Windows 11 General Discussion

[lexluthermiester]

So did Microsoft back track on no updates for unsupported hardware? as i just got 22000.258?
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Very likely a scare tactic like all the other nonsense that has come out of them recently.

The "up to" 15% performance loss on the stable builds due to bad l3 cache scheduler crap on Ryzen (and only Ryzen). There was a news article on it. Dev branch already has a fix, but it has yet to be backported to stable.

Didn't know about that. I'm betting a fix is included in 22000.258.
Or maybe not...

Download link & Changelog: Windows 11 update KB5006674 (Build 22000.258) - WinCentral

Windows 11 update KB5006674 fixes Intel “Killer” & “SmartByte” compatibility issue. Download link & Changelog - Read in Windows 11 News on WinCentral

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2021-10 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 for x64-based Systems (KB5006674)

22000.258

For those wanting to manually update;

Microsoft Update Catalog

Choose the Dynamic Update download option.

Or you can wait for the updated ISO..

 

[FireFox]

For those wanting to manually update;
Microsoft Update Catalog Choose the Dynamic Update download option.

do we need an ISO every time Microsoft releases an update?

 

[windwhirl]

do we need an ISO every time Microsoft releases an update?

No. You can check if it's available through Windows Update, like always.

 

[lexluthermiester]

do we need an ISO every time Microsoft releases an update?

No, but they generally update the ISOs as they go.

 

[FireFox]

No. You can check if it's available through Windows Update, like always.

I already updated, i asked because what it was said about the ISO

 

[Ruru]

I already miss the weather app... we just got that to Win10 and it's already gone dammit.

Otherwise Win11 Pro works fine here

 

[lexluthermiester]

I already miss the weather app... we just got that to Win10 and it's already gone dammit.

Otherwise Win11 Pro works fine here

They have weather apps in the store. There is weather.com too.

 

[Ruru]

They have weather apps in the store. There is weather.com too.

Ah, need to check that out, thanks for the tip

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

I received words that Microsoft refused to have the performance fix update available until the 19th, making it an out-of-band update!

 

[stinger608]

I heard that Microsoft refused to have the performance fix update until the 19th, making it an out-of-band update!

For the AMD Ryzen's?

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

For the AMD Ryzen's?

Yes, at least, if the problem don't also cause performance loss on Intel processors.

 

[Ruru]

For the AMD Ryzen's?

Hmmmh should there be an update?

(I have also a bios update to install... I'll install it later today)

 

[stinger608]

Yes, at least, if the problem don't also cause performance loss on Intel processors.

I hear ya there man. LOL

 

[lexluthermiester]

Yes, at least, if the problem don't also cause performance loss on Intel processors.

It does not. Been reading up on the problem. It is purely a Ryzen issue.

 

[freeagent]

I didn't perceive any issues in game, but I saw some hits on benchmarks all over. The system is still fast af, but some benchmarks say its not as quick as it should be.. I think it has better thread control compared to 10, maybe I am just staring at things too much.

For the in game stuff.. I play at 1080p/60 I highly doubt I would notice. Almost time to upgrade my tv.. I am typing to you on a 50" Hisense "kinda smart" tv. Either way I am squinting. I need glasses or this tv sucks.

 

[Ruru]

I didn't perceive any issues in game, but I saw some hits on benchmarks all over. The system is still fast af, but some benchmarks say its not as quick as it should be.. I think it has better thread control compared to 10, maybe I am just staring at things too much.

For the in game stuff.. I play at 1080p/60 I highly doubt I would notice. Almost time to upgrade my tv.. I am typing to you on a 50" Hisense "kinda smart" tv. Either way I am squinting. I need glasses or this tv sucks.

Sucks that I didn't mark up any results before updating :/ at least CSGO runs as fine as before

 

[Mr Bill]

I just received this update. Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22000.258.0

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

Almost time to upgrade my tv.. I am typing to you on a 50" Hisense "kinda smart" tv. Either way I am squinting. I need glasses or this tv sucks.

Looks like for 60 Hz stuff, the Samsung UR55 28-inch is stunningly good! It definitely doesn't look like washed out BS. The Samsung UR55 isn't a TV. I still have my 144 Hz monitors, if needed!
This is my first monitor that does UHD, finally!
TVs, OTOH, lately seem to be bull poopy lately!

 

[Ruru]

Using a "normal" HDTV here still and it does its job fine.

edit: I had a 59" 1080p plasma before but we traded TVs with my parents few years ago

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

Using a "normal" HDTV here still and it does its job fine.

We have a Sony Bravia (I forget the model code) that's built in 2009 (or near there) in the living room on the upper level and it's trucking along!

Then my father and mom have a second-hand Vizio that's still trucking! They both can do 1080, IIRC.

 

[R-T-B]

The trick with TVs is not doing a resolution, but doing it with full chroma data. Many cheaper ones don't, and most require a special mode.

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

edit: I had a 59" 1080p plasma before but we traded TVs with my parents few years ago

On the lower level of the split-level architecture, we have a plasma TV that was built in 2009. (42 or 40 inches, IIRC)

 

[Ruru]

We have a Sony Bravia (I forget the model code) that's built in 2009 in the living room on the upper level (or near there) and it's trucking along!

Then my father and mom have a second-hand Vizio that's still trucking! They both can do 1080, IIRC.

The plasma was a Samsung and so is that TV I have now.

Tho a plus that it's so "small" so it can easily be wall-mounted. This goes already kinda offtopic but anyway.

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

Both the Sony and Vizio TVs, are LCD. (IPS?)

 

[Ruru]

Both the Sony and Vizio TVs, are LCD. (IPS?)

That's VA on my Samsung IIRC

But on the topic, there seems to be an update coming which fixes the AMD performance issues

First Windows 11 Patch Tuesday Makes Ryzen L3 Cache Latency Worse, AMD Puts Out Fix Dates

Microsoft on October 12 put out the first Cumulative Updates for the new Windows 11 operating system, since its October 5 release. The company's monthly update packages for Windows are unofficially dubbed "patch Tuesday" updates, as they're scheduled to come out on the second Tuesday of each...

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