AMD Navi 24 GPU Powering RX 6500 XT Built on 6nm

[btarunr]

AMD's first GPU built on the N6 (6 nm) silicon fabrication process isn't some big RX 7000 series behemoth, but the smallest chip from the Navi 2x GPU family, codenamed Navi 24. Based on the same RDNA2 graphics architecture as the rest of the RX 6000 series, the Navi 24 physically packs 1,024 stream processors across 16 compute units (8 WGPs), and on the RX 6500 XT, reportedly comes with 4 GB of memory across a 64-bit wide memory bus. The chip also packs a tiny 16 MB Infinity Cache. VideoCardz scored the first renders of the upcoming Radeon RX 6500 XT and RX 6400, which are based on the Navi 24. The RX 6500 XT features a full-height, 2-slot board design that uses a simple aluminium monoblock fan-heatsink. The RX 6400, on the other hand, is not just low-profile (half-height), but also single-slot.

Update Dec 28th: Unless we're mistaken, the SMDs near the PCIe interface in those renders seem to suggest that the GPU features a PCIe x4 interface. This should offer sufficient bandwidth for a GPU in this segment, and should help lower the pin-count of the GPU, as well as board costs.



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[Chaitanya]

Great only if they can be available for under $200.

 

[Space Lynx]

any idea what kind of fps this would give in say witcher 3 at 1080p? would it be an upgrade over my gtx 1070 by more than 20-30 fps?

 

[Chrispy_]

4GB of VRAM is what will make this unappealing to miners. Hopefully AMD can make enough of them to satisfy the now ridiculous demand for a half-decent entry-level card at sane prices.

I'm not holding my breath, initial pricing will be "market value" so likely a couple hundred bucks if it performs even remotely like a GTX980....

any idea what kind of fps this would give in say witcher 3 at 1080p? would it be an upgrade over my gtx 1070 by more than 20-30 fps?

Based on specs alone, no. It would be a sidegrade, perhaps even a significant downgrade.

At best, this is half the performance of a 6600XT, so we're looking at GTX 1060 levels for the 6500. The tiny Infinity Cache and limited bandwidth may actually make this slower than even an old GTX 1060.

 

[Ellertis]

4GB of VRAM is what will make this unappealing to miners. Hopefully AMD can make enough of them to satisfy the now ridiculous demand for a half-decent entry-level card at sane prices.

I'm not holding my breath, initial pricing will be "market value" so likely a couple hundred bucks if it performs even remotely like a GTX980....


Based on specs alone, no. It would be a sidegrade, perhaps even a significant downgrade.

At best, this is half the performance of a 6600XT, so we're looking at GTX 1060 levels for the 6500. The tiny Infinity Cache and limited bandwidth may actually make this slower than even an old GTX 1060.

There is still algos like Etc and Rvn that use less than 4gb and are profitable

 

[DeeJay1001]

There is still algos like Etc and Rvn that use less than 4gb and are profitable

ETC has really fallen off and Raven unlike ETH or some other coins relies alot more on core performance rather than bandwidth. It may be profitable on RVN but if it earns under $1 a day and has an ROI of around a year no miners will be interested.

 

[kruk]

Great only if they can be available for under $200.

Yeah, the pricing will "make or break" this GPU. The availability could be excellent since the chip is so small, so we will see how it turns out ...

any idea what kind of fps this would give in say witcher 3 at 1080p? would it be an upgrade over my gtx 1070 by more than 20-30 fps?

This GPU should give 60-70 FPS for Witcher 3 at 1080p. It's performance is probably going to be between 1660 and 1660 Super at 1080p (so lower than 1070), but at higher resolutions it will fall behind due to low VRAM and low amounts of infinity cache.

 

[seth1911]

What a pcie of shit, maybe it would be better than a few years old GT 1030

Infinite Cache a hoaks to every buyer, this is only to get a higher revenue.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

ETC has really fallen off and Raven unlike ETH or some other coins relies alot more on core performance rather than bandwidth. It may be profitable on RVN but if it earns under $1 a day and has an ROI of around a year no miners will be interested.

While I doubt that miners will be very interested in a GPU like this, their pressure keeping other prices inflated will inevitably lead to this chip being sold for $600-700, minimum.

4GB of VRAM is what will make this unappealing to miners. Hopefully AMD can make enough of them to satisfy the now ridiculous demand for a half-decent entry-level card at sane prices.

I'm not holding my breath, initial pricing will be "market value" so likely a couple hundred bucks if it performs even remotely like a GTX980....

That 4GB makes it unappealing to gamers too.

My slimline TV box uses a 4GB RX 560, and in both doom and cities skylines I am VRAM limited. This GPU could boast over twice the GPU performance, but with 4GB of VRAM on a 64 bit bus its going to be choked at every turn.

Intel's ARC A380, with a 6GB 96 bit bus, is much more promising, both in capacity and bandwidth.

 

[kruk]

While I doubt that miners will be very interested in a GPU like this, their pressure keeping other prices inflated will inevitably lead to this chip being sold for $600-700, minimum.

What? Are you serious? This won't go over 400$. You can get much faster RX 6600 for 550€ (VAT included)

 

[seth1911]

550€ 8GB in 2021

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

What? Are you serious? This won't go over 400$. You can get much faster RX 6600 for 550€ (VAT included)

As of right now, the average price for a rx 6600 is $700 in ameriland. It wouldnt surprise me to see the RX 6500 hit $500.

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People said the RX 6600 wouldnt go past $450-500, at worse, since they didnt make much sense for miners, and yet here we are.....

 

[bonehead123]

o.m.g.....

mucho...waste...of...time...resources...money....

 

[Ellertis]

As of right now, the average price for a rx 6600 is $700 in ameriland. It wouldnt surprise me to see the RX 6500 hit $500.

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People said the RX 6600 wouldnt go past $450-500, at worse, since they didnt make much sense for miners, and yet here we are.....


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So people maybe will begin to understand that the miners aren't the only ones buying gpus but also gamers themselves?

 

[mechtech]

Great only if they can be available for under $200.

This is more of an RX460 type card which was $100 at launch. However even these will probably go up more than $300+ after a bit.

"Based on the same RDNA2 graphics architecture as the rest of the RX 6000 series, the Navi 24 physically packs 1,024 stream processors across 16 compute units (8 WGPs), and on the RX 6500 XT, reportedly comes with 4 GB of memory across a 64-bit wide memory bus"

Be good for HTPC I guess. I see why AMD isn't putting 1024 shaders in it's APUs, these things would almost be pointless. I wonder if they will also go to OEMs or whole market?

IF AIB partners make a small half height 6500xt, I can see that being semi-popular due to the lack of decent performance cards in that size.

 

[seth1911]

Miners arent the problem, the main problem are consumers they buy those card cause they need it like some people they need drugs too.

I can spend 3000€ for a 3090ti but hell no ill dont do that, before that ill spend 3000€ in weed and beer.
In my opinion a 3090ti is a maximum 1000€ card, not even one cent more.

 

[TheHughMan]

Why are they trying to make more weak GPUs when stronger GPUs are what everyone wants?

 

[Ellertis]

Why are they trying to make more weak GPUs when stronger GPUs are what everyone wants?

Well, not everybody first of all, not everyone is ready to buy 500$+ cards that's for sure, so they make more affordable ones to capture all the markets, it'd be more stupid for them to ignore those price gaps

 

[mechtech]

As of right now, the average price for a rx 6600 is $700 in ameriland. It wouldnt surprise me to see the RX 6500 hit $500.

Radeon RX 6600 GPUs / Video Graphics Cards | Newegg.com

Shop Radeon RX 6600 GPUs / Video Graphics Cards on Newegg.com. Watch for amazing deals and get great pricing.

www.newegg.com

People said the RX 6600 wouldnt go past $450-500, at worse, since they didnt make much sense for miners, and yet here we are.....


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ya no doubt, hindsight is 20/20 they say. I should have bought up a bunch of 8GB RX570/580s when they were under $200 CAD could have quadrupled my money in a mere 2.5 years.

I remember about spring 2011. I bought a mobo for about $130, a radeon 6850 for $130, and amd 955 cpu for $200, etc. etc. basically built a whole new desktop PC for $800 CAD. Now can't even get a basic video card for that. And that was a decent PC for 2011!!

 

[Ellertis]

ya no doubt, hindsight is 20/20 they say. I should have bought up a bunch of 8GB RX570/580s when they were under $200 CAD could have quadrupled my money in a mere 2.5 years.

I remember about spring 2011. I bought a mobo for about $130, a radeon 6850 for $130, and amd 955 cpu for $200, etc. etc. basically built a whole new desktop PC for $800 CAD. Now can't even get a basic video card for that. And that was a decent PC for 2011!!

at least for the same money you'll now get more powerful stuff, so it's not that bad

What a pcie of shit, maybe it would be better than a few years old GT 1030

Infinite Cache a hoaks to every buyer, this is only to get a higher revenue.

That's for sure more powerful that a gt 1030, it falls more to the rx 590 territory

 

[seth1911]

Yeah for sure the 4Gig Card will be in the 590 8Gig territory,
lmao while u can play on medium with high textures on the 590, u can play on medium with low textures cause the holy 64bit and 4Gig.

Yeah great i will be use the same setting on a second hand GTX 960 4Gig for about 80€.

 

[Ellertis]

Yeah for sure the 4Gig Card will be in the 590 8Gig territory,
lmao while u can play on medium with high textures on the 590, u can play on medium with low textures cause the holy 64bit and 4Gig.

Of course I'm talking pure raster performance, duh it has less vram

 

[TheHughMan]

Well, not everybody first of all, not everyone is ready to buy 500$+ cards that's for sure, so they make more affordable ones to capture all the markets, it'd be more stupid for them to ignore those price gaps

I bought a 1650s for people who want to play the latest madden and forza games. They don't want entry level GPUs that slow down. they don't make AAA games for slow sloppy GPUs.

 

[Ellertis]

I bought a 1650s for people who want to play the latest madden and forza games. They don't want entry level GPUs that slow down. they don't make AAA games for slow sloppy GPUs.

gpus exclusively used for games, it might be used for ultra small form factor build or a simple htpc

 

[seth1911]

gpus exclusively used for games, it might be used for ultra small form factor build or a simple htpc

WTF from where did u come u think GPU are only for games