Windows 11 General Discussion

FireFox · Aug 6, 2021

windwhirl said:
Oh, I'm gonna add to that this:

Trusted platform module security defeated in 30 minutes, no soldering required

Sometimes, locking down a laptop with the latest defenses isn’t enough.

arstechnica.com

The thing is that Microsoft still think that we are in the '80s/ '90s, someone needs to give them a wake-up call.
They're forcing people to use TPM?, well, people are giving them what they want :laugh:

Question for those that updated to 22000.120.
Any big improvements? i ask because i still have the updates paused.

VulkanBros · Aug 6, 2021

FireFox said:
Question for those that updated to 22000.120.
Any big improvements? i ask because i still have the updates paused.

Updates and bug Fixes on Build 22000.120

FireFox · Aug 6, 2021

I forgot to ask another silly question.
Is it possible to update the Beta to the final Version, PLEASE don't judge me, laugh, or make fun of me :laugh:

VulkanBros · Aug 6, 2021

FireFox said:
I forgot to ask another silly question.
Is it possible to update the Beta to the final Version, PLEASE don't judge me, laugh, or make fun of me

It was, from Windows 10 BETA to Final - so I don't see why W11 should be different

FireFox · Aug 6, 2021

VulkanBros said:
it was, from Windows 10 BETA to Final - so I don't see why W11 should be different

I hope it can be done, i will buy a 980 Pro to migrate/clone W11 from my 850 EVO to it.

Splinterdog · Aug 6, 2021

Has anyone found a way to remove the date from the taskbar? I ask because I want to shrink the taskbar with smaller icons and the reg trick I tried last time looked odd because the date was still there.
I know what the date is most days and clicking on the time gives you the date anyway.

P4-630 · Aug 6, 2021

Microsoft recently posted several videos about Windows 11 on YouTube.
The commentary on some of those videos was not kind and the software giant has even been labeled as an East Indian deaf by several users because the company did not sufficiently respond to questions and comments about the system requirements of Windows 11.

The Redmond company appears to have gotten tired of complaining and comments and has disabled the comment feature.
All previously posted comments are no longer visible and it is not possible to comment under the video.

The only way users can comment is by pressing the like or dislike button. At the moment the video has 214 likes and 4400 dislikes.
It looks like Microsoft will be working on warding off complaints and comments about Windows 11 for a while.
The fear is that frustrated users who could not express themselves on this video expressed their dissatisfaction among other messages and (future) videos from Microsoft.

ThrashZone · Aug 6, 2021

Hi,
Expanding rule really
If you've ever been a member of ms answers forum you'd know this is normal practice lol

EsaT · Aug 6, 2021

That's the Windows development process of the last decade...
Force out various BS hardly anyone except fan club wants and discard any critic and use paying consumers as alpha testers.

While I used to swear at Gates I now miss the times he was at helm of Microsoft.
At least in that time Windows was developed as PC OS.

ThrashZone · Aug 6, 2021

Hi,
Nadella verses Balmer
Balmer looks like a saint now.

Shrek · Aug 6, 2021

Progress is not born of optimism; one needs to be cynical to drive things forward.

My guess is much of the annoyance stems from the idea that many machines that are happily running Windows 10 will not be supported by Windows 11; I have five PCs running Windows 10 and none that can run Windows 11 without a little trickery.

My Windows 10 licenses were free upgrades from Windows 7, and that was a big deal for me.

FireFox · Aug 6, 2021

Updated W11 to 22000.120.
While playing Cold War the Monitor went black and the PC restarted itself.

Event Viewer says:
1- The device HID-compliant headset (location (unknown)) is offline due to a user-mode driver crash. Windows will attempt to restart the device 5 more times. Please contact the device manufacturer for more information about this problem.

2- Installation Failure: Windows failed to install the following update with error 0x80240017: Security Intelligence Update for Microsoft Defender Antivirus - KB2267602 (Version 1.345.54.0).

3- A problem has occurred with one or more user-mode drivers and the hosting process has been terminated. This may temporarily interrupt your ability to access the devices.

Bill_Bright · Aug 6, 2021

EsaT said:
That's the Windows development process of the last decade...

Ummm no! Not even.

That's the "marketing" and "executive policy" process of the last decade (or two!).

The development side of the Microsoft house consists of a large group of highly qualified, dedicated and concerned people who really do know what they are doing and sincerely want to bring us a quality and secure product. But, sadly, they don't control the purse strings or have final say on what gets "shoved down our throats"... err... I mean "released to the public".

ThrashZone · Aug 6, 2021

Hi,
Win-11 driver police.

Cheese_On_tsaot · Aug 6, 2021

I am thinking Windows 11 is taking too much freedom from people and at this point with no intent with the stupidity of how easy it is to hack a TPM module lol.
I am dissappointed that Microsoft said Windows 10 would be the last Windows and just get's updated. Stupid bullshitters, I don't like false marketing.

Mister300 · Aug 6, 2021

Loaded a VM with Win 11 will pass interface is crap, looks like it was designed for a touch tablet. Nothing wrong with win 10 pro.

FireFox · Aug 6, 2021

Mister300 said:
looks like it was designed for a touch tablet

You're 1000% right about it.

theFOoL · Aug 6, 2021

FireFox said:
You're 1000% about it.

I second that. Long Live 10/7

FireFox · Aug 6, 2021

rk3066 said:
I second that. Long Live 10/7

W11 is all about forcing people to use TPM.
They would have done better releasing updates for W10 to make it better/100% a solid OS.

lexluthermiester · Aug 6, 2021

Mister300 said:
Loaded a VM with Win 11 will pass interface is crap, looks like it was designed for a touch tablet. Nothing wrong with win 10 pro.

That's an opinion. I disagree. The current ui is a HUGE improvement over the clunky, cumbersome garbage of Windows 10.

rk3066 said:
I second that. Long Live 10/7

Windows 7? Yes. 7 is a masterpiece. This is why I like 11 so much, it reminds me of 7. The UI is shaping up to be very intuitive, easy to use and eye catching. When I say "eye catching" it is meant that it is fast becoming very refined and elegant, unlike the unintuitive amateur-hour crap of 10.

theFOoL · Aug 6, 2021

lexluthermiester said:
That's an opinion. I disagree. The current ui is a HUGE improvement over the clunky, cumbersome garbage of Windows 10.

Meaning what may I ask? Just every App or OS I May throw has Ads. I mean yes there is a LTS Version but for 11 is a Question. 10 is a great OS. I just like to toy around with the latest version that's all

Deleted member 24505 · Aug 6, 2021

Got a bios update for my board today for win 11 compliance

FireFox · Aug 6, 2021

Gruffalo.Soldier said:
Got a bios update for my board today for win 11 compliance

Something like this?

Deleted member 24505 · Aug 6, 2021

FireFox said:
Something like this?
View attachment 211531

yes indeed, flashed it, seems fine.

FireFox · Aug 6, 2021

Gruffalo.Soldier said:
yes indeed, flashed it, seems fine.

I knew about it because it was released 2 weeks ago but i haven't installed it yet.

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Windows 11 General Discussion

FireFox

The Power Of Intel

Trusted platform module security defeated in 30 minutes, no soldering required

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The Power Of Intel

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FireFox

The Power Of Intel

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ThrashZone

EsaT

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Shrek

FireFox

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FireFox

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theFOoL

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