Sapphire GPRO X080 and X060 Mining GPUs Based on AMD RDNA2 Navi Architecture Surface

[AleksandarK]

Sapphire, along with various other AIB partners from AMD, has been making graphics cards exclusively for cryptocurrency mining. With the arrival of AMD's RDNA2 generation, this has continued as well. However, the company has been doing it more quietly to avoid backslash from its customers already furious about the poor availability of graphics cards in general. Fortunately, El Chapuzas Informatico managed to get ahold of two datasheets from Sapphire that highlight features and use cases of its GPRO X080 and GPRO X060 mining graphics cards, primarily targeting Ethereum coin mining.

According to the source, the company has readied two models based on RDNA2 chipsets. That is GPRO X080 SKU based on Navi 22 with 2304 Streaming Processors, running at 2132 MHz frequency. Paired with Navi 22 GPU, 10 GB of GDDR6 memory runs at 16 Gbps speed on a 160-bit bus. This model has no display outputs, and the only connector is a PCIe 4.0 x16 slot that connects the GPU to the motherboard. Running at the default 165 Watt TGP, the card produces a 38.0 MH/s hash rate, while the optimized form of 41.6 MH/s reduces TGP to just 93 Watts.



Additionally, Sapphire also prepared X060 mining GPU, based on Navi 23 XL with 1792 Streaming Processors clocked at 2044 MHz. This model features 8 GB of GDDR6 memory running at 14 Gbps speeds on a 128-bit bus. Unlike the X080 model, it has a display output in the form of HDMI and DisplayPort connectors. Ethereum mining can manage a 27.8 MH/s hash rate at the default 100 Watt TGP and 29.4 MH/s at optimized 60 Watt TGP configuration. Sapphire prices the GPRO X080 and X060 GPUs at 750 and 550 Euros, respectively.

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[mechtech]

Well if there are specific mining cards that are better than gaming cards at mining that should help gaming card supply even though chips are getting consumed for mining cards as well. Assuming the price premium for them is acceptable.

 

[john_]

Well if there are specific mining cards that are better than gaming cards at mining that should help gaming card supply even though chips are getting consumed for mining cards as well. Assuming the price premium for them is acceptable.

Na, it will not. GPUS gone to mining are lost from gaming. And mining cards without video posts will never find their way to a gamer through second hand market.

This is the worst kind of environmental pollution. A product that sucks power that will be thrown to the dustbin when it will stop being profitable.

 

[Steevo]

Na, it will not. GPUS gone to mining are lost from gaming. And mining cards without video posts will never find their way to a gamer through second hand market.

This is the worst kind of environmental pollution. A product that sucks power that will be thrown to the dustbin when it will stop being profitable.

Crypto is a Ponzi scheme with only waste as it’s product. The ideas espoused are no different than cash and inflation.

Ban it.

 

[Rithsom]

Na, it will not. GPUS gone to mining are lost from gaming. And mining cards without video posts will never find their way to a gamer through second hand market.

This is the worst kind of environmental pollution. A product that sucks power that will be thrown to the dustbin when it will stop being profitable.

To be honest, I don't blame AMD or NVIDIA for trying to profit off of the mining craze. Most of us would do the same if we were them.

What really needs to happen is regulation. If there was a ban on mining (or the sale of mining cards), then none of this would happen.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

To be honest, I don't blame AMD or NVIDIA for trying to profit off of the mining craze. Most of us would do the same if we were them.

What really needs to happen is regulation. If there was a ban on mining (or the sale of mining cards), then none of this would happen.

*checks notes*

It looks like the prohibition went off without a hitch, yep, no speakeasies or crime resulted, nosiree.

 

[windwhirl]

To be honest, I don't blame AMD or NVIDIA for trying to profit off of the mining craze. Most of us would do the same if we were them.

What really needs to happen is regulation. If there was a ban on mining (or the sale of mining cards), then none of this would happen.

Ban crypto entirely. And then put fucking shackles on the money printers.

 

[mechtech]

Na, it will not. GPUS gone to mining are lost from gaming. And mining cards without video posts will never find their way to a gamer through second hand market.

This is the worst kind of environmental pollution. A product that sucks power that will be thrown to the dustbin when it will stop being profitable.

I wonder if it’s on glofo 12nm like original or TSMC 7nm?

Ban crypto entirely. And then put fucking shackles on the money printers.

This
Exactly this

 

[windwhirl]

I wonder if it’s on glofo 12nm like original or TSMC 7nm?

What, these cards? 7nm. AMD won't redo RDNA2 design to fit GloFo's 12 nm process.

 

[Chomiq]

AMgreeDia.

 

[Patriot]

Na, it will not. GPUS gone to mining are lost from gaming. And mining cards without video posts will never find their way to a gamer through second hand market.

This is the worst kind of environmental pollution. A product that sucks power that will be thrown to the dustbin when it will stop being profitable.

They can be reused so long as its not blocked in the driver.

Any cpu with an IGP can be the display out, and the gpu do the acceleration.

 

[Metroid]

terrible gpus for mining, minimum must be 256 bit and at 550 usd, my god, too expensive, when hehell crash hits this mining gpu will be 100 usd, trust me.

 

[windwhirl]

terrible gpus for mining, minimum must be 256 bit and at 550 usd, my god, too expensive, when hehell crash hits this mining gpu will be 100 usd, trust me.

I don't know if mining will truly crash. It seems like a repetitive cycle of lows and highs.

Anyway, AMD has already said they're not pursuing compute with RDNA and any of their future evolutions (including RDNA2, which is not so future anymore). Anyone wants compute, they can buy CDNA-based Instinct accelerators.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

I don't know if mining will truly crash. It seems like a repetitive cycle of lows and highs.

Anyway, AMD has already said they're not pursuing compute with RDNA and any of their future evolutions (including RDNA2, which is not so future anymore). Anyone wants compute, they can buy CDNA-based Instinct accelerators.

where did AMD say that?

 

[windwhirl]

They can be reused so long as its not blocked in the driver.

I wonder if AMD did that thing of cutting the display controller, video coding/decoding acceleration, and other bits off the silicon.

where did AMD say that?

AMD Confirms it Won't Block any Workloads on its Graphics Cards - Including Mining

Hot on the heels of NVIDIA's recent Cryptocurrency Mining Processors (CMP) launch and slightly debacled driver-level neutering of popular mining algorithms with their latest GeForce RTX 3060, AMD product manager Nish Neelalojanan confirmed to PC Gamer that AMD's stance is a fundamentally...

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AMD product manager Nish Neelalojanan confirmed to PC Gamer that AMD's stance is a fundamentally different one: that they won't be the ones to decide what their customers can or can't do with their hardware. His words, precisely, were this: "We will not be blocking any workload, not just mining for that matter."

Nish then went on to speak on how AMD - and its current RDNA2 product stack - have been specifically geared and optimized for gaming workloads. There are some architectural choices present in RDNA2 that automatically reduce its utility and performance when it comes to mining, such as its infinity Cache - an architectural choice that aims to increase gaming performance by improving cache hits, at the expense of overall memory bandwidth (the most important metric for actual mining operations).

"All our optimization, as always, is going to be gaming first, and we've optimized everything for gaming. Clearly, gamers are going to reap a ton of benefit from this, and it's not going to be ideal for mining workload

 

[mechtech]

What, these cards? 7nm. AMD won't redo RDNA2 design to fit GloFo's 12 nm process.

So just die harvesting all the ones that don't make the 2560 shader count for Navi 22?

Too bad in a way, the added capacity could help the short supply, at a cost of increased power consumption.

 

[silentbogo]

A bit underwhelming, even if the price is low.

Running at the default 165 Watt TGP, the card produces a 38.0 MH/s hash rate, while the optimized form of 41.6 MH/s reduces TGP to just 93 Watts.
...
Ethereum mining can manage a 27.8 MH/s hash rate at the default 100 Watt TGP and 29.4 MH/s at optimized 60 Watt TGP configuration.

With those prices(even before we take scalpers/middlemen into account), these are a horrible deal for miners. Even LHR cards make more sense than that with recent unlocks.
The only saving grace for GPRO X060 is display output(e.g. rebadged 6600), but hashrates are about as bad as a beat-up GTX1070. The other one looks like a defective 6600XT with a dead memory channel, and "linux-only" makes it even less usable.
Even the newly re-released RTX 2060S looks more appealing. Seen fresh batches sold locally around $850, but they manage respectable 42-43MH/s @ 120W while can be also used for gaming or sold later down the road. Haven't seen the infamous 12GB 2060's yet, though....

They can be reused so long as its not blocked in the driver.

Any cpu with an IGP can be the display out, and the gpu do the acceleration.

Not the case with X080. Die is probably so f#$%ed up and out of spec, that it'll only run headless on Linux. Hence the asterisk in spec.

 

[timta2]

I've always been a big Sapphire fan, but this is so gross.

 

[mechtech]

terrible gpus for mining, minimum must be 256 bit and at 550 usd, my god, too expensive, when hehell crash hits this mining gpu will be 100 usd, trust me.

If 256-bit card is minimum, then where are all the 128-bit cards?!?!?

 

[Metroid]

If 256-bit card is minimum, then where are all the 128-bit cards?!?!?

At least where I live, nobody is buying them, I guess not even for gaming.

 

[watzupken]

There is no avoiding that companies will prioritize miners over gamers. After all, miners are using the GPU to make money and therefore, make them more willing to shell out substantially more. In addition, mining cards tend to be cheaper to make since they don't need things like display out connectors and likely with a shorter warranty period (for mining specific cards).

 

[Sandbo]

29 MH/s at 60W isn't really that impressive. I know the price of current GPUs are insane, but just FYI my 3-4 years old Vegas do 40 MH/s+ at 100W or below,
and fact is also they were way cheaper when I got them.

 

[Chomiq]

29 MH/s at 60W isn't really that impressive. I know the price of current GPUs are insane, but just FYI my 3-4 years old Vegas do 40 MH/s+ at 100W or below,
and fact is also they were way cheaper when I got them.

Miners don't care. They'll happily put their hands on any GPU they can find.

 

[Arkz]

Crypto is a Ponzi scheme with only waste as it’s product. The ideas espoused are no different than cash and inflation.

Ban it.

Said by someone who clearly doesn't understand crypto and what the blockchain is doing. *laughs in 3080, 6700XT, and RX580*

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

I wonder if AMD did that thing of cutting the display controller, video coding/decoding acceleration, and other bits off the silicon.



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AMD Confirms it Won't Block any Workloads on its Graphics Cards - Including Mining

Hot on the heels of NVIDIA's recent Cryptocurrency Mining Processors (CMP) launch and slightly debacled driver-level neutering of popular mining algorithms with their latest GeForce RTX 3060, AMD product manager Nish Neelalojanan confirmed to PC Gamer that AMD's stance is a fundamentally...

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I think you took that out of context. Gaming still needs 'compute', as you put it.

What AMD said is that it wont block workloads, no idea where you got that 'pursuing compute' in your comment. The only thing you referenced [in your reply to me] is only about mining. AMD already said it wont block workloads like Nvidia is doing with LHR.

so you'll have to ELI5 for me to getr what you mean.