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R-T-B said:
That is the status quo. Note nowehere in your statement or in that article is a "master key" backdoor mandated.

Of course they are legally required to assist. But if it's real encryption (no backdoor), there is no real assistance they can provide beyond "what is the password?"
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Yup, backdoor is a big no no.
 
Chomiq said:
money.cnn.com

FBI says it has cracked terrorist's iPhone without Apple's help​

The Department of Justice has broken into the phone used by a San Bernardino terrorist without the help of Apple. The FBI says it "no longer requires the assistance from Apple." money.cnn.com
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That was an isolated incident with one phone. Most of the time cracking encryption doesn't work if it's done properly because it can't work.
 
I got to try it on my laptop, and i can't understand this back and forth from MS. Just like with 8 they fell they have the need to reinvent the wheel. Especially the start menu.

What they should have done was improve the formula not make triangular wheels. Complete the damn dark mode for example.
 
lexluthermiester said:
That was an isolated incident with one phone. Most of the time cracking encryption doesn't work if it's done properly because it can't work.
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To take it full circle, it was only able to work because Apple holds the keys in the phone in a TPM-like device and they were able to extract the key with some trickery.

Yet another reason hardware security is awful.
 
lexluthermiester said:
I'll echo what the others have stated, but don't use microsoft's built-in bit-locker. It has a known backdoor. Use something like Veracrypt. It's rock solid and has no known vulnerabilities.

Full disc encryption carries the benefit of guaranteeing that what you have on your drive will remain unseen by anyone who does not have the password. So if you have something worth protecting, or you need to protect, by all means encrypt your drives.

But if you don't, don't worry about it and just make sure you have backups.


No, they are not. Total myth.


Please stop giving people bad advice. You have no idea what you're talking about.
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I went to their website, Mr. Lex, and the whole affair of downloading and installing looks a little spooky !!!! ..... LOL :)
 
Kurt63 said:
I went to their website, Mr. Lex, and the whole affair of downloading and installing looks a little spooky !!!! ..... LOL :)
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?!? Wait, what?
sourceforge.net

VeraCrypt

Download VeraCrypt for free. Open source disk encryption with strong security for the Paranoid. VeraCrypt is a free disk encryption software brought to you by IDRIX (https://www.idrix.fr) and based on TrueCrypt 7.1a. It adds enhanced security to the algorithms used for system and partitions...
sourceforge.net sourceforge.net

VeraCrypt - Free Open source disk encryption with strong security for the Paranoid

VeraCrypt is free open-source disk encryption software for Windows, Mac OS X and Linux. In case an attacker forces you to reveal the password, VeraCrypt provides plausible deniability. In contrast to file encryption, data encryption performed by VeraCrypt is real-time (on-the-fly), automatic...
www.veracrypt.fr

What's wrong with either one of those?
 
lexluthermiester said:
?!? Wait, what?
sourceforge.net

VeraCrypt

Download VeraCrypt for free. Open source disk encryption with strong security for the Paranoid. VeraCrypt is a free disk encryption software brought to you by IDRIX (https://www.idrix.fr) and based on TrueCrypt 7.1a. It adds enhanced security to the algorithms used for system and partitions...
sourceforge.net sourceforge.net

VeraCrypt - Free Open source disk encryption with strong security for the Paranoid

VeraCrypt is free open-source disk encryption software for Windows, Mac OS X and Linux. In case an attacker forces you to reveal the password, VeraCrypt provides plausible deniability. In contrast to file encryption, data encryption performed by VeraCrypt is real-time (on-the-fly), automatic...
www.veracrypt.fr

What's wrong with either one of those?
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LOL ...... what I really should have said was i need to listen to you folks and read to get a better understanding of this ........ it is all new to me ...... I am done with the days of downloading something and using the software without a clue how and why it works....... :)
 
I returned to W10.

It was driving me crazy angry not having all those lost basic functionalities such as the start menu, the not-combined taskbar, the good old handy quick launch toolbar to have all my desired folders direct icons there, the logical context menu back, etc, all the backward steps of W11 are gone, all the lots and lots of daily unnecessary clicks to open basic stuff, etc.

W11 has a nice design but I couldn't stand losing all those functionalities for no reason at all, just going much worse and making me waste a hell of a lot of time every single day.
 
qwak said:
I returned to W10.

It was driving me crazy angry not having all those lost basic functionalities such as the start menu, the not-combined taskbar, the good old handy quick launch toolbar to have all my desired folders direct icons there, the logical context menu back, etc, all the backward steps of W11 are gone, all the lots and lots of daily unnecessary clicks to open basic stuff, etc.

W11 has a nice design but I couldn't stand losing all those functionalities for no reason at all, just going much worse and making me waste a hell of a lot of time every single day.
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.......and W11 does some goofy stuff with Firefox, enabling/disabling NVIDIA image scaling ....... just things the OS did not do under W10 ......... they are "glitches" I have encountered but just live with as they are easily fixable ..... too late for me to go back :banghead:
 
Kurt63 said:
.......and W11 does some goofy stuff with Firefox, enabling/disabling NVIDIA image scaling ....... just things the OS did not do under W10 ......... they are "glitches" I have encountered but just live with as they are easily fixable ..... too late for me to go back :banghead:
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Why can't you go back? I installed the iso myself.

For me W11 worked as fine as W10 and looks prettier to me, but those simple little things mentioned above where enough. I am an early adopter and love all new stuff and got W11 the first moment of receiving my new laptop meeting all requirements for it, but no way I'm going to waste millions of unnecessary clicks with no benefits at all, only the more modern design.
 
qwak said:
Why can't you go back? I installed the iso myself.

For me W11 worked as fine as W10 and looks prettier to me, but those simple little things mentioned above where enough. I am an early adopter and love all new stuff and got W11 the first moment of receiving my new laptop meeting all requirements for it, but no way I'm going to waste millions of unnecessary clicks with no benefits at all, only the more modern design.
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LOL ...... NO!!!! ..... that is completely out of my lane !!!!! :)
 
Metroid said:
Yes, I disabled the firewall and windows defender and everything was still the same. I dont know what to do anymore, I used to use firefox, now I'm using chrome for the time being.
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Just want to let you people know that my problem was solved, I guess my isp blocked many websites that I used to use, I might be related to data usage. I guess using too much content at 4k can made my isp to block some websites that stream videos and youtube was one of them, however what I dont understand is on chrome it did work without issues, it was blocked only on firefox, dont know how they can do that though but they did. Anyway, it was not anything on my side. It has been all good so far. Odd issue though.
 
Metroid said:
Just want to let you people know that my problem was solved, I guess my isp blocked many websites that I used to use, I might be related to data usage. I guess using too much content at 4k can made my isp to block some websites that stream videos and youtube was one of them, however what I dont understand is on chrome it did work without issues, it was blocked only on firefox, dont know how they can do that though but they did. Anyway, it was not anything on my side. It has been all good so far. Odd issue though.
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A mistaken, broken version of throttling i would assume


Try an alternate DNS server before you go down the VPN road
 
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Mussels said:
A mistaken, broken version of throttling i would assume
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yeah, close to 1TB of data downloaded last month but at 4k is nothing on optic fiber at 100mb, plan is unlimited so reason I never suspect of it, how do I know it was the isp or it might have been related to an issue they faced or were facing? is because after 2 weeks or so and as soon as December started, everything is back to normal again.

lexluthermiester said:
VPN.
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If the bs gets back then I will have to check vpns, right now still all right.
 
lexluthermiester said:
I'm not seeing much of a difference in those graphs. In fact they seem to show improvement in several aspects of performance.. Did I miss something?
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4k random writes halve or worse at times

Heres the big image i put up originally with %'s
5 to 20% was repeatable, so i went with that
(Crystal disk mark was consistent, AS SSD showed bigger changes but varied more between runs)
 

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Kurt63 said:
LOL ...... what I really should have said was i need to listen to you folks and read to get a better understanding of this ........ it is all new to me ...... I am done with the days of downloading something and using the software without a clue how and why it works....... :)
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Be aware that the way VeraCrypt works (master key unlocking encryption table for individual ... sectors?) it'll have a fairly significant hit on random read/write performance since your disk will have to go back and lookup the keys for the sectors each time you read/write anything
 
Mussels said:
4k random writes halve or worse at times
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What now?
NeowinDiskMark.jpg

Half or worse? Not seeing that. Your own screenshots don't show that. Whatever mechanism is at play here, it's not something the user will perceive and is likely only detected in benchmarks.

While this is something that needs a solution and/or an explanation from microsoft, it is not something that needs to be blown out of proportion.
 
lexluthermiester said:
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Half or worse? Not seeing that. Your own screenshots don't show that. Whatever mechanism is at play here, it's not something the user will perceive and is likely only detected in benchmarks.

While this is something that needs a solution and/or an explanation from microsoft, it is not something that needs to be blown out of proportion.
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in SOME cases they got that bad, in ANOTHER program - I literally said I was showing the more repeatable, lower results and not the drastic hard to produce ones - and those results were months old


Same OS install, same hardware.
Left is 11 before all the ryzen fixes, right is todays result (also 11). The Random 4k with the 32 depth queue is much higher than it was, rest is margin of error stuff - it's an active OS
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AS SSD had 2.2GB/s become 650MB/s
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This is a modern result, again: same SSD, hell i havent even booted the OS on that drive since taking the last screenshots. Yet the results are basically normal.

The problem? they havent gone back to normal for everyone.
 
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Mussels said:
in SOME cases they got that bad, in ANOTHER program - I literally said I was showing the more repeatable, lower results and not the drastic hard to produce ones
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It's likely a programmatic problem rather than a driver or stability issue.
 
lexluthermiester said:
It's likely a programmatic problem rather than a driver or stability issue.
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Very likely, which is why i focused on the (shrinking) ~20% loss the other programs reported

The same fixes for the L3 cache issue, brought my numbers back into 'close enough' territory since some results were faster while others were slower... but some people havent got that fix for whatever reason.
Might be the same issue where people didn't get the L3 fix if they swapped CPU's without an OS reinstall, on 11?

I never heard back on anyone retesting that
 
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