Windows 11 General Discussion

[Rock N Roll Rebel]

go into device manager if you have an Nvidia video card and disable Nvidia sound under the sound settings

 

[plastiscɧ]

go into device manager if you have an Nvidia video card and disable Nvidia sound under the sound settings

yes! many drivers biting eachother... just let work the only you really need

 

[FireFox]

Still Microsoft hasn't solved this: https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/windows-11-general-discussion.284164/post-4565226

 

[plastiscɧ]

there is a older driver, a newer OR the 471.22 hotfix

Still Microsoft hasn't solved this: https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/windows-11-general-discussion.284164/post-4565226

GeForce Hotfix Driver 471.22

Nvidia has provided a hotfix for the Game Ready graphics driver. Version 471.22 fixes some problems that can occur based on the Geforce 471.11 WHQL driver. https://www.deskmodder.de/blog/2021/07/02/geforce-hotfix-treiber-471-22/ Doom Eternal may crash while playing on the desktop League of...

www.techpowerup.com

 

[FireFox]

there is a older driver, a newer OR the 471.22

Then i have to rollback because yesterday i installed 471.41

 

[lexluthermiester]

So previously I stated that everything after version 21996 was in beta but it seems what microsoft has stated is that from 22000.100 is where the beta started. My bad.

Microsoft releases Windows 11 Beta for folks craving a more stable pre-release OS - Liliputing

Microsoft releases Windows 11 Beta for folks craving a more stable pre-release OS

liliputing.com

 

[plastiscɧ]

So previously I stated that everything after version 21996 was in beta but it seems what microsoft has stated is that from 22000.100 is where the beta started. My bad.

Microsoft releases Windows 11 Beta for folks craving a more stable pre-release OS - Liliputing

Microsoft releases Windows 11 Beta for folks craving a more stable pre-release OS

liliputing.com

no bro this a leaked alpha. (even like the 22000.1 __ 22000.45? __ 22000.57)

 

[Splinterdog]

I see that the XBox app is now to be integrated into Windows 11 which is just fine. However, with Microsoft making such a loud noise about gaming it's about time the company addressed the currently bizarre nature of managing our games acquired from MS on PCs.
With Steam being the leader in this area (game discovery, libraries etc) and all the others such as Uplay, Epic, Origin etc also being relatively easy to manage, games from Microsoft remain impossible to manage in any meaningful way.
Any clean Windows install requires fresh downloads of all your MS games, even when you have the games already stored on other drives in your PC. The games are also notoriously difficult to locate and the folders themselves are usually given names totally unrelated to the game itself, not to mention the fact that the game folders are protected and merely looking at the game folder will result in a slap on the wrist.
Not all gamers are savvy about Windows and the many intricacies of folder management such as taking ownership, yet the only means available to manage any MS games is the ability to move a game folder through 'settings' once you've downloaded and installed the game. The system won't go off and hunt for an MS game that you already have on another drive for example, so you have to re-download all 100Gb+ again and the only way to rid yourself of the old install is to boot to WinPE or Linux just to get around the permissions issue.
I really don't think it's too much to ask, but I feel I'm banging my head against a brick wall here.

 

[lexluthermiester]

and all the others such as Uplay, Epic, Origin etc also being relatively easy to manage

Really? How could you mention Uplay in the same sentence as the term "easy to manage" and then not mention GOG(literally the easiest library to manage)?

games from Microsoft remain impossible to manage in any meaningful way.

No doubt there.

Any clean Windows install requires fresh downloads of all your MS games, even when you have the games already stored on other drives in your PC. The games are also notoriously difficult to locate and the folders themselves are usually given names totally unrelated to the game itself, not to mention the fact that the game folders are protected and merely looking at the game folder will result in a slap on the wrist.

And this is why Xbox is NOT a good gaming platform for Windows.

I really don't think it's too much to ask, but I feel I'm banging my head against a brick wall here.

Then avoid the Xbox app platform on Windows. Use CCleaner or some other method to uninstall it and it's services and spend your gaming money on GOG, Epic, Steam, etc(in that order) You'll save yourself a lot of headaches and avoid microsoft's draconian bullshit.

 

[Splinterdog]

Really? How could you mention Uplay in the same sentence as the term "easy to manage" and then not mention GOG(literally the easiest library to manage)?

No doubt there.

And this is why Xbox is NOT a good gaming platform for Windows.

Then avoid the Xbox app platform on Windows. Use CCleaner or some other method to uninstall it and it's services and spend your gaming money on GOG, Epic, Steam, etc(in that order) You'll save yourself a lot of headaches and avoid microsoft's draconian bullshit.

What a bizarre reply!
I know that you're a GOGmeister, butUplay is just as easy to manage as all the others and when you acquire an MS game such as Forza Horizon, you have NO other choice but to use their crappy platform.
As for using CCleaner to uninstall MS games, no thanks. I don't need to install yet another program just to uninstall a game, thanks very much.
With respect, I think you missed the point in that if you have any game acquired from Microsoft, you have to go along with their outdated system. I have four or five, which cannot be managed by any other launcher.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Yeah notice he put gog first lol

 

[windwhirl]

Then avoid the Xbox app platform on Windows

Two reasons why one may not want to:
1-Exclusives. Yes, you can scream to the heavens all you want about not accepting and pushing back against it, but that doesn't stop the game from being exclusive for quite some time.
2-Game Pass. Again, you can complain about it being a subscription service, but quite a few people do see it as a cheaper way to play games. And while I personally prefer to at least own the games in some capacity, lots of people don't really care that much, specially for a game that they're not necessarily going to complete/beat beyond maybe one or two times.

So I feel that simply not using the platform isn't the right approach, but rather that Microsoft should hear the complaints and make some adjustments.

GOG, Epic, Steam, etc(in that order

GOG is no surprise. I personally would spend there first if it weren't for Steam's regional prices (and that didn't stop me from owning Metro Exodus and a few others through GOG).

But I'm a little surprised you put Epic before Steam. Care to tell why? Not that I have anything against that opinion, but with how much... whining I hear about how Epic is this sort of a disaster (outside of interesting free games showing up so often), it's kinda... refreshing, I guess to hear a slightly different opinion.

I really don't think it's too much to ask, but I feel I'm banging my head against a brick wall here.

Considering this all probably ties in with their approach against piracy and the like, I don't think they'd be willing to be too flexible about it. Which is kinda sad, to be honest.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Game pass never gonna happen ms will not have a stream through my wallet lol

 

[windwhirl]

Hi,
Game pass never gonna happen ms will not have a stream through my wallet lol

And that's fine and all, but that's you. Other people don't have any qualms about it.

 

[lexluthermiester]

What a bizarre reply!

No offense intended of course.

I know that you're a GOGmeister

Damn skippy! Whorah!

butUplay is just as easy to manage as all the others

Unless that's a recent change, I have to disagree, it was a pain in the naads, much like EA's Origin(hallowed are the Ori). Besides, I will never again tolerate Ubisoft crap DRM.

and when you acquire an MS game such as Forza Horizon, you have NO other choice but to use their crappy platform.

Find something else to play. It's not like there's a shortage of quality driving games for Windows out there.

As for using CCleaner to uninstall MS games, no thanks. I don't need to install yet another program just to uninstall a game, thanks very much.

Portable Version is a thing;

https://download.ccleaner.com/portable/ccsetup583.zip

Unzip to the folder of your choice, run, enjoy.

With respect, I think you missed the point in that if you have any game acquired from Microsoft, you have to go along with their outdated system.

No worries, understood you perfectly. I found it odd you mentioned game libraries that are "easy to manage" and you left out the easiest of them all.

Yeah notice he put gog first lol

Of course. The best deserve to be mentioned first. That's how it works.

but rather that Microsoft should hear the complaints and make some adjustments.

Yeah, that'll happen... People have been complaining for more than a decade about their crap DRM and user rights policies. Here we are..

I'm a little surprised you put Epic before Steam. Care to tell why?

Sure. IMHO, Epic has edged out Steam in ways that are important, treating their customers like people instead of numbers is one of them. Some time ago I was having problems logging in after an update to the client was applied. One of their second tier tech support reps took on the problem. They discovered a programmatic problem. As a solution he sent me a previous version of the client to install until an update could be released. I've had problems with Steam over the years and never has Valve staff worked the problem. Epic seems to care about their users. Steam doesn't and we all know it. That gives Epic an edge. GOG is the same way.

but with how much... whining I hear about how Epic is this sort of a disaster (outside of interesting free games showing up so often), it's kinda... refreshing, I guess to hear a slightly different opinion.

I was not an Epic supporter at first. But to be objective I gave it an honest try like I do with everyone's platforms. Epic has improved and are seemingly striving to keep doing so. In my book, that is worthy of consideration.

 

[Splinterdog]

Find something else to play. It's not like there's a shortage of quality driving games for Windows out there.

Ha ha, very funny. But in all seriousness, that is not a constructive suggestion at all.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Ha ha, very funny. But in all seriousness, that is not a constructive suggestion at all.

Depends on your perspective. IF the Xbox app is troubling you, stop using it, remove it and move on to something less of a hassle. It's perfectly constructive within the context of removing hassle and irritation from your gaming life.

 

[FireFox]

there is a older driver, a newer OR the 471.22 hotfix

it Didn't help.

 

[plastiscɧ]

it Didn't help.

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then "kill" it until better times - hopefully that works

 

[lexluthermiester]

it Didn't help.

View attachment 210975

NVRLA? When you installed the driver did you include the NVidia Experience or just the drivers? Try installing the drivers by themselves.

 

[FireFox]

NVRLA?

Nvidia FrameView SDK

When you installed the driver did you include the NVidia Experience or just the drivers? Try installing the drivers by themselves.

As always Drivers and Experience.

then "kill

That is what i did first time the issue appeared

 

[plastiscɧ]

na.. why that Gf.Experinece? try tro deinstall alland reinstall with TPU nva cleaninstall on recommended setup then. i guess then you have your mental quiet until later days

Nvidia FrameView SDK

As always Drivers and Experience.

That is what i did first time the issue appeared

 

[lexluthermiester]

As always Drivers and Experience.

Yeah, ditch the Experience.

Nvidia FrameView SDK

Uninstall it.

 

[FireFox]

na.. why that Gf.Experinece? try tro deinstall alland reinstall with TPU nva cleaninstall on recommended setup then. i guess then you have your mental quiet until later days

Gf.Experinece, easy way to update the GPU driver, having Nvidia FrameView SDK disabled for now it is enough.

If you choose to delete a version from the Boot tab of msconfig, that Windows version won’t be deleted, but it won’t be displayed on the Windows Boot Manager screen.

Back to this answer, you meant wont be deleted from the SSD/HHD where it is installed?

 

[plastiscɧ]

Gf.Experinece, easy way to update the GPU driver, having Nvidia FrameView SDK disabled for now it is enough.

Back to this answer, you meant wont be deleted from the SSD/HHD where it is installed?

mate u will run into other problems tho: no setup app startable. the graphiccards options.
you must do the following then:

install the APP via NVCleaninstall DCH driver -- first then download the normal driver from the Nvidia WEBSITE and then the app starts again.

it's a bit from behind through the chest into the eye - but it works. took me a while to find out this "stategy"