Arctic Passive Cooling Laptop Modification

delshay · Jun 20, 2021

lynx29 said:
yep it's not mounted in anyway. just weight of laptop and weight of the olive oil. i'm not taking it all apart just to get a picture of it flipped over. it was pain to get it lined up right to begin with.

regardless. i was getting like 85+ celsius in games when this laptop was "normal" but ever since i messed up the heatsink last week, it was 95-100+ celsius even in indie games... so this was my only option, unless I wanted to pay a lot of money to a professional to fix it and get my regular 80ish celsius back, cause all laptops run hot.

so i said no thanks. $30 and now im seeing 57 celsius max on both cpu and gpu in divinity original sin 2 maxed out on ultra at 1080p 165 fps 165hz. with OC's on both. lol

can't complain. at least it's finally working good. I can now hold off until like 2023 before doing a new PC build. plenty of older games I want to play and indie games too.

If you need it to last then I recommend going 100% wireless. This way you never touch the laptop. One mistake & that could be the end. I have bought extra wireless dongles & at a press of a button on mouse I can control different PC including my laptop. Keyboard is setup differently, but is also wireless.

I would not connect any wired Mouse/Keyboard to the laptop, just in-case the cable is pulled too far.

At the end of the day, you want very little or no contact with the laptop in that configuration. This may include turning it on/off via the power button.. So I recommend sleep/hibernate mode whichever can wake the laptop via movement of wireless mouse/keyboard.

Remember it takes just one mistake & It could be game over.

Space Lynx · Jun 20, 2021

delshay said:
Remember it takes just one mistake & It could be game over.

tis very true. I would def not recommend modding like this to an amateur. I have been building PC's for 20+ years though. I appreciate your concern though, it is noted. I most likely will do a lot of twisty ties and tape, possibly even gorilla glue in a few places. not sure yet.

yotano211 · Jun 20, 2021

lynx29 said:
IT WORKED BOYS IT FREAKING WORKED LMAO

I CAN'T FREAKIN BELIEVE IT!!!! $30 TOTAL COST TOO ME DOWN TO 65 CELSIUS ON BOTH CPU AND GPU!!!! LMAO

TO THE MOON BOYS!!! TO THE MOON!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! THIS LAPTOP ISN'T DEAD YET BOYS AND SHE IS ABOUT TO GET OVERCLOCKED TO BOOT! YEEEEEEHAAAAA

ROFL I can't believe... I need to find some cheaper weights other than the olive oil though, that crap was expensive lol... I disabled keyboard in local config editor, and made sure it won't reinstall, now i just use external keyboard mouse and monitor. temps not breaking 65 celsius in anything I throw at it. lmao

@W1zzard @R-T-B @lexluthermiester @TheLostSwede @Gmr_Chick @yotano211 @jesdals @Mussels @Ahhzz @nguyen @Drone @Jill Valentine @rtwjunkie @Caring1 @Legacy-ZA @newtekie1 @AsRock @erocker @PaulieG @Tatty_One @btarunr @80-watt Hamster @Toothless

COTTON BALLS FOR BALANCE BOYS!!! COTTON BALLS AND OLIVE OIL TO THE MOON!!!!

To the MARS!!!!!!!
I needed that laugh today.
Got into an accident so my work truck is down until company gives me a replacement.

What's the processor overclocking too? I would think at least 4.4ghz.

Space Lynx · Jun 22, 2021

last update for awhile. I optimized some airflow with dedicated fans hitting direct through the fins, and changed out the mx-2 pre-applied paste to noctua nt-h2. I'm getting about 5 celsius better even than before.

just played Grim Dawn at 1080p Ultra settings, 165hz 165 fps, no frame dips really to speak of, and max temps were around 60 celsius for both cpu and gpu. gtx 1070 has a 160 core and 490 vram oc through msi afterburner, its fully stable. doesn't even break 60 celsius in time spy bench. I'm not risking pushing it further than that. pretty happy with it. overall I see this laptop lasting me another two years now. maybe longer (if I get a gf/buy a house/buy a boat) like I plan to do. not quitting gaming by any means. I just mean lot of the games I play right now, do just fine with what I have. :toast:

cpu is stock, getting 3.9 ghz boosts quite often. used to be at 2.9ghz 24/7, so again pretty happy overall. I have a -100 offset set in mobo BIOS for CPU to help keep temps under control even more. i might take that offset away though, its really not needed anymore. we'll see. @unclewebb any advice on this? if temps are good, no need for offset in laptop cpu's correct? your the laptop expert here is main reason I am asking you. :love:

(i'd love to use your software to OC it to 41 all core no downclocking. I think it can handle it... but every time I try I just can't figure out all the different settings LOL) sucks to be dumb. oh well.

edit: also sorry for the title everyone, I did originally plan to go with Noctua's, but I am glad I went with these cheap little $15 arctic passive cooler instead + plus fan for each... ended up being much cheaper and my results are fine. I probably could have gotten to 40 celsius though with those noctua's... maybe in like 6 months if i get bored I will update this thread with frankenstein project 2... but I doubt I do it lol... pretty happy with way it all turned out / money that was invested.

unclewebb · Jun 22, 2021

lynx29 said:
no need for offset in laptop cpu's correct?

I undervolt everything. No need to give a CPU more voltage than what it needs to be stable. Your temps are fantastic so you are correct that there is no "need" to do this.

If you want to overclock it to the 41 multi, open the FIVR window, check the Overclock box and set all of the turbo ratios to 41. Open the TPL window, check the Speed Shift option and set Speed Shift Max to 41. If you do this at default voltage, you should be 100% stable. Post some screenshots if you need some help. Once Speed Shift is enabled, on the main screen you can set Speed Shift EPP to 0 if you want maximum CPU speed regardless of load. Change EPP to 80 if you want your laptop to slow down when lightly loaded. Just click on the EPP value on the main screen and you can edit it.

Do some full load testing. Open the Limit Reasons window and see if anything is lighting up in red. Watch the CPU speed and multiplier to make sure there is no throttling.

Space Lynx · Jun 22, 2021

unclewebb said:
I undervolt everything. No need to give a CPU more voltage than what it needs to be stable. Your temps are fantastic so you are correct that there is no "need" to do this.

If you want to overclock it to the 41 multi, open the FIVR window, check the Overclock box and set all of the turbo ratios to 41. Open the TPL window, check the Speed Shift option and set Speed Shift Max to 41. If you do this at default voltage, you should be 100% stable. Post some screenshots if you need some help. Once Speed Shift is enabled, on the main screen you can set Speed Shift EPP to 0 if you want maximum CPU speed regardless of load. Change EPP to 80 if you want your laptop to slow down when lightly loaded. Just click on the EPP value on the main screen and you can edit it.

Do some full load testing. Open the Limit Reasons window and see if anything is lighting up in red. Watch the CPU speed and multiplier to make sure there is no throttling.

I had no idea it was that easy, when you first open up Throttlestop its kind of overwhelming. I just ran Grim Dawn again for 5 mins, with settings you said, temps went up to 72 celsius. not bad at all... i did see some fluctuation from time to time where it would go 41 all core to a few threads reporting 3.7ghz for 0.5 seconds then back to 41 all core. but im not worried about that. main thing is it works, and I can tell a difference, it just feels a touch smoother now for some reason.

weird. thanks! this is awesome lol (I just checked the Limits section, and nothing there, so far so good) :rockout:

hard to believe this laptop used to run crippled all to heck at 90-102 celsius... and now it can handle pretty decent overclocks and still have really good temps... all because of two fans and two cheap passive coolers. insane.

OneMoar · Jun 22, 2021

what is this abomination?

Space Lynx · Jun 22, 2021

OneMoar said:
what is this abomination?

It is Frankenstein Project 1, Breaker of Gravity, Upside Down Convection!!! :rockout:

In all seriousness though, since I have no need of being mobile... might as well have cool temps instead of 90+ celsius temps... /shrug I'm pretty happy with it (was not expecting the cheap little $15 passive coolers to work so well, though to be fair its the fans doing most of the work so they aren't really passive, but still for $15 can't complain)

yotano211 · Jun 22, 2021

lynx29 said:
overall I see this laptop lasting me another two years now. maybe longer (if I get a gf/buy a house/buy a boat)

Don't get gf, get boat, get roommate or stay with parents until you retire.

Try to push the cpu higher than 4.1ghz.

unclewebb · Jun 22, 2021

lynx29 said:
ThrottleStop its kind of overwhelming

People tend to over think things. Intel CPUs are pretty simple. A few minor tweaks in ThrottleStop can make a big difference.

As I mentioned, post some screenshots. It makes it easier for me to see how you have the program setup. Turn on the Log File option while playing a game. It will provide a very accurate record of your CPU performance. You can turn on Nvidia GPU in the Options window if you have one of them so this data will also be added to the log file.

lynx29 said:
used to run crippled all to heck

The whole laptop industry is a mess. Not sure why manufacturers think buyers want laptops that constantly throttle while bouncing off 100°C. Just because an Intel CPU can handle this, no one that I know wants to hold on to an Easy Bake oven when they are trying to play a game.
Good work on taming your beast. :toast:

Mussels · Jun 27, 2021

Here we go, someone slapped one of these on a GPU

I Do Naughty Things With Noctua's New Passive CPU Cooler... - YouTube

And watch the pressure issues he has with zip ties and so on, very relevant to your issue

claes · Jun 27, 2021

Before I bought brackets for my old AIOs I used zip-ties to attach them to my GPUs. I was able to get similar results with ties as with brackets, but I had to use pliers to get any real mounting pressure.

Space Lynx · Jun 27, 2021

if anyone is wondering, this is the fan I am using to give my setup some extra airflow.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Holmes-4-in-1-Speed-Indoor-Desk-Fan/1002554600

I got two of these for like 20 bucks a long time ago. they are metal caged and push air very good... really high quality product for the price. metal blades, etc. but yeah these along with the laptop cooler fans (which blow air very slowly) are a good combo.

yotano211 · Jun 27, 2021

lynx29 said:
if anyone is wondering, this is the fan I am using to give my setup some extra airflow.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Holmes-4-in-1-Speed-Indoor-Desk-Fan/1002554600

I got two of these for like 20 bucks a long time ago. they are metal caged and push air very good... really high quality product for the price. metal blades, etc. but yeah these along with the laptop cooler fans (which blow air very slowly) are a good combo.

Go to bed, it's 2.37am

lexluthermiester · Jun 27, 2021

yotano211 said:
Go to bed, it's 2.37am

You mind your own business. :slap:

Mussels · Jun 27, 2021

yotano211 said:
Go to bed, it's 2.37am

Dumb ideas run in the aussie timezone, he's got a few hours before bed

Space Lynx · Jul 2, 2021

I put the heatsink back on, NT-H2 paste, and instead of fans I wanted to see what I giant piece of metal (huge piece of cold steel that is the asgard 2 headphone amp)

temps are about the 3-4 celsius worse than direct die, but again that is with no fan... I think it's because the amp is so freaking heavy and is pure cold steel touching every single one of the fins its soaking up the heat from both convection Arctic heatsinks and distributing it evenly... and the pressure from the weight of the amp as well helping.

I think I am going to leave it this way. more stable, less crazy, and no fans = less dusting I will have to do.

also that nvme drive has some custom cooling on it too as you can see, copper, EK air heatsink, electrical tape... LOL it works. doesn't break 61 celsius usually.

@Andy Shiekh thoughts?

fyi the asgard 2 amp is meant to soak up heat and distribute it across the single steel plate that wraps around all of it... so its quite effect... and the perfect size... lol good thing I only paid $100 for it and never use it anymore. lol

yotano211 · Jul 2, 2021

a little more heat but much quieter, i'll go with the much quieter.

Space Lynx · Jul 3, 2021

yotano211 said:
a little more heat but much quieter, i'll go with the much quieter.

its def some schiity cooling, but it works. :rockout:

jallenlabs · Jul 8, 2021

lynx29 said:

Sad to see that Schiit end that way. I love their stuff. Im still waiting to see the big heatsink with Noctuas on it...

tabascosauz · Jul 8, 2021

jallenlabs said:
Sad to see that Schiit end that way. I love their stuff. Im still waiting to see the big heatsink with Noctuas on it...

@lynx29 you might be able to ask the mods to unlock the first post, so you can edit the title as you wish. I bet a lot of people are still going come in here expecting 2 x NH-P1s from you lol

Perhaps "ghetto but highly effective laptop cooling"

Space Lynx · Jul 8, 2021

tabascosauz said:
@lynx29 you might be able to ask the mods to unlock the first post, so you can edit the title as you wish. I bet a lot of people are still going come in here expecting 2 x NH-P1s from you lol

Perhaps "ghetto but highly effective laptop cooling"

done, i reported it to be changed. makes sense.

jallenlabs said:
Sad to see that Schiit end that way. I love their stuff. Im still waiting to see the big heatsink with Noctuas on it...

the schiit amp isn't permanent. just until I find a substitute... which will be hard to do. the amp is very very heavy, very dense, and thick cold steel wrapped in one piece drawing the heat off the top fins...

i have a hybrid tube amp that i prefer over my asgard 2, and the asgard 2 so expensive to ship it hasn't been worth selling it. so yeah, at least its getting some use until i figure out next move. for now i am fairly complacent.

also the custom cooling i have my crucial p5 1tb nvme drive is working really really well... during gaming it doesn't break 40-50 celsius, during specific stress loads it doesnt even budget 61 celsius. fantastic.

Space Lynx · Aug 15, 2021

final update: I replaced the asgard 2 amp with a brick. the brick works better too. the density of the weight is perfect to its size, I am getting better heat dissipation now. and if I overclock I turn on the fan.... the passive is good enough for me though so I rarely bother with the fan now that the brick is doing an even better job.

also note my custom cooling on the nvme drive (to the right of the right most plant, you can see the end of it)... in TPU's review of this same drive crucial p5 1tb - it would hit 100 celsius, mine has never gone above 60. i added a nice EK air heatsink to it I had laying around, and some extra copper. The plants are from Ikea, and so I don't have to just see a monstrosity out the corner of my field of vision LOL

Rithsom · Aug 15, 2021

lynx29 said:
final update: I replaced the asgard 2 amp with a brick. the brick works better too. the density of the weight is perfect to its size, I am getting better heat dissipation now. and if I overclock I turn on the fan.... the passive is good enough for me though so I rarely bother with the fan now that the brick is doing an even better job.

also note my custom cooling on the nvme drive (to the right of the right most plant, you can see the end of it)... in TPU's review of this same drive crucial p5 1tb - it would hit 100 celsius, mine has never gone above 60. i added a nice EK air heatsink to it I had laying around, and some extra copper. The plants are from Ikea, and so I don't have to just see a monstrosity out the corner of my field of vision LOL

You just gave the term "bricking" a whole new meaning.

Bravo! I'm glad that your laptop is still working alright for you.

Space Lynx · Aug 15, 2021

Rithsom said:
You just gave the term "bricking" a whole new meaning.

Bravo! I'm glad that your laptop is still working alright for you.

I actually didn't even think of that until now, lol good one

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