Noctua Introduces NH-L9i Low-profile CPU Coolers for LGA1700 and NA-FD1 Fan Duct

[Dredi]

How is cherry picked? is from techpower review and I also showed the anandtech, why cant you accept the fact what showed on the image you provided? 272w full package.

TPU was not measuring the processor power.

 

[R0H1T]

as this cooler will let you build one hell of a portable workstation

That's stretching it, it's at best a CM 212x level cooler. Best case scenario ~ it'll come close to a CM 412 cooler. Of course a lot will depend on ambient temps, near the tropics like in Asia or Africa or even down under (summers) this is no good for a "workstation" period!

 

[Metroid]

It’s not a theory, but a fact. The temperature will eventually stop climbing as the coolers performance increases with the higher delta t between water and air.

In your case the cpu just got too warm to function properly.

Also, how the hell did you manage to shut your system down with a 240mm rad and fans going full blast? Poor contact with the processor? Silly overclock?

There is that too, i mean poor contact, hard to make a perfect contact, need to try many times. Usually full load tests show if the contact is poor or good or perfect, need to check how fast temperature rise on loads.

 

[looniam]

How is cherry picked?

the CONDITIONS!

this cooler IS NOT marketed to overclocking enthusiasts!

 

[Metroid]

TPU was not measuring the processor power.

Like I said before I'm not sure, it said total system power and nothing else. Anandtech is famous to only tests the cpu full power = full package, default clocks of course.

 

[Dredi]

Like I said before I'm not sure, it said total system power and nothing else. Anandtech is famous to only tests the cpu full power = full package, default clocks of course.

And this noctua cooler is meant to cool the entire system?

 

[Metroid]

the CONDITIONS!

this cooler IS NOT marketed to overclocking enthusiasts!

I have never claimed it was, i said it was a mistake they used a 12900k for testing this low profile cooler.

 

[R0H1T]

Like I said before I'm not sure,

You can ask the reviewer for clarification i.e. @W1zzard

 

[Metroid]

And this noctua cooler is meant to cool the entire system?

No, but like i sad before it depends the total power it came from, not sure if they also used a gpu but even if they used idle will be like 5 to 10 watts and other things are minimal, like I said before idle system power is around 30 to 60 watts, yeah depends on many factors of course.

You can ask the reviewer for clarification i.e. @W1zzard

I'm not going to bother hehe, better to just take the anandtech review and call a day, like I said before anadtech is famous to only tests the cpu power consumption. I feel good seeing ryzen as 140w and alder lake as 272w ehhe, double the power for nothing extra, for single thread performance is very good, yeah buy that 12900k and disable everything, leave on single core hehe and be happy ehhe

 

[looniam]

I have never claimed it was, i said it was a mistake they used a 12900k for testing this low profile cooler.

what else are they going to use? locked chips that do not exist?

really use your head.

 

[Dredi]

Like I said before I'm not sure, it said total system power and nothing else. Anandtech is famous to only tests the cpu full power = full package, default clocks of course.

Here, is the 12900k power consumption, in your mind, what anands tests show it to be, or what tpus tests show it to be?

There is a difference of at least 80W. And considering TPUs test methodology it is likely even more as TPU tests the steady state max power consumption and not the peak.

The same applies to TPUs 12600k results. Capisce?

 

[Metroid]

what else are they going to use? locked chips that do not exist?

really use your head.

They sure must have had a 12400 in there, very sure, they are a multi billion dollar company and they get products faster than anybody else to test products and then release altogether with manufactures. I guess they must have been in a non disclosure agreement, anyway, they had the 12600k and they tested it, should have called it off but no, lets test a 12900k to brag with this low profile cooler hehe

 

[Dredi]

other things are minimal

They really are not. TPU measures system power from the wall plug. That means that the PSU efficiency and VRM efficiency need to be accounted for!

 

[R0H1T]

what else are they going to use? locked chips that do not exist?

Technically they could limit clocks &/or power consumption through BIOS. Or maybe they did that & listed max cooling capacity till 160W for it?

As far as I'm concerned the (unlocked) i9 should not be in there, despite Noctua's best intentions.

 

[Dredi]

Technically they could limit clocks &/or power consumption through BIOS. Or maybe they did that & listed max cooling capacity till 160W for it?

This is very likely what they did. As throttling based on temperature alone gives worse performance.

 

[Metroid]

Here, is the 12900k power consumption, in your mind, what anands tests show it to be, or what tpus tests show it to be?
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There is a difference of at least 80W. And considering TPUs test methodology it is likely even more as TPU tests the steady state max power consumption and not the peak.

The same applies to TPUs 12600k results. Capisce?

Yes, that is quite a difference but we need to understand that a 12900k is a 125w binned version of the 12600. So the one that did not make into a 12900k turned into a 12600 with few cores disabled, that 125w 12600 is very similar to a 12900k, 12900k full cores = 12600 disabled, not entirely but is a good indication. That 70 watts diference can be many things, 350 - 272w = 72w. It could very well be an indication of system idle too, 30 to 60w within the margin of error.

 

[Dredi]

350 - 272w = 72w.

Really? hehe

 

[Metroid]

Really? hehe

78 hehe

 

[looniam]

They sure must have had a 12400 in there, very sure, they are a multi billion dollar company and they get products faster than anybody else to test products and then release altogether with manufactures. I guess they must have been in a non disclosure agreement, anyway, they had the 12600k and they tested it, should have called it off but no, lets test a 12900k to brag with this low profile cooler hehe

holy massive assumptions batman! you just wanna throw things at the wall and see what sticks? its like companies have endless money to buy or give away samples left and right, yeah?

we are done here.

Technically they could limit clocks &/or power consumption through BIOS. Or maybe they did that & listed max cooling capacity till 160W for it?

As far as I'm concerned the (unlocked) i9 should not be in there, despite Noctua's best intentions.

no bios intervention needed if it is as i suspect - those speeds/power consumption is where the chip(s) thermally throttled. i don't believe someone who understands SFF challenges would have a problem with that.

 

[Metroid]

holy massive assumptions batman! you just wanna throw things at the wall and see what sticks? its like companies have endless money to buy or give away samples left and right, yeah?
we are done here.

Thankgod!!

 

[looniam]

Thankgod!!

again something that doesn't exist.

 

[Dredi]

That 70 watts diference can be many things

Let’s then do some napkin math, the difference was 78 watts to the anandtech measurements. If we take the same percentage offset (77% or so) to the TPU 12600k measurement, we get a power consumption of just 174W. Quite far from your ’over 300 Watts’. The actual figure is somewhat lower, as this method does not offset the fixed accessory loads correctly.

 

[Metroid]

Let’s then do some napkin math, the difference was 78 watts to the anandtech measurements. If we take the same percentage offset (77% or so) to the TPU 12600k measurement, we get a power consumption of just 174W. Quite far from your ’over 300 Watts’. The actual figure is somewhat lower, as this method does not offset the fixed accessory loads correctly.

319 overlocked as per the image and 224 per default clocks so you want to subtract that right so 224 - 78 watts = 146 watts, happy now?

 

[Dredi]

319 overlocked as per the image and 224 per default clocks so you want to subtract that right so 224 - 78 watts = 146 watts, happy now?

But where is the over 300W load?? I need to see it. Hehe

319 - 78 is less than 300!!! Though I guess counting isn’t your forté.

 

[Metroid]

But where is the over 300W load?? I need to see it. Hehe