System Name | "Icy Resurrection" |
---|---|
Processor | 13th Gen Intel Core i9-13900KS Special Edition |
Motherboard | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 APEX ENCORE |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15S upgraded with 2x NF-F12 iPPC-3000 fans and Honeywell PTM7950 TIM |
Memory | 32 GB G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB F5-6800J3445G16GX2-TZ5RK @ 7600 MT/s 36-44-44-52-96 1.4V |
Video Card(s) | ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX™ 4080 16GB GDDR6X White OC Edition |
Storage | 500 GB WD Black SN750 SE NVMe SSD + 4 TB WD Red Plus WD40EFPX HDD |
Display(s) | 55-inch LG G3 OLED |
Case | Pichau Mancer CV500 White Edition |
Power Supply | EVGA 1300 G2 1.3kW 80+ Gold |
Mouse | Microsoft Classic Intellimouse |
Keyboard | Galax Stealth STL-03 |
Software | Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC 24H2 |
Benchmark Scores | I pulled a Qiqi~ |
System Name | (2008) Dell XPS 730x H2C |
---|---|
Processor | Intel Extreme QX9770 @ 3.8GHz (No OC) |
Motherboard | Dell LGA 775 (Dell Propiatary) |
Cooling | Dell AIO Ceramic Water Cooling (Dell Propiatary) |
Memory | Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (4 x 4) DDR3 |
Video Card(s) | EVGA GTX 980ti 6GB (2016 ebay-used) |
Storage | (2) WD 1TB Velociraptor & (1) WD 2TB Black |
Display(s) | Alienware 34" AW3420DW (Amazon Warehouse) |
Case | Stock Dell 730x with "X" Side Panel (65 pounds fully decked out) |
Audio Device(s) | Creative X-FI Titanium & Corsair SP2500 Speakers |
Power Supply | PSU: 1000 Watt (Dell Propiatary) |
Mouse | Alienware AW610M (Amazon Warehouse) |
Keyboard | Corsair K95 XT (Amazon Warehouse) |
Software | Windows 7 Ultimate & Alienware FX Lighting |
Benchmark Scores | No Benchmarking & Overclocking |
So to sum up, Intel's delivered the goods, but this model runs hot and is pricey. Seems to have taken back the performance crown. Imagine if they added in another set of core packs....
I think that once the dancing here is over the 'inconsequential' stuff like heat, pricing, platform upgrades, power consumption, etc. The Intel win for now will finally be real and surely settling-in with the many spectators here. Now let’s see Intel stock jumping (or not) in the weeks ahead. Because in the end it’s all about the money. Nothing else matters and reality as we all know bites.The power consumption and temps are concerning but you can't argue with that performance.
What a shame, I was told for months that AMD would go bankrupt today and I had hoped to buy some of their worthless assets to flip as I fully intend to buy one of the 5 Zen 3D prototype units they found the coins to manufacture before sinking into eternal debt, but instead I get 3% less performance overall and 3% more in games, no bankruptcy in sight. Sad!
On a serious note, I'm impressed. Alder Lake is an excellent platform and a feat of engineering, this shows. The power consumption may still be on the wild side and some compromises were made like the removal of AVX-512 support, but I understand what Intel wants to do here - they're increasingly going to focus on the performance and efficiency of the small cores going forward, which should eventually rival and supplant the high-performance ones entirely, while retaining the major advantages of that design. This is the Intel we want, an Intel with enormous engineering prowess, competitive prices and high availability.
Eager to see AMD's response, which thankfully will be a drop-in upgrade for me. That way my brother gets my 5950X, I flip the 3900XT I gave him when I upgraded, and I get a modestly priced upgrade for everyone by paying roughly half of a single CPU's price. Even though the GPU market is sad beyond belief right now, it's awesome to see that at least in CPU land, things are going well.
Cheers![]()
Processor | AMD Ryzen 3700x |
---|---|
Motherboard | asus ROG Strix B-350I Gaming |
Cooling | Deepcool LS520 SE |
Memory | crucial ballistix 32Gb DDR4 |
Video Card(s) | RTX 3070 FE |
Storage | WD sn550 1To/WD ssd sata 1To /WD black sn750 1To/Seagate 2To/WD book 4 To back-up |
Display(s) | LG GL850 |
Case | Dan A4 H2O |
Audio Device(s) | sennheiser HD58X |
Power Supply | Corsair SF600 |
Mouse | MX master 3 |
Keyboard | Master Key Mx |
Software | win 11 pro |
Reminds me of what happened when they realized that the Pentium m had a better potential than whatever they did with the pentium 4I honestly think Intel should spend more time extracting more performance from those E-Cores. They're actually faster than Skylake cores while basically sipping power. Very impresseive
System Name | "Icy Resurrection" |
---|---|
Processor | 13th Gen Intel Core i9-13900KS Special Edition |
Motherboard | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 APEX ENCORE |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15S upgraded with 2x NF-F12 iPPC-3000 fans and Honeywell PTM7950 TIM |
Memory | 32 GB G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB F5-6800J3445G16GX2-TZ5RK @ 7600 MT/s 36-44-44-52-96 1.4V |
Video Card(s) | ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX™ 4080 16GB GDDR6X White OC Edition |
Storage | 500 GB WD Black SN750 SE NVMe SSD + 4 TB WD Red Plus WD40EFPX HDD |
Display(s) | 55-inch LG G3 OLED |
Case | Pichau Mancer CV500 White Edition |
Power Supply | EVGA 1300 G2 1.3kW 80+ Gold |
Mouse | Microsoft Classic Intellimouse |
Keyboard | Galax Stealth STL-03 |
Software | Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC 24H2 |
Benchmark Scores | I pulled a Qiqi~ |
Alder Lake is a mediocre product in the best case, and a meh product in the worst case.
Intel has been sabotaging its own sales figures but this arrogant and stupid policy to always offer heavily castrated products compared to the top available Ryzen (for example the Ryzen 9 5950X with 16 cores and 32 threads).
12900K is only 8 cores 16 threads coupled with 8 small cores.
Should have been 16 full fat big performance cores and outsourced production to the TSMC proper 7nm process.
Intel is done.
The only thing that impresses is the fact that the performance delta between the Ryzen 9 5950X and 10900K and the slower 11900K was so gigantic, that now this miserable 12900K looks somewhat acceptable.
Well, it is not..
Processor | Ryzen 7 5700X |
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Memory | 48 GB |
Video Card(s) | RTX 4080 |
Storage | 2x HDD RAID 1, 3x M.2 NVMe |
Display(s) | 30" 2560x1600 + 19" 1280x1024 |
Software | Windows 10 64-bit |
3600 low latency is a fair sweet spot for Zen 3, Rocket Lake and Comet Lake imo.Using DDR5 6000 memory in your Alder Lake system versus DDR4 3600 skews the results in my opinion. Why didn't you use higher frequency DDR4?
Anandtech does that iirc, but I feel for our enthusiast audience that it's reasonable to go beyond the very conservative memory spec and use something that's fairly priced and easily attainableor whatever the [memory] spec of the chip is
System Name | (2008) Dell XPS 730x H2C |
---|---|
Processor | Intel Extreme QX9770 @ 3.8GHz (No OC) |
Motherboard | Dell LGA 775 (Dell Propiatary) |
Cooling | Dell AIO Ceramic Water Cooling (Dell Propiatary) |
Memory | Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (4 x 4) DDR3 |
Video Card(s) | EVGA GTX 980ti 6GB (2016 ebay-used) |
Storage | (2) WD 1TB Velociraptor & (1) WD 2TB Black |
Display(s) | Alienware 34" AW3420DW (Amazon Warehouse) |
Case | Stock Dell 730x with "X" Side Panel (65 pounds fully decked out) |
Audio Device(s) | Creative X-FI Titanium & Corsair SP2500 Speakers |
Power Supply | PSU: 1000 Watt (Dell Propiatary) |
Mouse | Alienware AW610M (Amazon Warehouse) |
Keyboard | Corsair K95 XT (Amazon Warehouse) |
Software | Windows 7 Ultimate & Alienware FX Lighting |
Benchmark Scores | No Benchmarking & Overclocking |
Processor | AMD Ryzen 3700x |
---|---|
Motherboard | asus ROG Strix B-350I Gaming |
Cooling | Deepcool LS520 SE |
Memory | crucial ballistix 32Gb DDR4 |
Video Card(s) | RTX 3070 FE |
Storage | WD sn550 1To/WD ssd sata 1To /WD black sn750 1To/Seagate 2To/WD book 4 To back-up |
Display(s) | LG GL850 |
Case | Dan A4 H2O |
Audio Device(s) | sennheiser HD58X |
Power Supply | Corsair SF600 |
Mouse | MX master 3 |
Keyboard | Master Key Mx |
Software | win 11 pro |
Looking at the current state of things, it doesn't look like Intel can afford to go beyond 8p core...at least without severely lowering their frequency. Right now, their Big.little looks a bit like a shortcut taken to get better MT performance without making a 400w CPU that needs a dual 360 custom cooler just for itself. Which makes me really curious as to how Alder lake mobile will behave. It doesn't matter if they got the best score on geekbench when the M1 max biggest strength is sustained those performances even on batteryTo me power consumption isn't usually a problem, but when you have a CPU that outputs as much heat as a mid range GPU it's starting to become kind of insane. Intel's E-cores would make sense in a laptop but now we know they're completely worthless because they still use a ton of power anyway.
System Name | Legion |
---|---|
Processor | i7-12700KF |
Motherboard | Asus Z690-Plus TUF Gaming WiFi D5 |
Cooling | Arctic Liquid Freezer 2 240mm AIO |
Memory | PNY MAKO DDR5-6000 C36-36-36-76 |
Video Card(s) | PowerColor Hellhound 6700 XT 12GB |
Storage | WD SN770 512GB m.2, Samsung 980 Pro m.2 2TB |
Display(s) | Acer K272HUL 1440p / 34" MSI MAG341CQ 3440x1440 |
Case | Montech Air X |
Power Supply | Corsair CX750M |
Mouse | Logitech MX Anywhere 25 |
Keyboard | Logitech MX Keys |
Software | Lots |
During the first quarter of 2021, Intel spent $3.62 billion on R&D, while AMD spent $610 million. There is a big message here with these numbers. Like I said many times…in the end its all about the money. The golden rule: "He who has the gold makes the rule."
I honestly think Intel should spend more time extracting more performance from those E-Cores. They're actually faster than Skylake cores while basically sipping power. Very impresseive
Reminds me of what happened when they realized that the Pentium m had a better potential than whatever they did with the pentium 4
System Name | "Icy Resurrection" |
---|---|
Processor | 13th Gen Intel Core i9-13900KS Special Edition |
Motherboard | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 APEX ENCORE |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15S upgraded with 2x NF-F12 iPPC-3000 fans and Honeywell PTM7950 TIM |
Memory | 32 GB G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB F5-6800J3445G16GX2-TZ5RK @ 7600 MT/s 36-44-44-52-96 1.4V |
Video Card(s) | ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX™ 4080 16GB GDDR6X White OC Edition |
Storage | 500 GB WD Black SN750 SE NVMe SSD + 4 TB WD Red Plus WD40EFPX HDD |
Display(s) | 55-inch LG G3 OLED |
Case | Pichau Mancer CV500 White Edition |
Power Supply | EVGA 1300 G2 1.3kW 80+ Gold |
Mouse | Microsoft Classic Intellimouse |
Keyboard | Galax Stealth STL-03 |
Software | Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC 24H2 |
Benchmark Scores | I pulled a Qiqi~ |
I see where you are going to.
Actually what you propose is that Intel should cut the P cores altogether and glue as many E cores as possible.
For example 32 E cores on a single die.
And see what happens in a 105-watt power budget![]()
System Name | Legion |
---|---|
Processor | i7-12700KF |
Motherboard | Asus Z690-Plus TUF Gaming WiFi D5 |
Cooling | Arctic Liquid Freezer 2 240mm AIO |
Memory | PNY MAKO DDR5-6000 C36-36-36-76 |
Video Card(s) | PowerColor Hellhound 6700 XT 12GB |
Storage | WD SN770 512GB m.2, Samsung 980 Pro m.2 2TB |
Display(s) | Acer K272HUL 1440p / 34" MSI MAG341CQ 3440x1440 |
Case | Montech Air X |
Power Supply | Corsair CX750M |
Mouse | Logitech MX Anywhere 25 |
Keyboard | Logitech MX Keys |
Software | Lots |
System Name | Lightning |
---|---|
Processor | 4790K |
Motherboard | asrock z87 extreme 3 |
Cooling | hwlabs black ice 20 fpi radiator, cpu mosfet blocks, MCW60 cpu block, full cover on 780Ti's |
Memory | corsair dominator platinum 2400C10, 32 giga, DDR3 |
Video Card(s) | 2x780Ti |
Storage | intel S3700 400GB, samsung 850 pro 120 GB, a cheep intel MLC 120GB, an another even cheeper 120GB |
Display(s) | eizo foris fg2421 |
Case | 700D |
Audio Device(s) | ESI Juli@ |
Power Supply | seasonic platinum 1000 |
Mouse | mx518 |
Software | Lightning v2.0a |
LMAO, the fanboyism, the delusions!Alder Lake is a mediocre product in the best case, and a meh product in the worst case.
Intel has been sabotaging its own sales figures but this arrogant and stupid policy to always offer heavily castrated products compared to the top available Ryzen (for example the Ryzen 9 5950X with 16 cores and 32 threads).
12900K is only 8 cores 16 threads coupled with 8 small cores.
Should have been 16 full fat big performance cores and outsourced production to the TSMC proper 7nm process.
Intel is done.
The only thing that impresses is the fact that the performance delta between the Ryzen 9 5950X and 10900K and the slower 11900K was so gigantic, that now this miserable 12900K looks somewhat acceptable.
Well, it is not..
Processor | Intel Core i7 11700 |
---|---|
Motherboard | Asus b560-i ROG |
Cooling | Thermalright Assassin King Mini |
Memory | G.Skill Trident Z 3600 |
Video Card(s) | RTX 3080 FE |
Display(s) | Dell S2721DGF |
Case | Ncase M1 |
Power Supply | Corsair SF750 |
Mouse | HyperX |
Keyboard | HyperX |
Intel is done? How? Even though they’re not the undisputed kings, they still have competitive products and pricing for non-halo models. Unlike amd they never in the latest years reached something like bulldozer shit-tier level that was kept being pushed for years and years until only but the time of not zen, zen+ or zen 2, but zen 3 to actually get to decent performance. Amd came back, and it’s great to see after dozer disaster, but it’s only way upwards for intel from here too as platform will mature with faster ddr5 and improvements in following lakes.Alder Lake is a mediocre product in the best case, and a meh product in the worst case.
Intel has been sabotaging its own sales figures but this arrogant and stupid policy to always offer heavily castrated products compared to the top available Ryzen (for example the Ryzen 9 5950X with 16 cores and 32 threads).
12900K is only 8 cores 16 threads coupled with 8 small cores.
Should have been 16 full fat big performance cores and outsourced production to the TSMC proper 7nm process.
Intel is done.
The only thing that impresses is the fact that the performance delta between the Ryzen 9 5950X and 10900K and the slower 11900K was so gigantic, that now this miserable 12900K looks somewhat acceptable.
Well, it is not..
System Name | Dumbass |
---|---|
Processor | AMD Ryzen 7800X3D |
Motherboard | ASUS TUF gaming B650 |
Cooling | Artic Liquid Freezer 2 - 420mm |
Memory | G.Skill Sniper 32gb DDR5 6000 |
Video Card(s) | GreenTeam 4070 ti super 16gb |
Storage | Samsung EVO 500gb & 1Tb, 2tb HDD, 500gb WD Black |
Display(s) | 1x Nixeus NX_EDG27, 2x Dell S2440L (16:9) |
Case | Phanteks Enthoo Primo w/8 140mm SP Fans |
Audio Device(s) | onboard (realtek?) - SPKRS:Logitech Z623 200w 2.1 |
Power Supply | Corsair HX1000i |
Mouse | Steeseries Esports Wireless |
Keyboard | Corsair K100 |
Software | windows 10 H |
Benchmark Scores | https://i.imgur.com/aoz3vWY.jpg?2 |
opening the 'New Offers' page, one price is $1097, which I think is a typo, while others are $1477 up to $1999Meh.. 12900K sold out, now selling for$1350$1599 on Amazon.
System Name | Legion |
---|---|
Processor | i7-12700KF |
Motherboard | Asus Z690-Plus TUF Gaming WiFi D5 |
Cooling | Arctic Liquid Freezer 2 240mm AIO |
Memory | PNY MAKO DDR5-6000 C36-36-36-76 |
Video Card(s) | PowerColor Hellhound 6700 XT 12GB |
Storage | WD SN770 512GB m.2, Samsung 980 Pro m.2 2TB |
Display(s) | Acer K272HUL 1440p / 34" MSI MAG341CQ 3440x1440 |
Case | Montech Air X |
Power Supply | Corsair CX750M |
Mouse | Logitech MX Anywhere 25 |
Keyboard | Logitech MX Keys |
Software | Lots |
opening the 'New Offers' page, one price is $1097, which I think is a typo, while others are $1477 up to $1999
and let me say I'm looking for that leaked "its 50% faster over AMD" bit.
Not really.According to Igor Lab's review (<- linked here) where they measure CPU power consumption when gaming -
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and measure watts consumed per fps
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Alder Lake is doing very very well.
System Name | Legion |
---|---|
Processor | i7-12700KF |
Motherboard | Asus Z690-Plus TUF Gaming WiFi D5 |
Cooling | Arctic Liquid Freezer 2 240mm AIO |
Memory | PNY MAKO DDR5-6000 C36-36-36-76 |
Video Card(s) | PowerColor Hellhound 6700 XT 12GB |
Storage | WD SN770 512GB m.2, Samsung 980 Pro m.2 2TB |
Display(s) | Acer K272HUL 1440p / 34" MSI MAG341CQ 3440x1440 |
Case | Montech Air X |
Power Supply | Corsair CX750M |
Mouse | Logitech MX Anywhere 25 |
Keyboard | Logitech MX Keys |
Software | Lots |