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While I totally believe in preventative maintenance, I also believe in the "if it isn't broke, don't fix it" way as well.

Back in the days of these boards, both Gigabyte and Asus used some of the best quality parts in their boards. Are the newer caps better quality? Probably so, however, why take a chance of frying a motherboard for "preventative maintenance?"
Good point! :toast:
 
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And as a general rule, I fully agree with that ideal. However, exceptions exist. Capacitors are one of those exceptions. It's something to think about for the future.
Usually when there's a sentimental reason, bond. If you remember, I recapped both of those "Adison" Chaintech 6BTM boards, even some of the caps which seemed "OK", just to be on the safe side.

Under the normal circumstances, I would only do something like that on a non-working board, or at least if the caps appear to be bulging and leaking.
 
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IMO I'd only recap anything that is known to be considered bad. Which usually is UCC KZG and those chinese crapcaps like ChengX, I.Q, DS, STONE and GSC/Evercon/Sacon (with GSC being the epitome of crap.).

Audioave10's board isn't the case though, as it seems to have Sanyo WG all around the board.
 

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I picked up a Shuttle SN85g4 v2 the other day as intermittent booting.

Nforce 3 based 754 stuff quite nice and not that common.

PSU is the main culprit which I could have guessed.

Lots of failed caps in it. Only one I haven't to hand is the main filter and I am hoping this is the cause of the lack of life from it, only 4.7V on the 5vsb.

Motherboard has a few bulging OST so they must really have had it (OST rarely bulge) but still boots fine with another psu.

One of the reasons I think the flex/shuttle thing died on its arse is the PSU are all different for each model of shuttle, its a nightmare and the one for this is not used in many other models and does not come up on eBay very often.....
 

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Motherboard has a few bulging OST so they must really have had it (OST rarely bulge) but still boots fine with another psu.
They were likely exposed to more heat then they could handle. Cap replacement is in order.

One of the reasons I think the flex/shuttle thing died on its arse is the PSU are all different for each model of shuttle
Just fix the PSU. PSU's are like all other electronics, repair them and they're off and running.
 
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Yeah heat has definitely cooked them, and the fact they are all pretty turdy brands, OST Teapo and some Jamicons.

Shame as shuttles were not cheap back in the day.

The issue was a couple of dead 470uf Jamicons on the 5vsb that looked fine till I put them on the meter.

Well that was stopping it powering up, not much filtering being done by the rest.

All redone now with Panasonics, board too.

Just need to find time to stick it all back together.

Clawhammer was a bonus too :)
 

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Got also an old HP dc7600c workstation/office PC. Could be a base for a good XP system. I'll put pics later, already put some upgrades there, now checking Win11 as I installed that just a moment ago.

But by the first looks:

Pros:
+the looks
+it can be used vertically or horizontally
+the 5.25" drive bays can be swapped from vertical to horizontical

Cons:
-proprietary PSU form though the connectors are standard ATX
-PSU is only 365W
-it's P4 (640)
-the case is also proprietary, a standard mATX would work but the base of the motherboard has an integrated I/O shield
-pretty nonexistent ventilation

It supports Pentium D 8xx's at least, I need to check for a bios update as I have also a D935. I put already 4x1GB DDR2-800 and 8800 GT there.
 
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Got also an old HP dc7600c workstation/office PC. Could be a base for a good XP system. I'll put pics later, already put some upgrades there, now checking Win11 as I installed that just a moment ago.
Win11 on a Pentium 4 HT? Sounds like a lot of fun! Really curious about your experience with this system.
 

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Win11 on a Pentium 4 HT? Sounds like a lot of fun! Really curious about your experience with this system.
Ah no, oh hell no :D installed it on my main rig (Ryzen 3600 etc, on my specs)
 

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There were some solid offerings there. An 830 or 840 would be optimal and give new life to that old system. XP would be right at home on it.

Are you thinking of a small SSD for it? A 120/128GB model would be all you need.
I have a D 830 on my desk ready to go, I need to check if I have faster supported ones :)

Not gonna to get a SSD for those XP POS's, a HDD gives an authentic experience :laugh:
 
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I had an HP 7600 a few years ago. I put a GTX 650 in it & played NFS Porsche 2000 running XP. I upgraded the P4 640 to a PD 945 that I found. (My job has given me to chance to save old stuff that would otherwise be headed to a dumpster). Downside to the Pentium D is the stock CPU fan was really loud as the CPU heated under load. I agree with Lex, an SSD would be a really nice addition. Spinners... OMG!

I'm going to stick with my s478 systems for playing with WinXP in the future.
 

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I had an HP 7600 a few years ago. I put a GTX 650 in it & played NFS Porsche 2000 running XP. I upgraded the P4 640 to a PD 945 that I found. (My job has given me to chance to save old stuff that would otherwise be headed to a dumpster). Downside to the Pentium D is the stock CPU fan was really loud as the CPU heated under load. I agree with Lex, an SSD would be a really nice addition. Spinners... OMG!

I'm going to stick with my s478 systems for playing with WinXP in the future.
Did it support D 900 series straight or did you update the bios? That sounds cool as I could maybe use my D 945 there :)

edit: put already 4x1GB DDR2-800 and a 8800 GT there. Pics later like I promised, too lazy now :laugh:
 
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I don't remember needing to do a BIOS update on the one I had, I just dropped the CPU in & it worked. HP still has all the BIOS and XP drivers on their site though.

 

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I want to get some socket 7 stuff some day myself.
I have a 1GHz Thunderbird with the legendary AXIA stepping, 1466 wasn't a problem with it but my board died :(
 

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Lot of boards out there, but mostly with a Via chipset, so no OC :(
That was a MSI one with NF2 but wasn't the best. Well, I'm not sad that it died, I just need a better board :) AN7/NF7-S/Lanparty NFII or something...
 
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