NVIDIA Delays RTX 3070 Ti 16GB and RTX 3080 12GB Launches

[btarunr]

NVIDIA has reportedly pushed midlife refreshes to its GeForce RTX 30-series "Ampere" graphics card family to beyond January, according to a report by Igor's Lab. The company was supposed to launch as many as three high-end graphics card SKUs in early-Q1, which include a 16 GB variant of the RTX 3070 Ti, which maxes out the GA104 silicon, a refreshed RTX 3080 12 GB variant, which keeps the CUDA core count of the original RTX 3080, but maxes out the 384-bit memory bus width of the GA102; and the RTX 3090 Ti, which maxes out both memory and CUDA cores on the GA102.

It's being reported that while the RTX 3090 Ti launch is on schedule, with announcements slated for NVIDIA's 2022 International CES presentation; the RTX 3070 Ti 16 GB and RTX 3080 12 GB could be launched only after the Chinese New Year (at least mid-February). The three SKUs, we predict, are designed to calibrate NVIDIA's lineup against a possible refresh of AMD's RDNA2 graphics architecture on the TSMC N6 (6 nm) node, which could allow the company to dial up engine clocks across the board, along with faster 18 Gbps GDDR6 memory, to better compete against the RTX 30-series. AMD is expected to announce these 6 nm GPUs in its CES presentation.



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[bonehead123]

not sure I get the logic here...

why release a lower-end card with moar vram, but a higher-end one with less vram....

perhaps I've missed something ??

 

[Wag]

not sure I get the logic here...

why release a lower-end card with moar vram, but a higher-end one with less vram....

perhaps I've missed something ??

Why release any “new” products when you can’t meet the demands on your current ones?

 

[trsttte]

Why release any “new” products when you can’t meet the demands on your current ones?

At least for that one there's a reasonable awnser, if vram is not the limiting factor for producing more cards (which it seems not to be anymore) and it was already seen that the original spec was too low it makes sense to update the product, update not add more redundant stuff to the line up of course but oh well...

 

[neatfeatguy]

not sure I get the logic here...

why release a lower-end card with moar vram, but a higher-end one with less vram....

perhaps I've missed something ??

Folks are going to say, "12GB on the 3080. I needs! NOW!"

Then again, the whole idea that the 3080 should have released with 12GB over 10GB has been part of the conversations since the card launched.

I don't really get the logic either. The 3080 doesn't have anywhere to go in terms of performance since it only sits about 5-10% behind the 3080Ti and only another 5-10% behind a 3090. You can't really close the gap anymore or you alienate the 3080Ti that already costs upwards of $700+ over a 3080.

A similar issue with the 3070Ti update.... what's the 16GB on this card going to offer over the 8GB model (aside from some more VRAM)?

 

[Prima.Vera]

Nvidia just start releasing products for the sake of releasing. This just proves that their video cards were not even close ready to be launched last year, and they were rushed with overly crappy wields just to have the market.
And I wont be surprised if nGreedia just plays with the black market, since it's mind blowing how 90% of those cards arrive there anyways. Somebody should really investigate this thoroughly in my opinion.

 

[lexluthermiester]

the RTX 3070 Ti 16 GB

This is the card I've been waiting for. EVGA, Zotac or Galax? Would you folks care to deal out the Goodness?

 

[dcGColts]

not sure I get the logic here...

why release a lower-end card with moar vram, but a higher-end one with less vram....

perhaps I've missed something ??

Unfortunately 3070ti can only be 8gb or 16gb(256bit) The benefit here is the few games that need more than 8gb of vram. Well the 3080 can be 10gb/20gb(320bit) 12gb/24gb(384bit). Atm 20gb vs 10gb is no difference in gaming while going 12gb brings higher memory bandwidth which means slight performance increase over 10gb 3080s. Really 3080 should have been 12gb from beginning and 3070's should have been designed for 10gb.

 

[trsttte]

Unfortunately 3070ti can only be 8gb or 16gb(256bit) The benefit here is the few games that need more than 8gb of vram. Well the 3080 can be 10gb/20gb(320bit) 12gb/24gb(384bit). Atm 20gb vs 10gb is no difference in gaming while going 12gb brings higher memory bandwidth which means slight performance increase over 10gb 3080s. Really 3080 should have been 12gb from beginning and 3070's should have been designed for 10gb.

What? why!?

The 3070ti - or more precisely ga104 - can be whatever nvidia whishes it to be, like for example the 12gb 192bit 3060.

I do some times wonder how they decide, lately it really seems like a coin toss looking at the line up having for example 12gb 3060, 8gb 3060ti and 10gb 3080

 

[bonehead123]

In the past, we had budget cards with 1GB vram, mid-line cards with 2GB and premium cards with 4GB. That trend continued as moar & more powerful cards were developed and games became moar & moar bloated.... then it was 4/6/8GB, then 6/8/12GB and so on etc, which was the established norm, at least until this announcement....

That's why I said what I did earlier...

 

[trsttte]

Knock-knock!
Who's there?
12gb 2060

12gb 2060 who?
fuck if I know, no reference price or stock availability

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

I got it since 600£ used to buy you a 1080 to end they're releasing these as 4080s in ten minutes exclusively to miners though, all sarcasm but dik move Nvidia, so many wierd dick move's it's truly baffling, aha the plan!.

 

[dcGColts]

What? why!?

The 3070ti - or more precisely ga104 - can be whatever nvidia whishes it to be, like for example the 12gb 192bit 3060.

I do some times wonder how they decide, lately it really seems like a coin toss looking at the line up having for example 12gb 3060, 8gb 3060ti and 10gb 3080

 

[trsttte]

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The 3060 also uses GA104 depending on the model (https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-3060-ga104.c3832) with 192bits 12gb. And although it's more common to jump in multiples of 64bit increments there were several 32 bits jumps in the past like the 5gb 160bit gtx1060, 3gb 96bit gtx1050, 11gb 352 1080ti and 11gb 320bit 2080ti.

Or as I said, nvidia can pretty much do whatever it wants and feels will be profitable ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (what's stopping them from popping up 10gb - 5x2gb 160 bit - on the 3070?)

It starts getting very murky because if you slash the bus length to fit more memory the card might perform worse (depends on the application - it's usually worse for gaming) but nvidia clearly doesn't give the slightest fuck and is all into segmenting their entire line-up with many different options that are hard to understand