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You should def advertise console cleaning. I feel like there is a big market for that.
Oh yeah, we do. Two different tiers of it. One is a simple blow out with compressed air(from and actual air-tank) with a toothbrush clean and wipe-down. The other is a more through clean involving disassembly and q-tip detailing. This is where we repaste the TIM. We will not be doing that on PS5s however once they start coming in.
 

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Oh yeah, we do. Two different tiers of it. One is a simple blow out with compressed air(from and actual air-tank) with a toothbrush clean and wipe-down. The other is a more through clean involving disassembly and q-tip detailing. This is where we repaste the TIM. We will not be doing that on PS5s however once they start coming in.

Why not on PS5's?

edit nm i just remembered liquid metal lasts forever. LOL
 

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Why not on PS5's?

edit nm i just remembered liquid metal lasts forever. LOL
also higher risk of leaks, etc.

I suppose a partial tear down is an option for cleaning fans without a repaste
 
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Why not on PS5's?

edit nm i just remembered liquid metal lasts forever. LOL
Yes, the LM TIM. There will never be a need to service it.
also higher risk of leaks, etc.

I suppose a partial tear down is an option for cleaning fans without a repaste
Right. The PS5 is surprisingly easy to take apart, so cleanings will be easy as well.
 
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Ok, just watched this and thought it would be very informative for those who are interested in the science of TIMs;
Everything about the methodology used in this video is something that can taken very seriously.

He followed up with this one;
I want to try this stuff!

LTT did a video on this stuff.

If any of you want to give it a try;
 
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yeah not paying $28 bucks for 3ml but I watched that LTT vid it did do well
 
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Ok, just watched this and thought it would be very informative for those who are interested in the science of TIMs;
Everything about the methodology used in this video is something that can taken very seriously.

He followed up with this one;
I want to try this stuff!

LTT did a video on this stuff.

If any of you want to give it a try;

Very useful to know that Indium needs such high pressures.

That honey performs so well emphasizes (to me) that it is really all about longevity and not a degree here or there;
I tend to agree to some extent with the comment in the third video about thermal conductivity "it doesn't matter"
but I remain skeptical about the 'optically flat' approach as things will warp with heat.

That said, people seem to test everything and anything except longevity, and I remain intrigued by the possibility
that a paste that dries might be superior by countering pump-out.

I'm not willing to pay some of the prices that go with some pastes; I got a lifetime stock of GD900 and moved on.


I see a similar fascination with computer mouse switches (the actuation pressure, the noise); I just get a long life
replacement and call it a day.
 

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I'm not willing to pay some of the prices that go with some pastes; I got a lifetime stock of GD900 and moved on.
And you likely bought something very similar to what was made in the video, which means you really are good to go.
This looks interesting, but where are the reviews? Those "Awards" at the bottom of that page are meaningless without third-party analysis to back up the claims. I'm not willing to accept the performance claims until it's been tested.

Granted, the prices aren't bad..
 
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I am concerned about any runoff, it being conductive and all.

And you likely bought something very similar to what was made in the video, which means you really are good to go.

$14 for 120g
 
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I am concerned about any runoff, it being conductive and all.
With that combination of metals, run-off is unlikely. What makes me dubious is the bismuth. It's a terrible conductor of heat and even with indium and copper in the mix, the properties of bismuth remain. Still, if they have made it work, I would like to see proof.
 
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How so? it melts at 59°C
Surface tension. Those particular metals have very low surface tension at these temps. Very unlikely to run and drip.

I seem to recall that alloys can have worse thermal conductivity than any of the constituent metals.
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While these are true statements, there are certain combinations that can yield better results than others. If this company has found a combination ratio that works well, then it'll be something. That's why I want to see testing..
 
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Okay so
this thread has been going for 28 pages
Is there actually any test of MX-5 in these pages yet?
If so plez link meh
 
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Okay so
this thread has been going for 28 pages
Is there actually any test of MX-5 in these pages yet?
If so plez link meh
There are, including some comparative testing done by me but I don't remember which pages they're on. Back in June or July of this year I think? You're going to have to look for yourself..
 
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Okay so
this thread has been going for 28 pages
Is there actually any test of MX-5 in these pages yet?
If so plez link meh

MX-5 was about 3C worse than SYY-157 thermal paste for me on a laptop GTX 1070 (TDP modded) and AMD radeon r9 290X.
But 50 grams of MX-5 is about $40 something.
8 grams of SYY-157 is about $15 I think.

Thermalright TFX was about 1C-2C Better than SYY-157.
But 6.2 grams of TFX is 40 so bend over and show your butt and your belly so it can be punched.
 
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But 50 grams of MX-5 is about $40 something.
8 grams of SYY-157 is about $15 I think.
That is both inaccurate and an unfair comparison.

8g of MX-5 is $12 shipped from Amazon.
20g is $21 shipped.

For proper comparison;
SYY-157 is $7.60 shipped for 2g
MX-5 is $6 shipped for 2g

If you're going to make price comparisons, take care it's apples to apples. Otherwise it just looks like transparent fanboying.
 
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Surface tension. Those particular metals have very low surface tension at these temps. Very unlikely to run and drip.

It is basically low melting point solder and I wonder if any flux is included.

If this company has found a combination ratio that works well, then it'll be something. That's why I want to see testing..

I am not sure thermal conductivity is such a big deal once one gets to say 5 W/ K m
 
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Never saw this thread, saw it on recent, read the first page and I must also add, that after a decade od MX2 and then MX4, I have never ever had a problem.

When I got my Vega, I changed the paste on the first day. 10°C difference and 150 MHz higher sustained clocks at same RPM.

I also used it to fix and old laptop for my mom. Old burned out OEM paste 70°C idle, new MX4 paste 30°C idle.

I guess I repaste my shit once a year.

The fact it's not electrically conductive and so easy to put on/off and offers superb cooling performance makes it the go-to paste for me.

Haven't tried the MX5 yet because the MX4 supply is still here :')
 

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AS5 still works good but good luck getting people to believe that :D

I would probably choose that over MX :roll:
 

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I believe, but then again, I'm a scientist...

That's a bit tougher to believe. AS5 is still good, but it is out-shined by the latest and great which are mostly on the same cost level.
Tomorrow is my Friday I will do a small comparison between SYY and AS5.

I don’t think AS5 will do that well, but I am curious because I have not tried in on my current CPU.

I tried MX so long ago I don’t remember how well it did, but I didn’t buy it again.
 

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Tomorrow is my Friday I will do a small comparison between SYY and AS5.

I don’t think AS5 will do that well, but I am curious because I have not tried in on my current CPU.

I tried MX so long ago I don’t remember how well it did, but I didn’t buy it again.

Get some GD900 bro
 
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