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Many HDMI and Coaxial Antenna Cables in the Market Don't Meet EU EMC Regulations

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Yes.

I would assume it would have more to do with the place of manufacture, standards, testing, and qa/qc. Odds are probably good that a $5 cable or a $75 cable are manufactured in the same area.
Yes, since most cables are made in Asia these days, but not all.
I would guess a lot of the issues come from, either not following the standards, or there is too many standards/overlapping standards.
I would not be surprised if there was iso, ansi, ieee, and a bunch of others involved in some part of construction, testing, etc. at some point in the production of a cable.

End result is it's unfortunate that the earths resources are basically wasted.
I suggest you download and read the PDF for all the details, but how many standards do you recon there are for making housings for cables that aren't falling apart when the cable is being tugged extra hard? Admittedly they used some kind of jig for the pull test, so I would say it was a bit unfair to some of the cables, since the force ended up right behind the connector, which is unlikely to ever happen during normal usage, even if someone trips over a cable and yank it really hard that way.

There was also no functional test done to see if the cables delivered in terms of meeting the actual specs the cables were designed to from what I could tell, beyond the fact that they were not meeting the standard for interference with other things. So it's obviously just a partial test that suggest that there may or may not be other issues with these cables. Sadly we live in a capitalism, where money is the only thing that matters, be it to cut two cents off the production cost of something so the manufacturer can pocket the difference, or selling this with an unreasonable markup, because of the brand selling the product. Personally, I never understood luxury goods, but then again, I'm not from a rich family so...
 
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Buying anything has become more and more annoying. You have to do research all the time, because reliable brands, price brackets or shops actually sourcing quality products more or less are dying out. :(
Also makes you appreciate outlets with prober reviews.
Hi,
Indeed ran into a company named cables matter
Just hoping they live by their name lol
 
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Keep in mind that the antenna cables in the EU are different from the cables that are used for cable modems and most other uses in the US.
Instead of using F-type screw-in connectors, European antenna cables use Belling-Lee connectors, which are simple push-in connectors.


At least in Germany, this only is true for Cable-TV connections or Radio via Cable (which use the same wall socket essentially, just with One being female connector at the wall, One being male).
Satelite-TV or Internet via Cable-TV Provider (DOCSIS) use F-Type connections.

Source: I get my Internet via Cable-TV Provider and my dad was exclusively using Satelite-TV.

On topic: That might actually explain, why I got a better and more stable Cable-TV Signal and fewer WiFi problems, when I was using two at least 30year old cables plugged into each other to Cover the necessary distance. Just changing the Cable to a New, longer Single One gave me tons of problems.
 

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At least in Germany, this only is true for Cable-TV connections or Radio via Cable (which use the same wall socket essentially, just with One being female connector at the wall, One being male).
Satelite-TV or Internet via Cable-TV Provider (DOCSIS) use F-Type connections.

Source: I get my Internet via Cable-TV Provider and my dad was exclusively using Satelite-TV.

On topic: That might actually explain, why I got a better and more stable Cable-TV Signal and fewer WiFi problems, when I was using two at least 30year old cables plugged into each other to Cover the necessary distance. Just changing the Cable to a New, longer Single One gave me tons of problems.
Right, the way I wrote that might not have been 100 percent clear, as what I meant was that cable modems everywhere use the F-type connectors, although there's a version of those that can simply be pushed in place, but it obviously doesn't make as good contact.

Weird, as a single cable ought to be better, but hey, there are obviously bad cables in the market so...
 
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I suggest you download and read the PDF for all the details, but how many standards do you recon there are for making housings for cables that aren't falling apart when the cable is being tugged extra hard?
Wish I had time, as for cables, not really my area of expertise, I am a mechanical engineer, not electrical.
Now on a guess probably a few, there are probably a few set standards, and they are probably more options for testing.

Here in North America, most things are built to certain standards, but there are also 3rd party's that do their own testing and/or QA/QC either on request from the manufacturer or for public safety regardless of manufacture's wishes, I would guess some of it there is probably no 'standard' per se, but more of guidelines for either safety, or reliability. There is the CSA, UL, FM Global, TSSA, MIL, etc, etc. I know even VESA has requirements for 3rd party testing, but I do not know what they are.
Hmmm I do see UL Taiwan listed near the bottom.

As for mechanical/structural side of things, something that you typically won't see in warm climates is Charpy testing of steel, this is usually a request for impact testing for steel in cold climates, and yep, there is an ASTM apparatus for testing.
I would imagine the Nordic countries do the same but probably under ISO standards and Russia probably under their GOST standards?

The amount of standards, and information can be overwhelming.
 
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I keep the cables the time warner/spectrum guys give me. I've got a stack of them at this point and they're really HQ.
 
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