Intel Core i7-11700 or i7-11700K?

[Chrispy_]

I agree, though the non-K version offers almost the same clocks with no overclockability - which isn't an issue nowadays, as with modern turbo algorithms, overclocking is pretty much dead anyway.

Definitely depends on pricing.

I hadn't looked at Rocket Lake until just now.
For Comet Lake the K was about 10% more expensive and it was 4.8 all-core vs 4.5 all-core, which makes sense to go K
For Rocket Lake you're saying 20% more expensive for 4.8 all-core vs 4.7 all-core, which is practically nothing.

I'd say Rocket Lake might be the first generation in a while where the non-K makes more sense, though it's important not to look at just the CPU's cost in isolation - you need to buy a CPU+board together in most cases, potentially with a cooler and new RAM too. Depending on how much you have to spend in total to support this new CPU purchase, even small performance gains can be worth the extra $50-75 when divided by the whole bundle's cost.

 

[TheHunter]

well F model is without Intel UHD graphics.

For me the F model was more expensive which is weird should be cheaper that not always the case.

Yeah I just checked now and I saw normal 11700K being 10€ cheaper, guess I'll get that one then

btw this got me interested in 11900 nonk

11700K [365€]
DL Boost, Turbo Boost Max 3.0 (5.00GHz), Turbo Boost 2.0 (4.90GHz)

11900(f) [375€]
DL Boost, Thermal Velocity Boost (5.20GHz), Turbo Boost Max 3.0 (5.10GHz), Turbo Boost 2.0 (5.00GHz)

11900K [522€]
DL Boost, Thermal Velocity Boost (5.30GHz), Turbo Boost Max 3.0 (5.20GHz), Turbo Boost 2.0 (5.10GHz)





EDIT: this is what I mean, 11900 non k all core boost 4.7Ghz vs 4.6Ghz by 11700K and 11900 should have higher boosting by unlocked power limit, no?

 

[Shou Miko]

@TheHunter depends all on the motherboard and how the vendor implaments Intel's specs.
Steve from Hardware unboxed and Steve from Gamers Nexus have talked about this a couple of times if not more.

Here is the pricing me:
i9-11900KF costs £483 / $661
i9-11900K costs £428 / $586 this is a on sale a webshop have it on sale normal price is £483 / $661 which is the same price as KF and here you get onboard Intel UHD graphics for backup if needed one day.
i9-11900 costs £360 / $493

i7-11700K costs £310 / $424
i7-11700KF costs £306 / $418
i7-11700 costs £299 / $ 409

If Intel haven't fussed out because they implemented on giving the i9-11900 skus 10cores and 20thread when adding PCI-E 4.0 the prices out have made sense but they don't when performance in testing shows the i7 and i9 specially in gaming are about the same if not the same all the time.

Plus the costs of KF sku's doesn't care really badly priced, yes I get that Intel can use the CPU that have a bad graphics chip on them but it doesn't justify the price either disabling or no implement the graphics chips.

At the end I see the prices for the i7-11700K vs non-K here seriously if you are this tight on a budget building a PC you want to save like £11 / $15 you go out and pick it up on the streets because the savings is just bad.


All and all Intel had to cut the core down in favour of PCI-E 4.0 so Intel is like here the i9 11gen you buy more then before and you get 2cores and 4thread less and we laugh at you not picking the i7 11gen instead and save the money.

Intel should just have skipped the i9 or really thought about what I wanted to bring with the i9 because velocity boost doesn't cost £173 / $237 to implament which is the only thing that you spot is the difference so save this money buy a better motherboard, cooling or in these times they have for a better graphics.

 

[AusWolf]

Yeah I just checked now and I saw normal 11700K being 10€ cheaper, guess I'll get that one then

btw this got me interested in 11900 nonk

11700K [365€]
DL Boost, Turbo Boost Max 3.0 (5.00GHz), Turbo Boost 2.0 (4.90GHz)

11900(f) [375€]
DL Boost, Thermal Velocity Boost (5.20GHz), Turbo Boost Max 3.0 (5.10GHz), Turbo Boost 2.0 (5.00GHz)

11900K [522€]
DL Boost, Thermal Velocity Boost (5.30GHz), Turbo Boost Max 3.0 (5.20GHz), Turbo Boost 2.0 (5.10GHz)

Considering these prices, if you don't plan on overclocking, the 11900F looks like a good option over the 11700K. Though I'd still take a look at the 11700(F). If it's considerably cheaper than these two, its 4.9 GHz Turbo 3.0 and 4.8 GHz Turbo 2.0 is something you won't feel over the K variant. What the K variants offer is higher power limits out of the box (it can be overridden in the BIOS, though).

 

[TheHunter]

Yes, I figured as much, but I think base all core by 11700 is 4.4Ghz, I would want at least 4.6Ghz, apparently that 11900 nonK does 4.7Ghz which is a lot for a locked cpu imo.

I remember back in Haswell days I wanted a real 8core, but at those 1000€ prices no go, how times changed

 

[AusWolf]

Yes, I figured as much, but I think base all core by 11700 is 4.4Ghz, I would want at least 4.6Ghz, apparently that 11900 nonK does 4.7Ghz which is a lot for a locked cpu imo.

I remember back in Haswell days I wanted a real 8core, but at those 1000€ prices no go, how times changed

In that case, all you need to consider is the price difference between the 11700(F) and the 11900(F), and whether the extra 200 MHz all-core is worth it for you. If your aim is only gaming, I'd say save the extra cash for a higher tier graphics card instead.