AMD BC-160 Cryptocurrency Mining Card Surfaces with 72 MH/s in ETH

[Exilarch]

OS: Linux Ubuntu/RedHeat. I wonder if the Red Heat Linux features Arnold Schwarzenegger.

 

[Bomby569]

That's not how this works, these don't have fans because they're meant to be placed in server racks.

with those insanely loud high rpm fans

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

humans are a useless species. capable of so much, yet so little.

this is a line from a movie!

If this rumor tuwns out true, and if there is enough supply, this could only push down regular GPU pricing about 10%, greed knows no bounds.

 

[Testsubject01]

true..

But big corporations are using pro class cards .. They have better support for applications, are more efficient and costy ... Miners are using lower grade cards (''gaming''), because of RoI .. (hobbies and freelancers dont buy bulk like miners)

Also, even greedy corps have budgets and limited projections on enterprises they endeavour in. Crypto demand and investments scale nearly infinitely as long as there are miners believing they might be able to still make ROI / profit.
And they buy ANYTHING that can mine: phones / tablets / laptops / consoles / consumer grade graphics cards.
To a degree even workstation / research / data centre hardware, but less so, since those already come with a very steep price tag without any scalping, which results in very unfavourable ROI (although we are getting there).

Like in the last attempt from Nvidia a few months ago (Did those cards actually sale this time?), I wonder if AMD will have any luck here. The only crypto specific hardware that did (and still does) sale, are ASICs.

 

[Space Lynx]

this is a line from a movie!

If this rumor tuwns out true, and if there is enough supply, this could only push down regular GPU pricing about 10%, greed knows no bounds.

do you know what movie?

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

Why would a 150W card need 2 8pin power connectors? Wouldn’t a single 8 pin (or dual 6) get the job done?

 

[Bomby569]

Why would a 150W card need 2 8pin power connectors? Wouldn’t a single 8 pin (or dual 6) get the job done?

maybe some best scenario, cost/performance i think. It says it outperforms a 5700xt so, at full speed it should go way higher then 150W or it would just be a waste of money and parts

 

[Franzen4Real]

Why? If these are indeed reject dies from Apple bin would it be better if they went straight to landfill?

Well, if it's true that these dies can only be used for mining purposes, then I guess our options are---

1) send them straight to a landfill
or
2) build them out with pcb's and all of the other parts required that are currently seeing major shortages, burn through mega watts of electricity with them, and then send them straight to a landfill

Probably just comes down to your stance on mining in general as to which one makes more sense.

It may be that ZoneDymo was just holding AMD to the same scrutiny that nVidia received for the CMP cards. Those too were said to be rejects not suitable for gaming cards, however that didn't change the opinions of the community.

 

[dragontamer5788]

With ETH slowly drifting away from PoW, I wonder how relevant these cards are moving forward.

ETH will be proof of stake in 2018... I mean 2019... 2020, 2021, oh definitely in 2022.

 

[MikeSnow]

Eth. went from $737 USD to $3,785 in the last year alone, or if you were to use currency terms, an inflation rate of... 500% or so.

Actually, that's deflation, not inflation. And deflation is worse than inflation, because the incentive to invest in something else that would be more useful to society is gone.

 

[EatingDirt]

Actually, that's deflation, not inflation. And deflation is worse than inflation, because the incentive to invest in something else that would be more useful to society is gone.

Ah, yes, I turned that the wording around but the point still stands whether it's inflation or deflation. Unstable currencies cannot be relied upon, and Crytocurrencies, especially unregulated PoW cryto, will never be stable enough to replace current established currencies. It's a libertarian techbro fantasy.

 

[trsttte]

It's unfortunate that they always omit the outputs on these cards making them more suited for ewaste than reuse but they'll still do nicely for compute application when the next mining bust happens (that HBM2 seems pretty sweet). Might also work well for VFIO with looking glass instead of using an output.

 

[Sandbo]

Probably will take a long time to break even, not sure if it will be a good investment.

 

[Jism]

"passiv design"

Only 86% as good as passive cooling.

Also, these cards are just gonna become e-waste once the crypto bubble pops (if it hasn't already).

They are supposed to be put in casings that offer more then sufficient cooling. You cant run these passive as they would boil to shit and have it's core clocks go down.

Ive never seen a 150W passive GPU design either. And it would take quite some space too for the heatsink(s).

 

[Muaadib]

Off-topic but I can't wait for my wattmeter to arrive. Wanna check power consumption of electronic things in the household real-time and geek out so much.

Go nuts! I had a fun time proving to my family how my PC is consuming less than the incandescent bulb in the yard. Or how an older 32" LCD TV consumes double the power of a newer 40" one.

 

[Blaylock]

ETH will be proof of stake in 2018... I mean 2019... 2020, 2021, oh definitely in 2022.

This about sums it up, but I'm pretty sure it's going to happen in 2022, just not sure when.

For those of you that believe mining only contributes to the landfill, what is your take on mining with older used gaming cards that will end in a landfill regardless?

 

[trsttte]

For those of you that believe mining only contributes to the landfill, what is your take on mining with older used gaming cards that will end in a landfill regardless?

What? That's nuts, everyone loves to complain but they'll love it when the used market get's filled with used cards and the prices come way down. It will be like christmas for a lot of people and researchers who will be able to access hardware they wouldn't have otherwise. This of course speaking only of GPUs, dedicated ASICs yeah, pure ewaste.

It's true the current state of affairs is terrible but access to GPUs isn't a right of gamers, and with the AI market continuing to grow it's not like a certain level of strain (nothing comparable to now to be clear) won't remain in place as well as some of the price increases.

IMO the biggest waste factor of crypto is power, but currently it's also becoming a driver of new renewable plants which will stay online after the crypto crash and/or proof of stake takeover, so.. terrible but trying to get better