Windows 11 Performance Issues on Ryzen Fixed by Updates from Microsoft and AMD

R-T-B · Oct 24, 2021

rvalencia said:
FYI, Ryzen 3 3200U and 3250U are also Zen 1 APUs and it's on WIndows 11s' CPU supported list. https://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-ryzen-3-3250u LOL

Yep they are the oddduck exception.

Mussels · Oct 24, 2021

rvalencia said:
FYI, Ryzen 3 3200U and 3250U are also Zen 1 APUs and it's on WIndows 11s' CPU supported list. https://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-ryzen-3-3250u LOL

Because they have TPM 2.0

ValenOne · Oct 26, 2021

Mussels said:
Because they have TPM 2.0

All Ryzen APUs have fTPM 2.0. I have both Ryzen 5 2500U and Ryzen 4750U. Windows 11 installs and runs on 2500U with a single registry entry.

Mussels · Oct 27, 2021

rvalencia said:
All Ryzen APUs have fTPM 2.0. I have both Ryzen 5 2500U and Ryzen 4750U. Windows 11 installs and runs on 2500U with a single registry entry.

That's not correct, not all the APU's have TPM 2.0
First gen ryzen is not supported, and that includes 2000 series APUs

Yes of course they work with the reg hack, everything does

Zubasa · Oct 31, 2021

Mussels said:
That's not correct, not all the APU's have TPM 2.0
First gen ryzen is not supported, and that includes 2000 series APUs

Yes of course they work with the reg hack, everything does

Actually they install without any modifications and no warning pops up from the official ISO.

Mussels · Oct 31, 2021

Unless you have a newer gen board that adds TPM 2.0, first gen threadripper isnt officially supported

Found a few posts and complaints on reddit about that... unless this is part of that thing they did where TPM 1.2+ could install clean, but not upgrade from 10

Zubasa · Oct 31, 2021

Mussels said:
Unless you have a newer gen board that adds TPM 2.0, first gen threadripper isnt officially supported

Found a few posts and complaints on reddit about that... unless this is part of that thing they did where TPM 1.2+ could install clean, but not upgrade from 10

Both the CPU and the motherboard were brought on launch date.

HD64G · Oct 31, 2021

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1454778534929461249

So many problem for only one CPU manufacturer just when the other one brings to the market his new platform that should win at all costs or else the desktop market is lost for good...

ValenOne · Nov 1, 2021

Mussels said:
That's not correct, not all the APU's have TPM 2.0
First gen ryzen is not supported, and that includes 2000 series APUs

Yes of course they work with the reg hack, everything does

That's not correct.

I have Ryzen 5 2500U HP Envy 360 and (company-issued) Ryzen 7 4750U Thinkpad L14 laptops.

Ryzen 5 2500U APU has built-in fTPM 2.0 within the APU i.e. Specification version: 2.0

WIndows 11 TPM 2_0 Ryzen 5 2500U PC health tool.png

MS's PC Health Checker (running on Windows 11) shows green ticked TPM 2.0 for Ryzen 5 2500U.

MS's supplied single registry entry enables Windows 11 ISO to be installed successfully on Ryzen 5 2500U HP Envy 360.

Windows 11 installation is smooth when installed via the upgrade method without keeping existing apps. Windows Hello login camera and the touch screen worked as intended. Bitlocker feature ready to be used.

I don't see a "show stopper" difference between 14 nm Ryzen 3 3250U and 14 nm Ryzen 5 2500U.

Mussels said:
Unless you have a newer gen board that adds TPM 2.0, first gen threadripper isnt officially supported

Found a few posts and complaints on reddit about that... unless this is part of that thing they did where TPM 1.2+ could install clean, but not upgrade from 10

AMD's built-in fTPM 2.0 needs to be enabled from the UEFI BIOS.

AMD Threadripper 1950X has fTPM 2.0

Microsoft's Surface Pro 3 (Intel Core i5 4300U) has 3rd party TPM 1.2. I haven't attempted to install Windows 11 on this device.

Microsoft's Surface Pro 4 (Intel Core i5 6300U Skylake-S) has 3rd party TPM 2.0. Besides a single registry entry, Windows 11 has been installed via the in-place upgrade method on Surface Pro 4 without issues. I have installed updated Intel DCH IGP drivers many weeks before Windows 11.

Mussels · Nov 1, 2021

We covered that a few posts after the one you quoted, where i thought those APU's were Zen, not Zen+

1950x? TPM 2.0, but an unsupported CPU

Things like that are what make it confusing to keep track of

bug · Nov 2, 2021

Mussels said:
We covered that a few posts after the one you quoted, where i thought those APU's were Zen, not Zen+

1950x? TPM 2.0, but an unsupported CPU

Things like that are what make it confusing to keep track of

CPU requirements for Win11 are basically a mess: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/10/windows-11-the-ars-technica-review/2/#h1

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Mouse	Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard	Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD	Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
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Motherboard	Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded)
Cooling	Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate
Memory	2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V)
Video Card(s)	Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W))
Storage	2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s)	Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) \| Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) \| Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
Case	Fractal Design R6
Audio Device(s)	Logitech G560 \| Corsair Void pro RGB \|Blue Yeti mic
Power Supply	Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY)
Mouse	Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard	Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD	Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software	Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
Benchmark Scores	Nyooom.

Processor	Core i7-12700k
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Cooling	Custom loop water, 3x 420 Rad
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Case	Thermaltake Level 20 XT
Audio Device(s)	Soundblaster AE-5 Plus
Power Supply	FSP Aurum PT 1200W
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Windows 11 Performance Issues on Ryzen Fixed by Updates from Microsoft and AMD

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