Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 2x 16 GB

[EmrickX51]

Above 6000 is difficult to run 1T
1.3 MC 1.25 SA should be enough (2x SR), adding more looks no benefit so far unless you have a good CPU sample with extreme cooling
VDD & VDDQ 1.35 not enough to hold 6000@1T
SK Hynix spec sheet regular daily use could bear up to 1.5v; for regular program mode, PMIC I remember is Max output 1.435v, you could try VDD 1.435 VDDQ 1.385 MC 1.4 SA 1.35
But my friends remind me basically they need to enable the high voltage mode for more to stay 1T, they rather running higher clock at 2T, which getting more benefit.
Alder Lake and Zen3+ prefer higher clock memory (to get higher clock on memory controller), the larger L3 cache makes the DDR4/5 memory latency not that important (but indeed still important somehow)

Mine Z690-F, weak in DDR5 OC
Some samples and data come from my friends, APEX, Hero and Extreme. APEX no doubt the best in ROG for DDR5 OC or tuning
MSI Z690 Unify-X should be another good platform, however, they have not received the sample yet

 

[wheresmycar]

DDR4 vs. DDR5 on Intel Core i9-12900K Alder Lake Review

The Intel Alder Lake platform has support for both DDR5 and DDR4 memory. We ran 38 application benchmarks and 10 games at multiple DDR4 configurations to learn what performance to expect when using DDR4 vs. DDR5 on 12th Gen, and whether there's a point at which DDR4 performance can beat the much...

www.techpowerup.com

thats so weird... i actually saw that article/review when it appeared on the front page. I think i'm losing my brain cells.

So i take it DDR5 doesn't necessarily see any significant gains for gaming. Good!! I'll stick with my 7700K and 3600X with DDR4 for the time being (always indecisive, me ). Won't be long and I'll be egging-on for an upgrade again... just need to build/upgrade and i can't shake off the itch for too long.

 

[ir_cow]

Above 6000 is difficult to run 1T
1.3 MC 1.25 SA should be enough (2x SR), adding more looks no benefit so far unless you have a good CPU sample with extreme cooling
VDD & VDDQ 1.35 not enough to hold 6000@1T

Some samples and data come from my friends, APEX, Hero and Extreme. APEX no doubt the best in ROG for DDR5 OC or tuning
MSI Z690 Unify-X should be another good platform, however, they have not received the sample yet

I agree 6000 1T is unlikely. But I could not get 5200 1T Stable (or into windows without BSOD) with those voltages on the Hero. I guess neither of my CPUs can handle 1T or this Hero isn't good for it. I'll find out when I get more motherboards.

 

[EmrickX51]

I agree 6000 1T is unlikely. But I could not get 5200 1T Stable (or into windows without BSOD) with those voltages on the Hero. I guess neither of my CPUs can handle 1T or this Hero isn't good for it. I'll find out when I get more motherboards.

for Samsung ICs it’s easier to run 1T
Check this
Used ASUS preset (apex)
VDD 1.435 VDDQ 1.435 MC 1.4 SA 1.35

Source https://www.chiphell.com/thread-2371350-1-1.html

 

[THU31]

Impressive 3DMark results.

I will stick with DDR4 for a while. This might be the most disappointing memory launch I remember, considering the significant clock speed increase.
DDR3-2133 was quite common, and DDR4 launched at 2133 and 2400. The lowest official speed was 1600, but I never saw this anywhere.
The highest common DDR4 speed for enthusiasts is 3600, going past that gets very expensive, and over 4000 is just insane.
DDR5 starts at 4800, and 5200 is very accessible to. That is a huge difference, but neither offers any real performance increase over 3600 DDR4. Add to that the much higher power consumption (which translates into heat). No, thank you.

 

[CandymanGR]

any suggestions?

I would say you are the expert, but i can propose the following:
Adobe Premiere (rendering a project with a LOTS of effects and video shots), After Effects, Compression apps (like winrar), and also integrated gpu scenarios.
Not Photoshop (doesn't get affected that much) and not in 3d apps like 3dsmax or blender because when you are in GPU render mode, the system ram is being used once to load everything to VRAM. So it would seem not that important in that scenario. Also actually Web browsers with a lot of tabs open can use lots of ram at the same time and might have performance differences between different memory modules.
Plus i think it would be nice to test the modules on both AMD and Intel platforms, for comparison on performance. Not in this case obviously since it is ddr5, but i mean in general. (edited)

P.S. Sorry for being "smartass", but i really think apps don't get the same attention as gaming benchmarks do.

 

[W1zzard]

Adobe Premiere (rendering a project with a LOTS of effects and video shots), After Effects,

Do you happen to have sample projects that we could use as base for such testing?

 

[CandymanGR]

Do you happen to have sample projects that we could use as base for such testing?

I have some projects that i have made myself, but i don't know how demanding they actually are for this purpose. Also, they are in the size of gigabytes (including source videos, after effects layers, etc), so even if you want them, i don't even know how to send them (my line is just a 12mbps ADSL).

 

[W1zzard]

I have some projects that i have made myself, but i don't know how demanding they actually are for this purpose. Also, they are in the size of gigabytes (including source videos, after effects layers, etc), so even if you want them, i don't even know how to send them (my line is just a 12mbps ADSL).

would love to take a look. maybe upload it to some kind of cloud storage? mega? it's not urgent, maybe you could split it into multiple RARs and upload them overnight over a couple of days?

 

[Wirko]

Is this usable? As it seems, it's Adobe's official (?) benchmark.

https://exchange.adobe.com/creativecloud.details.105878.pugetbench-for-premiere-pro.html

 

[W1zzard]

Is this usable? As it seems, it's Adobe's official (?) benchmark.

https://exchange.adobe.com/creativecloud.details.105878.pugetbench-for-premiere-pro.html

This is not the official benchmark by Adobe, it's made by Puget System who sell prebuilt computers. Decent benchmark probably, but I prefer to roll my own

 

[CandymanGR]

would love to take a look. maybe upload it to some kind of cloud storage? mega? it's not urgent, maybe you could split it into multiple RARs and upload them overnight over a couple of days?

You know what, i will try. I'll package all files of one project into a single .rar and upload it in Google drive so you can download it.

 

[ir_cow]

@W1zzard I have 2TB of 6K RED footage. But my projects are not demanding at all so it would be more likely minic an amateur or hobbiest rather than a professional.. My After Effect projects are 30 seconds at most. No tracking, greenscreen, or anything fancy. My Adobe work is also basic. 3-4 4K files on a timeline, simple cuts. If someone has a real project like Film Riot makes that would rock!

From my experience Davinci Resolve and Adobe Premiere are the big ones in the pro-industry. Grass Valley Edius is for TV stations.

These programs love VRAM and System memory. You can easily crash these programs if you add enough stuff and are short on ram. I have done Premiere encoding tests. The difference is 1-2 minutes for a 30 minute project from 64GB to 16GB. Ram frequency has no impact for big projects. At least not with 16 Cores. Maybe if you had a 64-Core Threadripper that could eat up resources like it was nothing. With standard consumer computer (IE: 16 cores or less). Everything is waiting on the CPU.

Not to mention this is all null and void since both Davinci and Premiere support H.264 GPU encoding.

 

[W1zzard]

Footage is not the problem, i can google for porn, what i need is filters and effects that are at least a bit realistic

and indeed, cpu for encoding really doesn’t matter much anyway, but many effects are still cpu based?