Samsung Talks DDR6-12800, GDDR7 Development, and HBM3 Volume Production

[TranceHead]

Does it matter? Memory has gotten faster and faster, never slower.

DDR4-4200 is faster than DDR5-4200.
Don't be too hasty saying 'never'. In TPU's own tests, DDR5 kit tested was only 3.2% faster than DDR4-3200.
Early adopters get screwed in price and speed.

 

[Prima.Vera]

Samy talks DDR6, meanwhile DDR5 RAM modules are nowhere to be find.
Like, inexistent.

 

[bug]

Samy talks DDR6, meanwhile DDR5 RAM modules are nowhere to be find.
Like, inexistent.

Because the engineers doing the design should not be working as long as factories can't manufacture things in droves. Right?
Do you people ever think before posting?

 

[noel_fs]

DDR4-4200 is faster than DDR5-4200.
Don't be too hasty saying 'never'. In TPU's own tests, DDR5 kit tested was only 3.2% faster than DDR4-3200.
Early adopters get screwed in price and speed.

of course ddr4200 is faster because thats some godly binned sillicon, wait for when 5600 ddr5 kits start coming out at the price of ddr4 3200

 

[Punkenjoy]

Yes best binned chips of DDR4 4200 bellow JDEC SPEC 4200 DDR5. Indeed a stick with a set of the best binned chips for DDR4 will beat bellow average DDR5. But if we go that path, if we could had DDR at 4200, it would beat DDR4 by huge margin. That is just not possible.

But this is the end of the road for DDR4, there might be few higher performance kit in the near future, but that won't last and that will just extend slightly the limit of those memory. DDR5 are pretty untapped.

My understanding is to get good high speed memory stick, we need to have a very robust server/laptop/OEM desktop memory market that all use JDEC speed memory kit. They allow for mass production of chips that can be binned higher. Right now, not much use DDR5 except Alder Lake.

Once the Zen 4 Epic get launched and Sapphire rapid, we should see way more high speed kit. DDR5-8400 might become quickly the new DDR4-3200

and DDR5-8400 will completely destroy a DDR4-4200 kit.

 

[Aquinus]

Tech companies are always planning ahead.

This is how most companies stay alive and grow. Long term plans and strategies to achieve their goals. Even in software where things could change, something like a 2 year roadmap isn't unrealistic. You need to be able to plan ahead so you can convey that to your customers so they can plan ahead, particularly if you're building (or planning on building,) something that they need and are willing to pay you for.

 

[Totally]

Does it matter? Memory has gotten faster and faster, never slower.

I wouldn't say it's faster and might even argue that it's slower atm, it's like a car and a truck moving stuff from point a to b. Even though the car is faster than the truck, the truck requires fewer trips back and forth. It's slower but get the task done quicker. When the loads are car-sized that advantage vanishes.