Intel Core i9-12900K Allegedly Beats AMD Ryzen 9 5950X at Cinebench R20

[The red spirit]

lol I love how you determine that is a bad investment for me without any information at all except for your assumptions.

I only focus on gaming.

I know a thing or two about keeping a cpu for years I was on a i7-970 for 10 years before going AM4. And i'm not even sure why i'm wasting my time responding since you wrote a novel based on no history at all from my side. I paid $440 for the 3800X in dec 2019. Sold it for $400 in Jan 2021 so for a year of use $40. I picked up the 5800X for $650 CAD however because of the prior sale from old cpu cost to me was only $250. So that was what I paid to go from Zen 2 to Zen 3.

That's still not how budgeting works and you paid over MSRP too. One good sale doesn't offset other poor buy. You still paid more than you should for 5800X, not to mention that 5800X was clearly intended to be overpriced since it was launched. Not to mention, that 3800X isn't all that much slower than 5800X. So it was bad idea from the start to even think about upgrading it. The final rub in a wound is that 3800X was priced quite poorly too and at least in gaming, it didn't make a difference between 3800X and 3600X or 3600.

Moral of the story you don't get to decide what is a solid investment for someone else when you aren't putting any funds towards their purchase. This whole post was just you telling me I should have gone intel......

The whole idea here is that neither of your AMD purchases made any sense to begin with. 3800X might have been passable if you kept it as long as i9, but you didn't and jumped after just a single generation. You would have saved a lot by not messing with AMD at all, buying i3 or i5 and keep it for minimum of 6 years.

Intel platform, over 6 years, would have cost you just 42 USD per year. And your whole Zen adventure is easily double that, closer to 90 USD per year.

 

[Makaveli]

I only focus on gaming.


That's still not how budgeting works and you paid over MSRP too. One good sale doesn't offset other poor buy. You still paid more than you should for 5800X, not to mention that 5800X was clearly intended to be overpriced since it was launched. Not to mention, that 3800X isn't all that much slower than 5800X. So it was bad idea from the start to even think about upgrading it. The final rub in a wound is that 3800X was priced quite poorly too and at least in gaming, it didn't make a difference between 3800X and 3600X or 3600.




The whole idea here is that neither of your AMD purchases made any sense to begin with. 3800X might have been passable if you kept it as long as i9, but you didn't and jumped after just a single generation. You would have saved a lot by not messing with AMD at all, buying i3 or i5 and keep it for minimum of 6 years.

Intel platform, over 6 years, would have cost you just 42 USD per year. And your whole Zen adventure is easily double that, closer to 90 USD per year.

lol you still don't get it.

Your focus on gaming means nothing to me I didn't build this computer to meet your needs lmao. You have no idea what my budget is only your own, so your opinon is based on your own budget. The final rub here is you don't get to determine what is a good buy or a bad buy for someone else.

You intel fans are ridiculous you are not converting anyone here. If I do another $250 upgrade when Zen 3d comes out you gonna tell me it was a bad choice and I should have gone intel.....

And this is my last response to you don't have time for your mental gymnastics.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Pretty sure CB R20 has no idea about AVX512.
If the results are even remotely real, then those new Atom cores must have gained some AVX or AVX2 capability though.

This is CB23?!, No 20 it says, leads me to ask why other outlets listed CB23 a new version.

 

[The red spirit]

lol you still don't get it.

Your focus on gaming means nothing to me I didn't build this computer to meet your needs lmao. You have no idea what my budget is only your own, so your opinon is based on your own budget. The final rub here is you don't get to determine what is a good buy or a bad buy for someone else.

You intel fans are ridiculous you are not converting anyone here. If I do another $250 upgrade when Zen 3d comes out you gonna tell me it was a bad choice and I should have gone intel.....

And this is my last response to you don't have time for your mental gymnastics.

I don't think that you understand what I say. I'm saying that you shouldn't have bought any AMD chip or board at all and instead went Intel from the start. Not for fanboyism, but due to how dirt cheap those i5s were and still are. Despite low cost, they will last for a while too. It has nothing to do with Intel, it's just that they managed to make good, but way cheaper chip than AMD. If AMD did the same, I would recommend them too. And if you actually care at least a little bit about your cash, don't buy that Zen 3D. Unless it's 3 tiems faster than 5800X, it won't be worth upgrading from 5800X. Let that 5800X provide some value for you. You only get value if you upgrade as little as possible and if you upgrade, then get stuff as cheap as possible and buy something that will last. If you just buy every single gen (even if you sell it), you are not saving anything, but spending way more than you should for minimal gains. I could understand you, if you needed more cores for productivity and then kept that 3800X, but not when you upgrade every gen.

 

[Makaveli]

Lets get back on topic you can send a pm if you want to continue dicussing my upgrade decisions.

 

[GURU7OF9]

The Red Spirit "yes" you are an Intel Fanboy preaching Makaveli should have bought Intel.
Sounds like he has recovered his costs very well. Yes the 5800x is the most pricey of the 4 cpus but prices have come down a lot these days and is only marginally higher than the others. As for X570 motherboards, you can buy some good boards for around $200US.
It's his money, whether you think its a waste or not, is not your concern.
Give it a rest mate!