ASUS Radeon RX 6500 XT TUF Gaming

[trsttte]

The RX 6500 XT card truly has proven that the saying "There are no bad products, just bad pricing" can still somehow be wrong, even for a graphics card in 2022. Amazing.

I think it's the opposite, had this card cost a casual 70$ to 100$ bucks it could be great and finally a replacement for the terrible GT1030, GT730 and RX550 on the low end. They could even reduce the clocks a bit to keep it under the pcie 75w envelope and not require any power connectors. You'd then also actually get the same performance for less price as moore law states.

As it is, it was better to release nothing.

 

[catulitechup]

Another perl from amd when them said 4gb of vram dont be enough but now them removed

AMD removes its blog post claiming '4GB VRAM is not enough for games', right before introducing RX6500XT graphics - VideoCardz.com

AMD quietly hides its “4GB is not enough for today’s games” blog post KitGuru noticed that AMD is suddenly not considering 4GB as a problem for games. As the company surprisingly removed its 2020 blog entry covering this problem. Next-gen games will require more VRAM for textures, especially...

videocardz.com

 

[ModEl4]

Insane, if you put it in a PCI-Express 3 system, it has nearly the same performance as a $169 570 which means 13% worst price performance than a card launched nearly 5 years ago. I can't wait for the SRPs of the upcoming 3D V-cache enabled Ryzens...

 

[Sandbo]

I still remember I paid $249 for my RX 480 in 2016.
This shit is like 10% faster than that, asks for $350, in 2022.

I call that an insult.

 

[catulitechup]

Continuing with amd scamming day

another piece trash................. for 230us

and let me guess them compare scam and incomplete gpu with T600, T600 have encode capabilities and full PCIe 3.0 x16

NVIDIA T600 Specs

NVIDIA TU117, 1335 MHz, 640 Cores, 40 TMUs, 32 ROPs, 4096 MB GDDR6, 1250 MHz, 128 bit

www.techpowerup.com

 

[OC-Ghost]

Yikes! Wonder how many years until we see budget cards launching at under 150 msrp or if those days are gone.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

Yikes! Wonder how many years until we see budget cards launching at under 150 msrp or if those days are gone.

With inflation the way it is I dont see that market coming back short of a 2008 style crash. Polaris was a fluke of a design created by a company desperate for market share.

 

[defaultluser]

You know, when you are slower than my ancient GTX 1060 6GB, you know you're doing it wrong!

The 5500 XT was a faster card than this nightmare. As was the 1650 Super

I no-longer have to worry about competitive multi-core GPU scaling in drivers when this card is guaranteed to be GPU-limited on all systems - makes the 3050 OFFICIALLY UNOPPOSED at this price bracket!

So how much longer do we have to wait for the 3050 review reveal date??

 

[W1zzard]

I think those raytracing numbers in Control and Doom need a visual check. +1% sound like it was not actually enabled.

Indeed, the charts have been updated. RT can't be enabled in those two titles. Probably because 4 GB VRAM

The RX5500 XT had a 128bit bus and 4 or 8gb vram, and launched for 169 USD. They just needed to the same with an architecture refresh or even just push more 5500XT out the door (haven't looked at the numbers yet but seems like it would be better at this point)

The 5500 XT was a faster card than this

Indeed .. added RX 5500 XT numbers .. the card is faster than RX 6500 XT

Intro page says 64 ROPs...

Fixed

 

[ModEl4]

If i remember correctly, in an interview asked about supply/demand situation Lisa Su said that there will be in the next 2 years 20 new fabs (She didn't comment on the geometries, so what percentage of them will be cutting edge) so unless we have a diplomatic episode and a (staged...) supply mandate regarding Taiwan/China development or what ever they devise, we should see a relief at the end of 2023, maybe...

 

[oxrufiioxo]

What a trashfire of a gpu launch...

 

[iO]

But hey, at least they're generous and give you two bottlenecks instead of just one. /s

Wouldn't be suprised if it was supposed to be OEM only but then decided to release it to retail because even the worst crap sells nowadays.

 

[Charcharo]

R9 390 (GCN 2, Hawaii/Grenada) has now crushed Kepler, most of Maxwel, some of Pascal, cut down Polaris, Fiji, AND RDNA 2 LMAO.

 

[ShurikN]

I didn't think a card worse than vanila 1650 could be made and sold, but when you least expect it, Amd delivers.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

Indeed .. added RX 5500 XT numbers .. the card is faster than RX 6500 XT

5500xt is faster then more expensive 6500xt. Says it all really.

Makes me really wish we had gotten that full fat 5500xt with 8GB of VRAM for a budget card....

 

[ModEl4]

Indeed, the charts have been updated. RT can't be enabled in those two titles. Probably because 4 GB VRAM



Indeed .. added RX 5500 XT numbers .. the card is faster than RX 6500 XT


Fixed

Are you sure that it is the 4GB version, because in your other 5500XT reviews the 4GB version was always slower than 1650 super, maybe some of the tested games that are different influenced the results?

 

[WhoDecidedThat]

Here's what gets me: this 6500xt is often slower then a 570, though not always by much. By extension it's MAYBE 5-10% faster then a RX 560.

The RX 560 was a 75 watt card from 2017. I have one. How on earth, with that clock speed, 6nm node, and 18 Gbps GDDR6 memory, did AMD manage to engineer a card that draws 100 watts yet is barely any faster then a 5 year old 14nm card with 5 Gbps GDDR5 memory? I mean jesus there's wastes of space and then there is actual TALENT at making something utterly horrible.

It runs at 2900 MHz @ 1.2 volt at stock. This is like running Nvidia's Ampere at 2100-2200 MHz or like running a CPU at 5.5 GHz. This has been clocked way beyond what was needed. I reckon this GPU will have decent power efficiency at 1.0 volt around 2500 MHz (in laptops).

 

[Xuper]

This thing should be called RX 6400 XT , gap between 6500 and 6600 is huge

 

[Zubasa]

Ah yes the year 2022 is off to a great start, both AMD and nVidia have submitted their entries in GN's "Waste of Sand" award.
Right now it seems AMD is in the lead of said award here.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

This thing should be called RX 6400 XT , gap between 6500 and 6600 is huge

It really should have been a 896 core chip with its 64 bit bus, clocked lower to fit in 50 watt TDP, and the 6500xt should have been a 1280 core chip wit a 96 bit 6GB bus minimum.

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It runs at 2900 MHz @ 1.2 volt at stock. This is like running Nvidia's Ampere at 2100-2200 MHz or like running a CPU at 5.5 GHz. This has been clocked way beyond what was needed. I reckon this GPU will have decent power efficiency at 1.0 volt around 2500 MHz (in laptops).

Jesus. We're back to the days of clocking the snot out of hawaii to match the 970 again....

 

[Taraquin]

6500XT is a piece of garbage! If they had used atleast PCIe 4.0 x8 that would have been something but this is just bad, 1650 super performance for a higher price, worse energy consumption...

 

[defaultluser]

The last time I paid over $200 for a 32-ROP card was my trusty GTX 960!

But even NVIDIA wasn't stupid enough to castrate that old thing with such a skimpy memory bus (in-addition to tiny VRAM)

I would rather pay an extra $50 in virtual bucks to buy a real upgrade from my HTPC's 960 (the 3050) - when you take into account the fact that I'm still running PCIe 3.0 motherboard, this card will be slower than a 1060!

 

[r9]

What a piece of garbage.
Not worth $200 let alone $350, but it's okay as the PC market is place where people have more money than common sense.

 

[phanbuey]

The good thing is if there were any doubts that AMD is just like Intel and nVgreedia, then this release definitely dispelled them.

 

[WhoDecidedThat]

	Radeon 5500 XT	Radeon 6500 XT
Transistor Count	6.4 billion	5.4 billion
Memory Bandwidth	224 GB/sec	144 GB/sec
Bus Interface	PCIe 4.0 x8	PCIe 4.0 x4
Shader Processing Power	59 GPixel/sec	90 GPixel/sec
Pixel Fill Rate	162 GTexel/sec	180 GTexel/sec
Texture Fill Rate	5.2 TFLOPs	5.8 TFLOPs

They built a halfway decent chip, then f**king gimped its memory bandwidth and bus interface. Great job AMD. This could have been so much better with atleast PCIe 4.0 x8 if not additional memory and memory bandwidth.