Microsoft Reveals Office 2021 Pricing

[windwhirl]

Varies by region. In some you can only use it on 1 PC. Talk about cons, eh?

Mind sharing in which regions that happens? That's rather strange.

 

[seth1911]

Libre Office is for Free, and not to spend 250$ like Microsoft Garbage, but i spend them (Libre) 100$

 

[zlobby]

Mind sharing in which regions that happens? That's rather strange.

I prefer rather not to, but I promise you it's true.

 

[plastiscɧ]

With about gentle force you can move so much!

If you own an official Office 2019, you can use the architecture of the 2021 Office with some "innovative tools" and know-how. For 0,00€/$!
I will definitely not reveal here how I did it. But with a little googling is already a big piece of work done and chutzpe you can get used to. And i want to make it official: NO virus-hacks needed!
Have fun with the tinkering.
Otherwise, Christmas is coming soon...

oh yes, i almost forgot to mention it; the innovative tools mentioned above have been officially published by M$. you don't need to go to the darknet to find them...

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

Libre Office is for Free, and not to spend 250$ like Microsoft Garbage, but i spend them (Libre) 100$

I can get office 2019 for under $40. Libre office doesnt include everything that MS Office does and thus can break files or at the least make them look how you dont intend due to formatting or what have you. Good for personal use, but at the end of the day, id still take Office over Libre/Open Office.

Quite the opposite of dumb. A sound business decision because you end up with regular cashflow.

From other businesses, sure. I wont be paying MS a subscription fee to barely use an office product. Ill stick with an older version (2019 and soon to be 2021)

Just like I wont pay Adobe a monthy or yearly sub just so I can use Adobe Premiere Pro. So instead, I use Davinci Resolve.

Its easy for MS to say that their subscription of O365 is doing better than say traditional licensing because 9/10 companies/corporations are going to be using O365 because those companies/corporations make more than enough money to fork out for the O365 due to the ecosystem that they have implemented for their business.

 

[ThrashZone]

Libre Office is for Free, and not to spend 250$ like Microsoft Garbage, but i spend them (Libre) 100$

Hi,
TPU does this monthly looks like thought it was a holidays thing so just monitor the News section for it this month if the discount code doesn't work now

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[windwhirl]

I wont be paying MS a subscription fee to barely use an office product. Ill stick with an older version (2019 and soon to be 2021)

Under that consideration, you could probably stick to a way older version, if you wanted. For standalone versions, It's all about whether you actually need whatever new features they might have.

There is the security considerations but once you disable macros and VBA, you're basically golden.

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

Under that consideration, you could probably stick to a way older version, if you wanted. For standalone versions, It's all about whether you actually need whatever new features they might have.

There is the security considerations but once you disable macros and VBA, you're basically golden.

I typically keep all software updated for security purposes. Im currently using office 2019. Ill be upgrading to Win11 here soon. Ill be doing before and after benchmarks and if im feeling cute, i may make a thread with the results just for shits and giggles.

 

[Arcdar]

Wait... what?

The student version DOESN'T include outlook? Who the heck came up with this idea to differentiate between student and home/office usage.... *sigh* ... what a bullshit idea.

 

[ThrashZone]

Wait... what?

The student version DOESN'T include outlook? Who the heck came up with this idea to differentiate between student and home/office usage.... *sigh* ... what a bullshit idea.

Hi,
Probably can link it to outlook.com just doesn't come with office outlook.

 

[windwhirl]

Wait... what?

The student version DOESN'T include outlook? Who the heck came up with this idea to differentiate between student and home/office usage.... *sigh* ... what a bullshit idea.

Use Thunderbird if you really need a desktop email manager and can't afford the home and business edition.

Or use the website of your email service provider.

 

[Arcdar]

Use Thunderbird if you really need a desktop email manager and can't afford the home and business edition.

Or use the website of your email service provider.

it's more about the fact that students would need outlook by far more than most home users - so this decision doesn't make any sense at all. Not about "what would be good substitutes"

 

[windwhirl]

it's more about the fact that students would need outlook by far more than most home users - so this decision doesn't make any sense at all. Not about "what would be good substitutes"

Ah, apologies. Back to your point, I don't know. Times have changed and people tend to carry a smartphone with them, so you got your email, calendar and reminders stuff there.

And for email management, I have seen people that just use Gmail's web service in spite of the amount of emails they send and receive daily.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Wait... what?

The student version DOESN'T include outlook? Who the heck came up with this idea to differentiate between student and home/office usage.... *sigh* ... what a bullshit idea.

That is because an email client is included with Windows now. Outlook has been relegated to professional use.

Use Thunderbird if you really need a desktop email manager and can't afford the home and business edition.

Or this! I use Thunderbird and love it!

 

[Deleted member 212040]

Me with my beloved LibreOffice on Linux: don't care

 

[Arcdar]

That is because an email client is included with Windows now. Outlook has been relegated to professional use.


Or this! I use Thunderbird and love it!

yes. and it works decently. but again, the point wasn't about "what alternatives are there to use" but the "why is this the differentiation between student and home" --- I bet 99% of the home users could also go without Outlook - while for students the teams & onedrive integration with outlook is by far more useful than it is for home users. And yes, teams works for most usecases, but not for handing in your papers / ppt's / etc. you have to send to your prof - which works incredibly well with outlook&onedrive in tandem though.

I just think Student&Office should be one version while home is separated and not "student" vs "home/office use" where the later get outlook and the former don't. I mean, there are more "office tools" which could have made the differentiation factor (visio, planner, access - and who even uses one-note anymore? ) so I just don't get the reasoning behind it being outlook.

 

[windwhirl]

yes. and it works decently. but again, the point wasn't about "what alternatives are there to use" but the "why is this the differentiation between student and home" --- I bet 99% of the home users could also go without Outlook - while for students the teams & onedrive integration with outlook is by far more useful than it is for home users. And yes, teams works for most usecases, but not for handing in your papers / ppt's / etc. you have to send to your prof - which works incredibly well with outlook&onedrive in tandem though.

I just think Student&Office should be one version while home is separated and not "student" vs "home/office use" where the later get outlook and the former don't. I mean, there are more "office tools" which could have made the differentiation factor (visio, planner, access - and who even uses one-note anymore? ) so I just don't get the reasoning behind it being outlook.

Well, there is Microsoft 365 Education, but you have to be part of a verified education place and a bunch of other stuff. I've never seen it, though, so I'm not sure how that works

 

[micropage7]

nope, although it has more features the last better one end on office 2013, especially when M$ trying pushing office 365 they "abandon" the standard office

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Office outlook is a bit different to setup so ms moving away from that is mostly support costs related.

 

[lexluthermiester]

yes. and it works decently. but again, the point wasn't about "what alternatives are there to use" but the "why is this the differentiation between student and home"

Because microsoft wanted to. Including the consumer mail client with Windows, the moved Outlook over to the professional version of Office as it has a feature set that is more focused on professional use.

I just think Student&Office should be one version while home is separated and not "student" vs "home/office use" where the later get outlook and the former don't. I mean, there are more "office tools" which could have made the differentiation factor (visio, planner, access - and who even uses one-note anymore? ) so I just don't get the reasoning behind it being outlook.

Ok, get onto the Windows Feedback app and tell them this. Might help.

 

[plastiscɧ]

With about gentle force you can move so much!

If you own an official Office 2019, you can use the architecture of the 2021 Office with some "innovative tools" and know-how. For 0,00€/$!
I will definitely not reveal here how I did it. But with a little googling is already a big piece of work done and chutzpe you can get used to. And i want to make it official: NO virus-hacks needed!
Have fun with the tinkering.
Otherwise, Christmas is coming soon...

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oh yes, i almost forgot to mention it; the innovative tools mentioned above have been officially published by M$. you don't need to go to the darknet to find them...

I am very glad about the real quick hotfix MS brought out.

I am very surprised that this giant is that vigilant. Next time a service-bill with taxnumber is attached (joking ).
Again a leak like the previous WIN11 version would have been a very unpleasing situation.

We, esp. me like the software and i bought it even for much more than the prices now since year 1999. I am convinced its worth it.

 

[chrcoluk]

It's plausible, but I'd really like to know why for sure. As it is, they've got me on the yearly SaaS tithe treadmill with Mickeysoft 365 as I've got a cheap deal from work (and the product is very good) and I'm not about to swap it for this, so I'm not a stickler for the old way. But it does seem odd when they're so keen to get everyone renting rather than buying. I wonder if they're gonna have some sort of combined deal with Windows for a bit more money. I'm sure they'd love to.

EDIT: Also, Outlook 365 is actually still Outlook 2016 with a few tweaks. I wonder if we're gonna get a 2021 version now with a new look and new features? Will it have rounded corners, even on W10? That would tick me off. I want the right style for each OS.

I noticed this as well, supposedly Office 365 is always the latest Office, but it has older code than the standalone office.

Is microsoft office so much better than free office software available to charge such insane price?

In my opinion for email yes, not so sure about word excel though.

 

[qubit]

I noticed this as well, supposedly Office 365 is always the latest Office, but it has older code than the standalone office.

Are you sure of that? It has constant updates so this seems very unlikely.

 

[windwhirl]

but it has older code than the standalone office.

Proof?

 

[ThrashZone]

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