TPU's WCG/BOINC Team

[phill]

Finally got all the parts for the Threadripper build. Sadly I have been having stability issues with the motherboard at default settings so I have it set to 3.8 GHz and the ram speeds are set to default. I have a new ASUS ROG Strix TRX40 board coming this week. I do have a XSPC Raystorm Neo water block that I had on my EPIC build that will fit on the 3960X. Sadly it is not a mono block though. Hopefully the new board will fair better.
I did find something cool though. When I moved my old G.Skill Trident Z 32 GB set to the Hero board (I took out the Neo ram for the 3960X build), I found that they run at 3600 Mhz speeds just fine! They are a 3200 Mhz set.
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So, what do you think of it @HammerON ?? Is it what you hoped for or is it so much more??

 

[HammerON]

Don't know yet. Pretty frustrated with the Zenith board that I had high hopes for. Last time I buy a used high end motherboard
I am happy that it is crunching at 3.8 GHz though with decent temps.

 

[phill]

What do you think it might be @HammerON causing the issues? RAM speeds/timings or just the RAM used? I would have hoped that the high end Zenith boards would have been among the best? Bios update or anything like that? Nothing going on 'funky' with the socket/CPU mount or anything such?

I hope you get it sorted out

 

[debs3759]

The 1080 Ti arrived today and is now folding. I might be having a second sent later this week as well, as nobody else in the UK asked for one. It's an ROG Strix 1080 Ti OC. I'm setting it to do 3 wcg tasks at a time (I only crunch on 6 CPU cores, and want it as simple as possible if I get the second card). If I get the second card, will both cards do 3 tasks at a time with the same settings, or do I need to alter the xml file? I can't find anything in the faqs to tell me how to set up multiple tasks on more than one card. Found the general settings in boinc though.

 

[mstenholm]

The 1080 Ti arrived today and is now folding. I might be having a second sent later this week as well, as nobody else in the UK asked for one. It's an ROG Strick 1080 Ti OC. I'm setting it to do 3 wcg tasks at a time (I only crunch on 6 CPU cores, and want it as simple as possible if I get the second card). If I get the second card, will both cards do 3 tasks at a time with the same settings, or do I need to alter the xml file? I can't find anything in the faqs to tell me how to set up multiple tasks on more than one card. Found the general settings in boinc though.

If you put both of them in the same PC then you only need one config file. You can set the limit to 6 (0.16), just because you ask for many there is absolutely no guarantee you will get that. I would not advice to put both in the same PC for two reasons - you get more if you spilt them in two PCs and the temperature in the case will be very high.

 

[phill]

If you put both of them in the same PC then you only need one config file. You can set the limit to 6 (0.16), just because you ask for many there is absolutely no guarantee you will get that. I would not advice to put both in the same PC for two reasons - you get more if you spilt them in two PCs and the temperature in the case will be very high.

I've been lucky to be getting one or two, it's a bit of a shame.. Seem to get more when hardly any of the other PCs are on but all of my PCs are set to fold on the GPU, rarely they all do at once...

 

[debs3759]

If you put both of them in the same PC then you only need one config file. You can set the limit to 6 (0.16), just because you ask for many there is absolutely no guarantee you will get that. I would not advice to put both in the same PC for two reasons - you get more if you spilt them in two PCs and the temperature in the case will be very high.

OK, thanks. Guess I'll be setting up the Z97 system until I get something newer than this (Skylake) system. Not sure when I can afford Zen3 (or, better, Zen4 by the time I can afford it), and other than an i7 4790K, there's no point my wasting money on anything slower than Zen3.

 

[mstenholm]

In pure frustration over not getting any OPNGs I pulled my big gun today - the mighty 7770. For information running four concurrently takes roughly 1 hour so one every 15 minutes. The fan profile was left in auto and it went to the minimum 20% resulting in 55 degree C. The GPU seems to be maxed out at a constant 99% and the power increase from running pure CPU to CPU+GPU is around 20-30 W. Now it just need to be fed. .

Update: 16 OPNGs in total for 18 hour, 2 of them is pending validation. Not a 2070 replacement but still 550 points more per hour per thread when it work on OPNG.

 

[debs3759]

In pure frustration over not getting any OPNGs I pulled my big gun today - the mighty 7770. For information running four concurrently takes roughly 1 hour so one every 15 minutes. The fan profile was left in auto and it went to the minimum 20% resulting in 55 degree C. The GPU seems to be maxed out at a constant 99% and the power increase from running pure CPU to CPU+GPU is around 20-30 W. Now it just need to be fed. .

15 minutes seems quite good for such an old GPU. Sounds like my having bought a 7790 might not have been a bad idea (except that after buying it, I was donated a GTX 1080 Ti to fold on, with a second possibly coming next week - both will naturally run OPNG when available)

Sold my GTX 1060 3GB, and going to use the proceeds to buy a 4790K once eBay put the money in my bank. Target price is £85 shipped for the CPU (I'm sniping a few).

 

[hat]

Parts are here. The off-and-on Athlon II gets replaced by an i5 10400 today.

It's running. Seems to be holding steady at 4GHz all core, 80c on the hottest core with the stock coffee coaster cooler.

 

[Jacky_BEL]

I am having some issues lately with some of my WCG PC's.

One PC with WGC running on a HDD failed, because the HDD response time was higher than 7000 ms , which I believe made WCG crash.
I will replace the HDD with a SSD soon.

On another PC , I now sometimes get video hardware errors , which freezes the PC and makes GPU fans spin at 100%.
Now I don't know if this is the hardware failing , or a faulty OPNG GPU-workunit , so I don't know how to deal with this one (yet).

 

[phill]

I am having some issues lately with some of my WCG PC's.

One PC with WGC running on a HDD failed, because the HDD response time was higher than 7000 ms , which I believe made WCG crash.
I will replace the HDD with a SSD soon.

On another PC , I now sometimes get video hardware errors , which freezes the PC and makes GPU fans spin at 100%.
Now I don't know if this is the hardware failing , or a faulty OPNG GPU-workunit , so I don't know how to deal with this one (yet).

Have you tried CrystalDiskMarkInfo program just to see if the drive is failing in/on one or more of its SMARTs reports at all? Might be worth a go??

As for the GPU issue, only thing I could think of at the moment would be to run it as you could for FAH and try it with 3D Mark, Valley, Heaven, Superposition, Catzilla or even a game if you can just to see if you get any issues with it doing something else...
I guess you could always check the GPU work tasks and see if there's anything in the results file to see what the error/issues might be?

Not sure if that helps or not but that would be where I'd start

 

[Jacky_BEL]

Have you tried CrystalDiskMarkInfo program just to see if the drive is failing in/on one or more of its SMARTs reports at all? Might be worth a go??

As for the GPU issue, only thing I could think of at the moment would be to run it as you could for FAH and try it with 3D Mark, Valley, Heaven, Superposition, Catzilla or even a game if you can just to see if you get any issues with it doing something else...
I guess you could always check the GPU work tasks and see if there's anything in the results file to see what the error/issues might be?

Not sure if that helps or not but that would be where I'd start

For now , I have reinstalled WCG on another partition.
I was planning to get the seatool to check the HDD but I can try CrystalDiskMarkInfo out as well.

This troubleshooting is going to take some time , which I don't have much of now.
And in the process of reading the modelnumber on the bottom off the PC case , I managed to break the PS/2 ports as well

In the workunit results page I see 4 entries , 2 that generated an error and 2 that are valid. like this one: World Community Grid - Workunit Status

It seems in my case coincidentaly to be the number 1 iteration failing, together with the number 0 iteration from another user.

OPNG_ 0080913_ 00026_ 1--
OPNG_ 0080913_ 00041_ 1--
OPNG_ 0080935_ 00009_ 1--
OPNG_ 0080940_ 00124_ 1--

All these workunit errors have the same pattern.

 

[phill]

For now , I have reinstalled WCG on another partition.
I was planning to get the seatool to check the HDD but I can try CrystalDiskMarkInfo out as well.

This troubleshooting is going to take some time , which I don't have much of now.
And in the process of reading the modelnumber on the bottom off the PC case , I managed to break the PS/2 ports as well

In the workunit results page I see 4 entries , 2 that generated an error and 2 that are valid. like this one: World Community Grid - Workunit Status
It seems in my case coincidentaly to be the number 1 iteration failing, together with the number 0 iteration from another user.

OPNG_ 0080913_ 00026_ 1--
OPNG_ 0080913_ 00041_ 1--
OPNG_ 0080935_ 00009_ 1--
OPNG_ 0080940_ 00124_ 1--

All these workunit errors have the same pattern.

What Nvidia drivers do you currently have installed?? Maybe an update might be required?

Any particular overclock/undervolt etc. that might cause an issue?? (Just thought of that one!)

 

[Jacky_BEL]

What Nvidia drivers do you currently have installed?? Maybe an update might be required?

Any particular overclock/undervolt etc. that might cause an issue?? (Just thought of that one!)

Drivers are 456.71

No overclock or undervolt , just power limit and temperature limit set with MSi afterburner.

 

[phill]

Drivers are 456.71

No overclock or undervolt , just power limit and temperature limit set with MSi afterburner.

I'd consider a driver update just as a check.. Maybe run a GPU drive cleaner program before installing fresh ones? My 1080 TI's I run about the 60% power limit, I leave the temp linked with the power. Not any issues that I've been aware of?
Is this the rig with a faulty drive or is it another? Was just wondering if it was corrupting the results or something daft... Just thinking out loud at this point so apologies if you've already tried this sort of thing/s...

 

[Jacky_BEL]

I'd consider a driver update just as a check.. Maybe run a GPU drive cleaner program before installing fresh ones? My 1080 TI's I run about the 60% power limit, I leave the temp linked with the power. Not any issues that I've been aware of?
Is this the rig with a faulty drive or is it another? Was just wondering if it was corrupting the results or something daft... Just thinking out loud at this point so apologies if you've already tried this sort of thing/s...

No, this is the rig I managed to destroy the PS/2 ports of. It was controlled with a PS/2 KVM switch, so I now need to relocate it and use USB mouse and keyboard control.
It is still running now, I will probably address this tomorrow.
Need for apologies here , thank you for thinking with me .

 

[phill]

No, this is the rig I managed to destroy the PS/2 ports of. It was controlled with a PS/2 KVM switch, so I now need to relocate it and use USB mouse and keyboard control.
It is still running now, I will probably address this tomorrow.
Need for apologies here , thank you for thinking with me .

No worries, like to help

What about the obvious, turn off turn on routine??

 

[Jacky_BEL]

No worries, like to help

What about the obvious, turn off turn on routine??

It didn't help. I want this PC to be running unmanaged for longer periods of time.
If can't get it to work reliable like that , it's going to be "the chuck it out the window" routine.

after I pull the GPU and PSU, that is...

 

[phill]

I found with running mine 24/7 that things do start to happen that don't make sense so depending on how long you'd like it to run for it might be wise to just set a restart in there every few days... I tend to check my rigs every day, I never trust them to run properly! I mean after all, I did build and configure them.......

 

[MentalAcetylide]

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I have a similar build under construction, just waiting on an A6000:
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/new-build-help-request.281022/post-4530071
Which board were you having problems with? I went with MSI's Creator TRX40 along with AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3960X, and G.Skill Trident Z Royal DDR4-3200MHz CL14-14-14-34 1.35V 128GB (8x16GB). I probably should've just went with 4x32 Gb for now, but I had to go with what was available. You'll probably have your system 100% completed before I get mine.

 

[Jacky_BEL]

I found with running mine 24/7 that things do start to happen that don't make sense so depending on how long you'd like it to run for it might be wise to just set a restart in there every few days... I tend to check my rigs every day, I never trust them to run properly! I mean after all, I did build and configure them.......

I never had any problems with this rig doing F@h.
How do you do performs an automatic restart

 

[phill]

I never had any problems with this rig doing F@h.
How do you do performs an automatic restart

I can't afford to run my machines 24/7, I just shut them down when my solar power stops giving out so much juice. I wonder if there's a command you can run in DOS or Powershell to say, restart in x number of minutes/hours or something?

 

[Jacky_BEL]

I can't afford to run my machines 24/7, I just shut them down when my solar power stops giving out so much juice. I wonder if there's a command you can run in DOS or Powershell to say, restart in x number of minutes/hours or something?

OK, it sounded like you had it automated .
Wouldn't it be nice to program a restart just after finishing a ARP workunit?

 

[phill]

I'm sure there's something out that will do the job Some of those ARP units take a day or so at the moment, that's a long time and no wonder why my points drop when I get them!!