ASUS and GIGABYTE Enable AMD Ryzen 5000 Series Processor Support on A320 Chipsets

[jonup]

FWIW I ran 2400g on a B550 mobo for awhile while i was waiting on the 5600G launch. I know it is not the same but B550 does not officially support Zen1 CPUs/APUs. I was a bit wary updating the BIOS but slowly but surely I update to the latest bios, flashing just about every bios in between. They all worked fine.
Also PBO is working on my original 2400G mobo - Asrock AB350M. 300 series chipsets are not supposed to support PBO. But I have PBO and Curve Optimizer maxed out at +200 on 3600(nonX). The kicker is that the mobo eventually got bios support for BCLK OC as well. So I am running the 3600 at 104MHz BCLK and +208MHz (+2 multi) with turbo (4575MHz) fully functional. This works with both X370m and AB350m bioses flashed on the mobo.
Moral of the story is, AMD artificially limits the support and I believe for mobo manufacturers it is easier to compile newer bioses off the same base code so there is cross support for all the different generations.

 

[mechtech]

The fact it has less cache means miners won't be snapping them up for the new coins that love AMD CPU's large cache, which will drive up their prices.

The new intel (129k - 30MB) CPUs are starting to get big L3 cache also. With more availability and better prices they may change over to Intel.

Xe 32EU isn't much to write home about but Vega 7 isn't exactly new or powerful either.
The grass is just as dead on the other side - at least until Rembrandt arrives with GDDR5 and RDNA2.

Maybe not, but Vega 7 on a 5700G is better than no gpu at all

 

[AlwaysHope]

You can't readily buy an A320 board anymore, this is for existing A320 owners to keep their existing system going for a few more years.

Not really, plenty of them still available on ebay, all shiny & new.

 

[gildedfist]

Just updated the BIOS of an Asus PRIME A320M-K motherboard, no support on 5600G/5700G yet, just 5600X to 5950X

 

[Melvis]

To get Alder lake like performance on a platform from 2017 (4yrs ago) is just amazing! Well done ASUS and Gigabyte.

 

[Dicfylac]

Crosshair 6 supports Ryzen 5800-5950.

I´ve checked are there is one beta bios from Asrock b450 that works on crosshair 6 however it has some issues on usb side and it´s not my interest the lack of stability.

The bottom line resumes to an extra hundred euros for a decent b550 board, and with the zen 4 in the next corner ( next year) I´ll wait for it.

 

[Ferrum Master]

That's because of bitcoin again?

 

[caroline!]

This proves how ridiculous chipset locks are. Same happened with AM2+ mobos and AM3 chips back in the day.
Intel is no different, remember 775 and 771? fast forward there were modders who were able to run a 9900K on a Z170 mobo, while physically compatible the CPU wouldn't work on older motherboards because $$$ so if you had a high end Z170 you were stuck with a 6th or 7th gen CPU.

It's just sad that you could get a super high end build and it'll be obsolete in 2-3 years because a "new" chipset comes out or the manufacturer decides to add 1, 3 or 49 new pins to their new CPUs to make them physically incompatible with the board you have.

 

[Jism]

This proves how ridiculous chipset locks are. Same happened with AM2+ mobos and AM3 chips back in the day.
Intel is no different, remember 775 and 771? fast forward there were modders who were able to run a 9900K on a Z170 mobo, while physically compatible the CPU wouldn't work on older motherboards because $$$ so if you had a high end Z170 you were stuck with a 6th or 7th gen CPU.

It's just sad that you could get a super high end build and it'll be obsolete in 2-3 years because a "new" chipset comes out or the manufacturer decides to add 1, 3 or 49 new pins to their new CPUs to make them physically incompatible with the board you have.

Chipset locks? They are budget boards in the first place. Stripped PCI-E 4.0 (signals, traces), no guarantee of working even if you fit in a PCI-E 4.0 compatible CPU and card. Minimal featureset really to save costs, and more important skimped out on things like VRM build, cooling and so on. And in this particular case it was a BIOS ROM limitation. Newer bios'es of better board just did'nt fit on low end boards.

However every AM4 board out there must comply with a minimum of 105W. It means that you can throw every CPU you have at it. And if your building a gaming based board, you dont need all the extra's that a premium or high-end board offers. Just a NVME slot, PCI-E and onboard sound and your good to go.

And chipset back in the days where baken as CPU"s are to this day. The best binning parts went up for high-end and the more faulty ones as budget. Nothing gets lost. And you get kind of what you pay for.

 

[R0H1T]

FWIW I ran 2400g on a B550 mobo for awhile while i was waiting on the 5600G launch. I know it is not the same but B550 does not officially support Zen1 CPUs/APUs. I was a bit wary updating the BIOS but slowly but surely I update to the latest bios, flashing just about every bios in between. They all worked fine.
Also PBO is working on my original 2400G mobo - Asrock AB350M. 300 series chipsets are not supposed to support PBO. But I have PBO and Curve Optimizer maxed out at +200 on 3600(nonX). The kicker is that the mobo eventually got bios support for BCLK OC as well. So I am running the 3600 at 104MHz BCLK and +208MHz (+2 multi) with turbo (4575MHz) fully functional. This works with both X370m and AB350m bioses flashed on the mobo.
Moral of the story is, AMD artificially limits the support and I believe for mobo manufacturers it is easier to compile newer bioses off the same base code so there is cross support for all the different generations.

Great, I'm looking to move the current 2700 to ideally a B550 ~ hopefully the mobo makers & AMD won't put their collective foot on the axe & close this loophole or however they'd label it.

That's because of bitcoin again?

What, who

 

[Speedyblupi]

This proves how ridiculous chipset locks are.

Another example: some Chinese companies sell motherboards with B85 chipsets and LGA2011 sockets as "X99" motherboards, and they work with E5 v3 Xeons and 3rd/4th gen i7 Extreme Edition CPUs. The only downside is that you can't overclock on them.
There's really nothing stopping you using any chipset with any CPU as long as they use the same interface (DMI/PCIe) and you can create a BIOS for them. Intel (and AMD, though they don't do it nearly as often) are just lying when they claim that there's a technical reason to remove compatibility. I at least respect AMD for not preventing the motherboard manufacturers from doing this, even if they won't officially support it themselves, unlike Intel.

 

[Ferrum Master]

Great, I'm looking to move the current 2700 to ideally a B550 ~ hopefully the mobo makers & AMD won't put their collective foot on the axe & close this loophole or however they'd label it.


What, who

Because there is a currency that is really good on Ryzen 5000 due to 64MB cache...

I don't know... but it kinda aligns with this as the only reason why.

 

[Metal-Tom]

Crosshair 6 supports Ryzen 5800-5950.

But why not my C6E, which has X370 too?

 

[Mussels]

I saw this popping up on reddit, people were able to crossflash 300 series boards with 400 series BIOS succesfully in a few combinations (used on boards with BIOS flashback for safety)


My poor old AX370 would love upgradability

 

[sepheronx]

Because there is a currency that is really good on Ryzen 5000 due to 64MB cache...

I don't know... but it kinda aligns with this as the only reason why.

Without clicking link, I am assuming its Raptoreum.

If that was the case, then getting Intel Xeon 2XXX v3 series CPU's would be expensive and hard to get cause I can make about $2 USD a day in profit per cpu with those, which makes them a far better deal price to performance than those 5000 series AMD CPU's. Much lower ROI. Yet I can still get em for cheap.

 

[seth1911]

AMD is such of a great Company, first with B450 and now A320.

 

[Metal-Tom]

AMD is such of a great Company, first with B450 and now A320.

A singular Wish I've got too: they should please include the X370 Chipset, in because of the A320