titanium |
Mouse | Razer | NAGA Trinity (19 buttons) |
Keyboard | Razer | Huntsman V2 analog | Razer Goliathus (RGB) black |
VR HMD | Razer | Kraken Ultimate HEADSET __7.1 THX ____| DX RACER - Gaming Leather Chair_____ VR?? is odd! |
Software | Windows 11 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | See signature URL |
no! i guess notRight click drive, disk cleanup same thing?
System Name | BoX-Server | 775PC |
---|---|
Processor | I3 3.5GHZ (3150) | Modded Xeon E5450 (OC @3.60) |
Motherboard | ASRock B85M-ITX | ASUS P5Q-EM |
Cooling | OEZM HSK | 120MM Heatsink (2-FANs) |
Memory | 8GB DDR3 (2x4GB) | 8GB DDR2 (4x2GB) |
Video Card(s) | Onboard | NVIDIA Quadro K2200 4GB |
Storage | 120GB SSD 1TB WD | 120GB SSD 1TB Seagate 500GB HDD << |
Display(s) | DELL 17" LCD 1280x1024 | ASUS 24" LCD IPS |
Case | CoolerMaster 110 | DIYPC N1e-SPORT |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard |
Power Supply | EVGA 550WATT | Rosewill 530WATT |
Mouse | Input-Director| RoseWill FUSION C40 |
Keyboard | Input-Director | RoseWill FUSION |
Software | WiN1124H2/WiN11ET |
System Name | °( ఠ ͟ʖ ఠ)° |
---|---|
Processor | Intel | i7 _ 11700K | @ ~ 5GHz all | cooling ~ Thermal Grizzly CARBONAUT |
Motherboard | Asus | ROG Strix -- Z 590-E |
Cooling | Asus | ROG Ryujin 240 2* _Noctua F PPC °3000 | 4+1* _beQuiet_ Silent/Light Wings 3 °2200 |
Memory | G Skill | Trident Z *RGB @ 4000_ | _15-15-15-36_ | |
Video Card(s) | Asus | ROG Strix -- RTX 3070Ti_ #OC Edition |
Storage | INTENSO 250GB *1, 500GB*1 | Samsung EVO 860 / 970 EVO plus| WDC WD40 | |
Display(s) | Alienware | AW3821DW _ 38" {3840*1600} wide - curved |
Case | be Quiet | DARK BASE PRO 900 --- _rev. 2 --- #Silver |
Audio Device(s) | Asus | ROG Throne - Qi_7.1 | LOGITECH_G560 Speaker (RGB) |
Power Supply | be Quiet | DARK Power PRO 12 __ 1200W *titanium |
Mouse | Razer | NAGA Trinity (19 buttons) |
Keyboard | Razer | Huntsman V2 analog | Razer Goliathus (RGB) black |
VR HMD | Razer | Kraken Ultimate HEADSET __7.1 THX ____| DX RACER - Gaming Leather Chair_____ VR?? is odd! |
Software | Windows 11 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | See signature URL |
is your partition-schematic GPT or MBR?Eh it still doesn't work. Doesn't have "Active" anywhere. I tried DiskPart and set the partition to active but no go. About to eat then should try one more thing...
System Name | System2 Blacknet , System1 Blacknet2 |
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Processor | System2 Threadripper 1920x, System1 2699 v3 |
Motherboard | System2 Asrock Fatality x399 Professional Gaming, System1 Asus X99-A |
Cooling | System2 Noctua NH-U14 TR4-SP3 Dual 140mm fans, System1 AIO |
Memory | System2 64GBS DDR4 3000, System1 32gbs DDR4 2400 |
Video Card(s) | System2 GTX 980Ti System1 GTX 970 |
Storage | System2 4x SSDs + NVme= 2.250TB 2xStorage Drives=8TB System1 3x SSDs=2TB |
Display(s) | 1x27" 1440 display 1x 24" 1080 display |
Case | System2 Some Nzxt case with soundproofing... |
Audio Device(s) | Asus Xonar U7 MKII |
Power Supply | System2 EVGA 750 Watt, System1 XFX XTR 750 Watt |
Mouse | Logitech G900 Chaos Spectrum |
Keyboard | Ducky |
Software | Archlinux, Manjaro, Win11 Ent 24h2 |
Benchmark Scores | It's linux baby! |
Processor | Intel i7 10700K |
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Motherboard | Asus ROG Maximus XII Hero |
Cooling | 2x Black Ice Nemesis GTX 480 - 1x Black Ice Nemesis GTX 420 - D5 VPP655P - 13x Corsair LL120 - LL140 |
Memory | 32GB G.SKILL Trident Z RGB 3600Hz |
Video Card(s) | EVGA GEFORCE RTX 3080 XC3 Ultra |
Storage | Samsung 970 EVO PLUS 500GB/1TB - WD Blue SN550 1TB - 2 X WD Blue 1TB - 3 X WD Black 1TB |
Display(s) | Asus ROG PG278QR 2560x1440 144Hz (Overclocked 165Hz )/ Samsung |
Case | Corsair Obsidian 1000D |
Audio Device(s) | I prefer Gaming-Headset |
Power Supply | Enermax MaxTytan 1250W 80+ Titanium |
Mouse | Logitech G502 spectrum |
Keyboard | Virtuis Advanced Gaming Keyboard ( Batboard ) |
Software | Windows 10 Enterprise/Windows 10 Pro/Windows 11 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | My PC runs FiFA |
Good idea, where can i get Windows 11?Do you not have a spare hard drive? Would be easy to experiment of you do..
Thanks for the link, I used to be part of the Insider but left like a year ago.
System Name | BoX-Server | 775PC |
---|---|
Processor | I3 3.5GHZ (3150) | Modded Xeon E5450 (OC @3.60) |
Motherboard | ASRock B85M-ITX | ASUS P5Q-EM |
Cooling | OEZM HSK | 120MM Heatsink (2-FANs) |
Memory | 8GB DDR3 (2x4GB) | 8GB DDR2 (4x2GB) |
Video Card(s) | Onboard | NVIDIA Quadro K2200 4GB |
Storage | 120GB SSD 1TB WD | 120GB SSD 1TB Seagate 500GB HDD << |
Display(s) | DELL 17" LCD 1280x1024 | ASUS 24" LCD IPS |
Case | CoolerMaster 110 | DIYPC N1e-SPORT |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard |
Power Supply | EVGA 550WATT | Rosewill 530WATT |
Mouse | Input-Director| RoseWill FUSION C40 |
Keyboard | Input-Director | RoseWill FUSION |
Software | WiN1124H2/WiN11ET |
System Name | °( ఠ ͟ʖ ఠ)° |
---|---|
Processor | Intel | i7 _ 11700K | @ ~ 5GHz all | cooling ~ Thermal Grizzly CARBONAUT |
Motherboard | Asus | ROG Strix -- Z 590-E |
Cooling | Asus | ROG Ryujin 240 2* _Noctua F PPC °3000 | 4+1* _beQuiet_ Silent/Light Wings 3 °2200 |
Memory | G Skill | Trident Z *RGB @ 4000_ | _15-15-15-36_ | |
Video Card(s) | Asus | ROG Strix -- RTX 3070Ti_ #OC Edition |
Storage | INTENSO 250GB *1, 500GB*1 | Samsung EVO 860 / 970 EVO plus| WDC WD40 | |
Display(s) | Alienware | AW3821DW _ 38" {3840*1600} wide - curved |
Case | be Quiet | DARK BASE PRO 900 --- _rev. 2 --- #Silver |
Audio Device(s) | Asus | ROG Throne - Qi_7.1 | LOGITECH_G560 Speaker (RGB) |
Power Supply | be Quiet | DARK Power PRO 12 __ 1200W *titanium |
Mouse | Razer | NAGA Trinity (19 buttons) |
Keyboard | Razer | Huntsman V2 analog | Razer Goliathus (RGB) black |
VR HMD | Razer | Kraken Ultimate HEADSET __7.1 THX ____| DX RACER - Gaming Leather Chair_____ VR?? is odd! |
Software | Windows 11 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | See signature URL |
again. it is an OFFICIAL summerelaese in europe. it is not allowed in our country to link illegal stuff as wellDang Germany and there hacks lol - At least nowadays Germans can speak English. My last name is German but can I speak it... No but I wish "Honnoll but here they spell it with Honnel / Honnull ha (Just a funny thing on my past at school)
System Name | CyberPowerPC ET8070 |
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Processor | Intel Core i5-10400F |
Motherboard | Gigabyte B460M DS3H AC-Y1 |
Memory | 2 x Crucial Ballistix 8GB DDR4-3000 |
Video Card(s) | MSI Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super |
Storage | Boot: Intel OPTANE SSD P1600X Series 118GB M.2 PCIE |
Display(s) | Dell P2416D (2560 x 1440) |
Power Supply | EVGA 500W1 (modified to have two bridge rectifiers) |
Software | Windows 11 Home |
System Name | Ghetto Rigs z490|x99|Acer 17 Nitro 7840hs/ 5600c40-2x16/ 4060/ 1tb acer stock m.2/ 4tb sn850x |
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Processor | 10900k w/Optimus Foundation | 5930k w/Black Noctua D15 |
Motherboard | z490 Maximus XII Apex | x99 Sabertooth |
Cooling | oCool D5 res-combo/280 GTX/ Optimus Foundation/ gpu water block | Blk D15 |
Memory | Trident-Z Royal 4000c16 2x16gb | Trident-Z 3200c14 4x8gb |
Video Card(s) | Titan Xp-water | evga 980ti gaming-w/ air |
Storage | 970evo+500gb & sn850x 4tb | 860 pro 256gb | Acer m.2 1tb/ sn850x 4tb| Many2.5" sata's ssd 3.5hdd's |
Display(s) | 1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series |
Case | D450 | Cherry Entertainment center on Test bench |
Audio Device(s) | Built in Realtek x2 with 2-Insignia 2.0 sound bars & 1-LG sound bar |
Power Supply | EVGA 1000P2 with APC AX1500 | 850P2 with CyberPower-GX1325U |
Mouse | Redragon 901 Perdition x3 |
Keyboard | G710+x3 |
Software | Win-7 pro x3 and win-10 & 11pro x3 |
Benchmark Scores | Are in the benchmark section |
System Name | CyberPowerPC ET8070 |
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Processor | Intel Core i5-10400F |
Motherboard | Gigabyte B460M DS3H AC-Y1 |
Memory | 2 x Crucial Ballistix 8GB DDR4-3000 |
Video Card(s) | MSI Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super |
Storage | Boot: Intel OPTANE SSD P1600X Series 118GB M.2 PCIE |
Display(s) | Dell P2416D (2560 x 1440) |
Power Supply | EVGA 500W1 (modified to have two bridge rectifiers) |
Software | Windows 11 Home |
Not that I care, I'm riding on W11 insider on my daily driver anyway lol
System Name | °( ఠ ͟ʖ ఠ)° |
---|---|
Processor | Intel | i7 _ 11700K | @ ~ 5GHz all | cooling ~ Thermal Grizzly CARBONAUT |
Motherboard | Asus | ROG Strix -- Z 590-E |
Cooling | Asus | ROG Ryujin 240 2* _Noctua F PPC °3000 | 4+1* _beQuiet_ Silent/Light Wings 3 °2200 |
Memory | G Skill | Trident Z *RGB @ 4000_ | _15-15-15-36_ | |
Video Card(s) | Asus | ROG Strix -- RTX 3070Ti_ #OC Edition |
Storage | INTENSO 250GB *1, 500GB*1 | Samsung EVO 860 / 970 EVO plus| WDC WD40 | |
Display(s) | Alienware | AW3821DW _ 38" {3840*1600} wide - curved |
Case | be Quiet | DARK BASE PRO 900 --- _rev. 2 --- #Silver |
Audio Device(s) | Asus | ROG Throne - Qi_7.1 | LOGITECH_G560 Speaker (RGB) |
Power Supply | be Quiet | DARK Power PRO 12 __ 1200W *titanium |
Mouse | Razer | NAGA Trinity (19 buttons) |
Keyboard | Razer | Huntsman V2 analog | Razer Goliathus (RGB) black |
VR HMD | Razer | Kraken Ultimate HEADSET __7.1 THX ____| DX RACER - Gaming Leather Chair_____ VR?? is odd! |
Software | Windows 11 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | See signature URL |
System Name | System V |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 5 3600 |
Motherboard | Asus Prime X570-P |
Cooling | Cooler Master Hyper 212 // a bunch of 120 mm Xigmatek 1500 RPM fans (2 ins, 3 outs) |
Memory | 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 3200 MHz (BLS8G4D32AESCK.M8FE) (CL16-18-18-36) |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte AORUS Radeon RX 580 8 GB |
Storage | SHFS37A240G / DT01ACA200 / ST10000VN0008 / ST8000VN004 / SA400S37960G / SNV21000G / NM620 2TB |
Display(s) | LG 22MP55 IPS Display |
Case | NZXT Source 210 |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G430 Headset |
Power Supply | Corsair CX650M |
Software | Whatever build of Windows 11 is being served in Canary channel at the time. |
Benchmark Scores | Corona 1.3: 3120620 r/s Cinebench R20: 3355 FireStrike: 12490 TimeSpy: 4624 |
I'll bet it will keep working, unless they introduce some change in the core that depends on these newer generation CPUs. It also depends on AMD and Intel providing the necessary drivers for other non-core CPU functionality to work (AMD provides drivers for their security processor for example). Also this:Update on Windows 11 minimum system requirements | Windows Insider Blog
"Reliability. Devices upgraded to Windows 11 will be in a supported and reliable
state. By choosing CPUs that have adopted the new Windows Driver model and are
supported by our OEM and silicon partners who are achieving a 99.8% crash free
experience."
So what happens with older CPUs that don't support the new Windows Driver model?
Go tell some guy that they have to look up if their CPU supports these instructions.
Risky, yes; but how else to really test it?
Processor | Intel i7 10700K |
---|---|
Motherboard | Asus ROG Maximus XII Hero |
Cooling | 2x Black Ice Nemesis GTX 480 - 1x Black Ice Nemesis GTX 420 - D5 VPP655P - 13x Corsair LL120 - LL140 |
Memory | 32GB G.SKILL Trident Z RGB 3600Hz |
Video Card(s) | EVGA GEFORCE RTX 3080 XC3 Ultra |
Storage | Samsung 970 EVO PLUS 500GB/1TB - WD Blue SN550 1TB - 2 X WD Blue 1TB - 3 X WD Black 1TB |
Display(s) | Asus ROG PG278QR 2560x1440 144Hz (Overclocked 165Hz )/ Samsung |
Case | Corsair Obsidian 1000D |
Audio Device(s) | I prefer Gaming-Headset |
Power Supply | Enermax MaxTytan 1250W 80+ Titanium |
Mouse | Logitech G502 spectrum |
Keyboard | Virtuis Advanced Gaming Keyboard ( Batboard ) |
Software | Windows 10 Enterprise/Windows 10 Pro/Windows 11 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | My PC runs FiFA |
System Name | °( ఠ ͟ʖ ఠ)° |
---|---|
Processor | Intel | i7 _ 11700K | @ ~ 5GHz all | cooling ~ Thermal Grizzly CARBONAUT |
Motherboard | Asus | ROG Strix -- Z 590-E |
Cooling | Asus | ROG Ryujin 240 2* _Noctua F PPC °3000 | 4+1* _beQuiet_ Silent/Light Wings 3 °2200 |
Memory | G Skill | Trident Z *RGB @ 4000_ | _15-15-15-36_ | |
Video Card(s) | Asus | ROG Strix -- RTX 3070Ti_ #OC Edition |
Storage | INTENSO 250GB *1, 500GB*1 | Samsung EVO 860 / 970 EVO plus| WDC WD40 | |
Display(s) | Alienware | AW3821DW _ 38" {3840*1600} wide - curved |
Case | be Quiet | DARK BASE PRO 900 --- _rev. 2 --- #Silver |
Audio Device(s) | Asus | ROG Throne - Qi_7.1 | LOGITECH_G560 Speaker (RGB) |
Power Supply | be Quiet | DARK Power PRO 12 __ 1200W *titanium |
Mouse | Razer | NAGA Trinity (19 buttons) |
Keyboard | Razer | Huntsman V2 analog | Razer Goliathus (RGB) black |
VR HMD | Razer | Kraken Ultimate HEADSET __7.1 THX ____| DX RACER - Gaming Leather Chair_____ VR?? is odd! |
Software | Windows 11 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | See signature URL |
no as long as they are filled with data. just erase the /C: (system drive). you will be asked anyway which drive you want to useDo i have to unplug my other SSD''s when installing windows 11?
System Name | Ryzen Monster |
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Processor | Ryzen 7 5700X3D |
Motherboard | Asus ROG Crosshair Hero VII WiFi |
Cooling | Corsair H100i RGB Platinum |
Memory | Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB (4x8GB) 3200Mhz CMW16GX4M2C3200C16 |
Video Card(s) | Asus ROG Strix RX5700XT OC 8Gb |
Storage | WD Black 500GB NVMe 250Gb Samsung SSD, OCZ 500Gb SSD WD M.2 500Gb, plus three spinners up to 1.5Tb |
Display(s) | LG 32GK650F-B 32" UltraGear™ QHD |
Case | Cooler Master Storm Trooper |
Audio Device(s) | Supreme FX on board |
Power Supply | Corsair RM850X full modular |
Mouse | Corsair Ironclaw wireless |
Keyboard | Logitech G213 |
VR HMD | Headphones Logitech G533 wireless |
Software | Windows 11 Start 11 |
Benchmark Scores | 3DMark Time Spy 4532 (9258 March 2021, 9399 July 2021) |