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See the date of this report on DDR5 by Anandtech. Or this report on DDR4 by TPU.
Yeah, 2017 for DDR5, and 2009 for DDR4?! Right?
See the date of this report on DDR5 by Anandtech. Or this report on DDR4 by TPU.
Processor | i5-6600K |
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Motherboard | Asus Z170A |
Cooling | some cheap Cooler Master Hyper 103 or similar |
Memory | 16GB DDR4-2400 |
Video Card(s) | IGP |
Storage | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB |
Display(s) | 2x Oldell 24" 1920x1200 |
Case | Bitfenix Nova white windowless non-mesh |
Audio Device(s) | E-mu 1212m PCI |
Power Supply | Seasonic G-360 |
Mouse | Logitech Marble trackball, never had a mouse |
Keyboard | Key Tronic KT2000, no Win key because 1994 |
Software | Oldwin |
Don't forget that these channels are half as wide, and those in DDR6 will be one fourth as wide. More channels will potentially bring a small advantage in random access, and that will be more likely in servers, where (and if) applications have long queues for memory access. More channels also need more complex IMCs (but at least the memory modules don't seem to be more complex because of that).Back to the news I find it interesting that DDR6 will have 4 channel per dimm instead of 2. So a 2 Channel/DIMM system will have effectively 8 channel. If you pair that with a 16 core cpu, you end up with 2 core per memory channel versus 4 with DDR5 and 8 with DDR4. We will see how it go but that will bring back the memory channel in line versus what we had 2 decade ago where a single core CPU had 2 memory channel for itself.
Wikipedia even states (but I can't find other sources) that "JEDEC began working on a successor to DDR3 around 2005, about 2 years before the launch of DDR3 in 2007".Yeah, 2017 for DDR5, and 2009 for DDR4?! Right?
Processor | Intel i5-12600k |
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Motherboard | Asus H670 TUF |
Cooling | Arctic Freezer 34 |
Memory | 2x16GB DDR4 3600 G.Skill Ripjaws V |
Video Card(s) | EVGA GTX 1060 SC |
Storage | 500GB Samsung 970 EVO, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Crucial MX300 and 2TB Crucial MX500 |
Display(s) | Dell U3219Q + HP ZR24w |
Case | Raijintek Thetis |
Audio Device(s) | Audioquest Dragonfly Red :D |
Power Supply | Seasonic 620W M12 |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Proteus Core |
Keyboard | G.Skill KM780R |
Software | Arch Linux + Win10 |
It would seem you're not wrong: https://tok.fandom.com/wiki/DDR4_SDRAMWikipedia even states (but I can't find other sources) that "JEDEC began working on a successor to DDR3 around 2005, about 2 years before the launch of DDR3 in 2007".
IndeedDon't forget that these channels are half as wide, and those in DDR6 will be one fourth as wide. More channels will potentially bring a small advantage in random access, and that will be more likely in servers, where (and if) applications have long queues for memory access. More channels also need more complex IMCs (but at least the memory modules don't seem to be more complex because of that).
System Name | Main PC |
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Processor | 13700k |
Motherboard | Asrock Z690 Steel Legend D4 - Bios 13.02 |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15S |
Memory | 32 Gig 3200CL14 |
Video Card(s) | 4080 RTX SUPER FE 16G |
Storage | 1TB 980 PRO, 2TB SN850X, 2TB DC P4600, 1TB 860 EVO, 2x 3TB WD Red, 2x 4TB WD Red |
Display(s) | LG 27GL850 |
Case | Fractal Define R4 |
Audio Device(s) | Soundblaster AE-9 |
Power Supply | Antec HCG 750 Gold |
Software | Windows 10 21H2 LTSC |
Its the world of tech, hopefully it never gets as bad as smartphones where the latest model is only the latest for barely a few months now.DDR5 isnt even super mainstream yet and they are already talking about DDR6... Sheesh. Might aswell keep saving my dollarydoos and wait for the DDR6 platform since DDR5 seems dead in the water so soon.
Its the world of tech, hopefully it never gets as bad as smartphones where the latest model is only the latest for barely a few months now.
Sadly I do think we going to see accelerated transitions between DDR generations. Like how we do now on CPU generations, the companies have realised it makes more money.
Gddr6+ for rdna 4 plus infinity cache will bring orders of magnitude of bandwidth
Processor | Ryzen 5700X |
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Motherboard | Gigabyte B550 Arous Elite V2 |
Cooling | Thermalright PA120 |
Memory | Kingston FURY Renegade 3600Mhz @ 3733 tight timings |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire Pulse RX 6800 |
Storage | 36TB |
Display(s) | Samsung QN90A |
Case | be quiet! Dark Base Pro 900 |
Audio Device(s) | Khadas Tone Pro 2, HD660s, KSC75, JBL 305 MK1 |
Power Supply | Coolermaster V850 Gold V2 |
Mouse | Roccat Burst Pro |
Keyboard | Dogshit with Otemu Brown |
Software | W10 LTSC 2021 |
You obviously forgot HBM3Gddr6+ for rdna 4 plus infinity cache will bring orders of magnitude of bandwidth
Not true, they now have enough money to develop multiple GPU designs simultaneously like they did for Zen.There isn't even RDNA 3 anytime soon, which means RDNA 4 is a thing from the very very distant future.
why are they talking ddr6 when ddr5 motherboards just came out
Not true, they now have enough money to develop multiple GPU designs simultaneously like they did for Zen.
DDR5 isnt even super mainstream yet and they are already talking about DDR6... Sheesh. Might aswell keep saving my dollarydoos and wait for the DDR6 platform since DDR5 seems dead in the water so soon.
Forreall ?.. but i do believe amd will take the performance crown from nvidia.. nvidia can't beat a mcm gpu with a monolith oneYou obviously forgot HBM3
I have internal sources confirming they'll release something that'll shock Intel/Nvidia/Apple heck their own shareholders, you just wait!
Not true, they now have enough money to develop multiple GPU designs simultaneously like they did for Zen.
Processor | 7800X3D |
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Motherboard | MSI MAG Mortar b650m wifi |
Cooling | Thermalright Peerless Assassin |
Memory | 32GB Corsair Vengeance 30CL6000 |
Video Card(s) | ASRock RX7900XT Phantom Gaming |
Storage | Lexar NM790 4TB + Samsung 850 EVO 1TB + Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial BX100 250GB |
Display(s) | Gigabyte G34QWC (3440x1440) |
Case | Lian Li A3 mATX White |
Audio Device(s) | Harman Kardon AVR137 + 2.1 |
Power Supply | EVGA Supernova G2 750W |
Mouse | Steelseries Aerox 5 |
Keyboard | Lenovo Thinkpad Trackpoint II |
Software | W11 IoT Enterprise LTSC |
Benchmark Scores | Over 9000 |
What, no one told me should I stop building rigs for people?!.
Processor | Intel i5-12600k |
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Motherboard | Asus H670 TUF |
Cooling | Arctic Freezer 34 |
Memory | 2x16GB DDR4 3600 G.Skill Ripjaws V |
Video Card(s) | EVGA GTX 1060 SC |
Storage | 500GB Samsung 970 EVO, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Crucial MX300 and 2TB Crucial MX500 |
Display(s) | Dell U3219Q + HP ZR24w |
Case | Raijintek Thetis |
Audio Device(s) | Audioquest Dragonfly Red :D |
Power Supply | Seasonic 620W M12 |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Proteus Core |
Keyboard | G.Skill KM780R |
Software | Arch Linux + Win10 |
Still, with the money I could have built a decent rig 5-7 years ago, today I can buy a decent video cardPC DIY has died about as often as PC Gaming. And every time it comes out as a more profitable business. Strange how that works.
We're persistent m*fkers.
Processor | 7800X3D |
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Motherboard | MSI MAG Mortar b650m wifi |
Cooling | Thermalright Peerless Assassin |
Memory | 32GB Corsair Vengeance 30CL6000 |
Video Card(s) | ASRock RX7900XT Phantom Gaming |
Storage | Lexar NM790 4TB + Samsung 850 EVO 1TB + Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial BX100 250GB |
Display(s) | Gigabyte G34QWC (3440x1440) |
Case | Lian Li A3 mATX White |
Audio Device(s) | Harman Kardon AVR137 + 2.1 |
Power Supply | EVGA Supernova G2 750W |
Mouse | Steelseries Aerox 5 |
Keyboard | Lenovo Thinkpad Trackpoint II |
Software | W11 IoT Enterprise LTSC |
Benchmark Scores | Over 9000 |
Still, with the money I could have built a decent rig 5-7 years ago, today I can buy a decent video card
Processor | Intel i5-12600k |
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Motherboard | Asus H670 TUF |
Cooling | Arctic Freezer 34 |
Memory | 2x16GB DDR4 3600 G.Skill Ripjaws V |
Video Card(s) | EVGA GTX 1060 SC |
Storage | 500GB Samsung 970 EVO, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Crucial MX300 and 2TB Crucial MX500 |
Display(s) | Dell U3219Q + HP ZR24w |
Case | Raijintek Thetis |
Audio Device(s) | Audioquest Dragonfly Red :D |
Power Supply | Seasonic 620W M12 |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Proteus Core |
Keyboard | G.Skill KM780R |
Software | Arch Linux + Win10 |
Somehow it feels like PC has been at the forefront. GPUs started to become untouchable since Turing, over 3 years ago.Yep... just holding on to what I have right now
Sign of the times, let's face it. Everything's under pressure. I don't think this is a PC thing.
Processor | Ryzen 5 5700x |
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Motherboard | B550 Elite |
Cooling | Thermalright Perless Assassin 120 SE |
Memory | 32GB Fury Beast DDR4 3200Mhz |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte 3060 ti gaming oc pro |
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB, WD SN850x 1TB, plus some random HDDs |
Display(s) | LG 27gp850 1440p 165Hz 27'' |
Case | Lian Li Lancool II performance |
Power Supply | MSI 750w |
Mouse | G502 |
Processor | Intel i5-12600k |
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Motherboard | Asus H670 TUF |
Cooling | Arctic Freezer 34 |
Memory | 2x16GB DDR4 3600 G.Skill Ripjaws V |
Video Card(s) | EVGA GTX 1060 SC |
Storage | 500GB Samsung 970 EVO, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Crucial MX300 and 2TB Crucial MX500 |
Display(s) | Dell U3219Q + HP ZR24w |
Case | Raijintek Thetis |
Audio Device(s) | Audioquest Dragonfly Red :D |
Power Supply | Seasonic 620W M12 |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Proteus Core |
Keyboard | G.Skill KM780R |
Software | Arch Linux + Win10 |
There's no crazy race, this is how the industry works. When you buy Zen3, someone is finishing up Zen4 and somebody else is already looking at Zen5.This crazy race for new standards makes no sense when the market can't supply any of them. And it will only drive prices even higher, something i suppose it's what they all want, cash in just like they are doing with gpu's.
Processor | Ryzen 5 5700x |
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Motherboard | B550 Elite |
Cooling | Thermalright Perless Assassin 120 SE |
Memory | 32GB Fury Beast DDR4 3200Mhz |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte 3060 ti gaming oc pro |
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB, WD SN850x 1TB, plus some random HDDs |
Display(s) | LG 27gp850 1440p 165Hz 27'' |
Case | Lian Li Lancool II performance |
Power Supply | MSI 750w |
Mouse | G502 |
There's no crazy race, this is how the industry works. When you buy Zen3, someone is finishing up Zen4 and somebody else is already looking at Zen5.
In case of standards, they take years to get right and qualify. Not to mention you need to correlate them with what you can actually build.
The only crazy thing here is people thinking only what they see on the store shelves matters.
Processor | Intel i5-12600k |
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Motherboard | Asus H670 TUF |
Cooling | Arctic Freezer 34 |
Memory | 2x16GB DDR4 3600 G.Skill Ripjaws V |
Video Card(s) | EVGA GTX 1060 SC |
Storage | 500GB Samsung 970 EVO, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Crucial MX300 and 2TB Crucial MX500 |
Display(s) | Dell U3219Q + HP ZR24w |
Case | Raijintek Thetis |
Audio Device(s) | Audioquest Dragonfly Red :D |
Power Supply | Seasonic 620W M12 |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Proteus Core |
Keyboard | G.Skill KM780R |
Software | Arch Linux + Win10 |
And that is a problem how?all you have to do is look up how long the PCIe or DDR generations lasted to see times are shortening fast
System Name | System V |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 5 3600 |
Motherboard | Asus Prime X570-P |
Cooling | Cooler Master Hyper 212 // a bunch of 120 mm Xigmatek 1500 RPM fans (2 ins, 3 outs) |
Memory | 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 3200 MHz (BLS8G4D32AESCK.M8FE) (CL16-18-18-36) |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte AORUS Radeon RX 580 8 GB |
Storage | SHFS37A240G / DT01ACA200 / ST10000VN0008 / ST8000VN004 / SA400S37960G / SNV21000G / NM620 2TB |
Display(s) | LG 22MP55 IPS Display |
Case | NZXT Source 210 |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G430 Headset |
Power Supply | Corsair CX650M |
Software | Whatever build of Windows 11 is being served in Canary channel at the time. |
Benchmark Scores | Corona 1.3: 3120620 r/s Cinebench R20: 3355 FireStrike: 12490 TimeSpy: 4624 |
... They're already working on Zen 8, btwWhen you buy Zen3, someone is finishing up Zen4 and somebody else is already looking at Zen5.
Processor | 7800X3D |
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Motherboard | MSI MAG Mortar b650m wifi |
Cooling | Thermalright Peerless Assassin |
Memory | 32GB Corsair Vengeance 30CL6000 |
Video Card(s) | ASRock RX7900XT Phantom Gaming |
Storage | Lexar NM790 4TB + Samsung 850 EVO 1TB + Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial BX100 250GB |
Display(s) | Gigabyte G34QWC (3440x1440) |
Case | Lian Li A3 mATX White |
Audio Device(s) | Harman Kardon AVR137 + 2.1 |
Power Supply | EVGA Supernova G2 750W |
Mouse | Steelseries Aerox 5 |
Keyboard | Lenovo Thinkpad Trackpoint II |
Software | W11 IoT Enterprise LTSC |
Benchmark Scores | Over 9000 |
all you have to do is look up how long the PCIe or DDR generations lasted to see times are shortening fast