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I miss Abit the most of the manufacturers that isn't in the game anymore. In general they made great boards with usually great overclocking capabilities.

same with DFI and their LAN PARTY boards
Same board designer. ;)
Oskar Wu went from Epox to Abit and then to DFI. When he left each one, they turned to crap and disappeared.
That's your history lesson for today. :)
 

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AT-95EX was a good budget cartridge back in the day a lot of us had one, at one time or another :) Very true there.A cool looking wooden arm?. o_O

Sorry, I completely missed your post o_O

AT-95EX really IS a great cartridge, but I'm afraid you got something wrong ... there is no "back in a day" with 95EX. It is a fairly new, modern design which upgraded their previous, highly acclaimed model AT-95E ;)

So I'm guessing that you meant AT-95E and not 95EX ... in which case you are absolutely right. To quote Audio Technica, "EX" is made out of modern materials, featuring an extended frequency response and improved transient response" has 0.3x0.7mil elliptical stylus, and is color-coded in red. It was first introduced a while ago, when AT first came out with their AT-LP5 turntable, as LP5 came with 95EX already fitted on its tonearm.

Speaking of 95E series, I also have VM95E and I have to say that I'm highly disappointed with its performance. They must have changed something within the cartridge (generator) itself, because it sounds warmer, it lost that bright (almost digital-like) sound of the previous AT-95E/95EX generation :(

If I had a nickle for every time I heard that......................
And what about "Scotty, beam me up!" :)
 
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@INSTG8R posted his Abit motherboards the other day & that prompted me to take some pictures and post my Abit collection.

First up is the BE6 slot 1 with a PIII 550. The entire system was a dumpster find, and sadly it is not the BE6-II. It also needs to be recapped. But its Win98 install is still operating.

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Next up is the Abit AI7 i865PE. I have a 3.2 northwood (along with several other northwoods) for it. One of my favorite boards. The black goo around the socket is left over insulation from a chiller run.

Abit AI7.JPG


Next is the Abit IC7 MaxII (no, not the infamous MaxIII). I have a 3.4 prescott for it which ran at 4.1GHz 24/7 under water. Like my "prescott mosfet sinks"? It has a 250MHz FSB 1:1 memory bug which is really annoying, but otherwise a great board. I had a 2nd one which I sold to a bencher - he killed it in two days. :(
Edit: I forgot to mention, both the AI7 & IC7 had the northbridge fans replaced years ago. The originals didn't last very long & there was a great discussion over which VGA fans made the best replacements. These both have a little bling with blue LEDs in the fan hub.

Abit IC7.JPG


Here's one of two Abit AA8XE motherboards. Both of these were dumpster saves (in the boxes!) I have a 3.73 P4EE and a 3.4 prescott for these boards. I wish the chipset supported the Pentium D, but it does not. Weird capacitor placement won't allow me to install either of my LGA775 water blocks either. I have a giant copper air-cooler for it though.

Abit AA8XE.JPG


I have a uGURU panel that works on the AA8XE, and I think it also works on the next mobo.

Abit uGuru.JPG


Last is the Abit AW9D-Max, which I ran an E6600 at 3.6GHz under water for so long I forgot the CPU's stock speed. lol I also have an X6800 (@4.0GHz) and an E8600 (@4.0GHz) for this board. I'm guessing my collection of Pentium Ds will work in it too, but haven't tested them out yet. Sorry, didn't pull it out of the box. This board ran X1900XTs in crossfire & also HD 3870s in xfire.

Abit AW9D.JPG


Thanks for looking at my trip down memory lane. :)
 
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Uguru panel works on all Abit boards that have the header for it.
I would kill for one.

IC7 Max III is overrated. Had 2, blew one up benching and sold the other. Asus P4C800 boards are way better.
I still have a running BE6-II. :)
 
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Uguru panel works on all Abit boards that have the header for it.
I would kill for one.

IC7 Max III is overrated. Had 2, blew one up benching and sold the other. Asus P4C800 boards are way better.
I still have a running BE6-II. :)
There was a time when I really wanted a p4c800-e deluxe and a socket 479 adapter. I still remember those mobile CPU setups just crushing various benchmarks. Looked like a lot of fun at the time and I have a sneaking suspicion that some of those benches were yours.
 
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You had to play the Abit card didn't ya...my IC7 Max 3 is in the line for a resurrection... gonna leave in an X800XT and an Audigy 2 ZS , Prescott 3.4 , and throw back in 2 Raptor WD360 raid , a Swiftech MCX4000-T TE heatsink and bigazz Sunon fan , a Swiftech NB copper chunk and bigazz Sunon fan , the TE gets a Meanwell power supply of it's own.

I posted some other Abit systems further back in the thread , Abit was the overclockers friend

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i wanna know more about this northbridge cooler if it is that in the middle pic besides the power supply ?
i think i saw something similiar 10 or more years ago.
 
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You guys must have big houses, with all the computers you have. o_OI only live in a studio flat which is a living room and bedroom in one.
 

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You guys must have big houses, with all the computers you have. o_OI only live in a studio flat which is a living room and bedroom in one.
Oh hell no, I live in a 34m2 apartment though I still don't have this full of junk. :D
 
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There was a time when I really wanted a p4c800-e deluxe and a socket 479 adapter. I still remember those mobile CPU setups just crushing various benchmarks. Looked like a lot of fun at the time and I have a sneaking suspicion that some of those benches were yours.
Indeed. :D
Still have both items.
 
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Indeed. :D
Still have both items.
That does not surprise me at all. I feel you could sell tickets to tour your parts collection. :laugh:
 
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Can anyone give me links to Vista GTX960 either 32 or 64 bit.And the ethernet driver.I tried 368.39 win8 win 7 vista 32bit.i have no idea why that does not work. o_O
 
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Here's the 64 bit 365.19.
Here's the 32 bit 365.19
 
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You guys must have big houses, with all the computers you have. o_OI only live in a studio flat which is a living room and bedroom in one.
The secret is stacking things. You can fit a lot of hardware in a small space that way!
 
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Oh hell no, I live in a 34m2 apartment though I still don't have this full of junk.
Hah, so we live on exactly the same space! :toast: I keep most of my tech in a coat/utility closet. I have three desktops in the room, but still plenty of space.

The secret is stacking things. You can fit a lot of hardware in a small space that way!
Exactly! Shelves and drawers also help. And filling larger containers with small sundry boxes.
 
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i wanna know more about this northbridge cooler if it is that in the middle pic besides the power supply ?
i think i saw something similiar 10 or more years ago.

I had several of these at one time , loved all of the Swiftech copper chunk (my words) heat sinks...I sold a couple and am sorry I did. Here are some examples , I had some of their other models like MCX370 and MCX462-V. The wife had the MCX4000 , not sure if that one is still around the bone yard but it may be.

Swiftech MCX159 "fan not included" at the time Sunon Maglev fans were where it was at

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Swiftech MCX775-V for 775 processors

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Swiftech MCX4000-T Thermo-electric (putting this on the Abit IC7 Max 3)

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Get ready y'all, I have a long one for you today. ;) This has taken most of the day, plus a few hours last night, to set up and gather... I hope you enjoy.

As many people know, LGA775 has so many CPUs that are very overclockable, inexpensive, and they largely don't draw a lot of power, unless you're looking at Netburst. But the 45nm Yorkfield CPUs especially seem to run cool, and are super easy to OC on pretty much any board. So, I purchased 6x Core 2 Duo E8500 processors to satiate my own curiosity, and get some form of binning done for the first time in my life.

Components:
- ASUS P5Q Turbo v1.02g (P45 Chipset), with modded BIOS ("5th anniversary edition Final")
- 1x2GB OCZ Reaper DDR2, rated for 1066MHz
- XFX GTX 285 (stock)
- Super Flower Leadex III Bronze Pro 650W
- Sandisk X400 SSD (128GB)
- DeepCool Gammaxx 400 w/ 2x Arctic P12 in push-pull config locked at 100% PWM, MX-2 thermal paste

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Constant settings:
- vCore: 1.550v*
- FSB Term. Voltage / CPU VTT: 1.40v
- NB Voltage: 1.40v
- SB Voltage: 1.10v
- CPU GTL Reference: 0.65x
- vDIMM: 2.20v
- PCIe SATA Voltage: 1.50v
- CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50v
- LLC: Enabled
- Spread Spectrum (CPU & PCIe): Disabled
- PCIe Frequency: 100
- FSB Strap to NB: 333MHz, DRAM frequency set to slowest available ratio
- Memory Timings: CAS 5-5-5-18
- CPU Margin Enhancement: Performance Mode
- DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
- DRAM Read Training: Disabled
- Mem. OC Charger: Enabled
- AI Clock Twister: Strong
- C1E: Disabled
- Hardware Virtualization: Disabled
*was conditionally altered for 1 CPU, which exceeded thermal capacity.

All other OC settings, not relating to FSB frequency or CPU multiplier for OC, are auto.

Miscellaneous:
- Thermal paste application: Always approx. pea-sized dot in center of IHS. Cooler mounted with pins pushed in diagonal order. All MX-2 used is from the same 65G syringe, itself being less than 1 month old.

- Ambient temperature 22-23⁰C (~71-74⁰F), as measured by cheap IR thermal gun pointed at the table the test bench is on.

- OS was kept disconnected from the internet at all times.

Thermal paste application photos, these are from SLB9K_#4, which incidentally was the hottest CPU. This is only an example, I did not photograph every CPU's mount. For SLB9K_#4, at least a bad mount can be ruled out:

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This is the order in which the CPU push-pins were depressed. This was consistent for every single CPU. Additionally, the CPU cooler was always mounted in the same direction (DeepCool logo same orientation as Yageo inductors in next picture).

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Stability measurement:
- 30 min Prime95 blend torture test, HWiNFO as only other active program
- CPU-Z validation for reference
- Max Bootable Frequency is defined as getting into Windows 10 64-bit desktop and the mouse can be moved, amount of time pre-BSOD is inconsequential.
~~~
Ordered and tested by production date.

#1: E8500, SLB9K (E0)
- Serial: Q939A475
- Made: 2009, wk 39
- Max stable frequency: 4.370GHz
- Max bootable frequency: 4.560GHz (480 FSB)
- Multiplier/FSB: 9.5x / 460MHz
- End DRAM Frequency: 920MHz
- CPU-Z Validation

#2: E8500, SLB9K (E0)
- Serial: Q945A839
- Made: 2009, wk 45
- Max stable frequency: 4.512GHz
- Max bootable frequency: 4.607GHz (485 FSB)
- Multiplier/FSB: 9.5x / 475MHz
- End DRAM Frequency: 950MHz
- CPU-Z Validation

#3: E8500, SLB9K (E0)
- Serial: Q035B863
- Made: 2010, wk 35
- Max stable frequency: 4.560GHz
- Max bootable frequency: 4.750GHz (500FSB)
- Multiplier/FSB: 9.5x / 480MHz
- End DRAM Frequency: 960MHz
- CPU-Z Validation

#4: E8500, SLB9K (E0)
- Serial: Q038C609
- Made: 2010, wk 38
- Max stable frequency: 4.560GHz
- Max bootable frequency: 4.655GHz (490FSB)
- Multiplier/FSB: 9.5x / 480MHz
- End DRAM Frequency: 960MHz
- CPU-Z Validation
*Note: Oddly drew 10-20W more than previous CPUs @ identical settings + frequency (measured by OnSemi ASP0800, = EPU2). Also peaked about 5-7⁰C higher than all previous CPUs, again same settings. 80⁰C vs 72-75⁰C previous.
First chip that was thermally limited (none before were @ 80⁰C), so to test I lowered voltage to 1.500V. Consumed similar power, and was at similar temps as others @ 1.550V. Not an issue of thermal paste application. End OC achieved @ 1.550V. Max 91W, previous 70-80W.

#5: E8500, SLB9K (E0)
- Serial: Q040D896
- Made: 2010, wk 40
- Max stable frequency: 4.607GHz
- Max bootable frequency: 4.892GHz (!) (515FSB)
- Multiplier/FSB: 9.5x / 485MHz
- End DRAM Frequency: 970MHz
- CPU-Z Validation
*Note: This was even worse than the last one on power, consuming 115W and instantly hitting 96⁰C on both cores @ 1.550V, 450FSB for initial sanity check. Dropping to 1.500V for final clocks.
Consumes as much @1.500V as E8500#4 does @ 1.550v (@ same frequency). Yet, it clocked the highest thus far for raw frequency booting. Seems to have good potential for high clocks with actual tuning, just uses stupidly more power for some reason. Final OC still hit peak 95⁰C, 115W @ OnSemi ASP0800 (ASUS EPU2).

#6: E8500, SLB9K (E0)
- Serial: Q041B237
- Made: 2010, wk 41
- Max stable frequency: 4.322GHz
- Max bootable frequency: 4.560GHz (480FSB, insta-crashed after 10s of desktop)
- Multiplier/FSB: 9.5x / 455MHz
- End DRAM Frequency: 910MHz
- CPU-Z Validation
* Note: Finally, a return to thermal normalcy... didn't instantly hit 95⁰C. Unfortunately, this chip is still not very good. Should have been a mobile CPU :(

Something interesting that I didn't realize until after testing: apparently today (February 10th, 2022) is the exact 10-year anniversary of the last date of Intel shipping out SLB9K processors out to OEMs. The longevity of this platform is insane; Ivy Bridge came out that same year... I was very surprised to learn how long they had truly been making these.

Comments on this testing: I know that 1.55v or even 1.50v vCore is quite high for these CPUs. My objective was not to measure how well the CPUs would perform once tweaked (lowest voltage for given frequency, adjusting VTT, etc.), but rather to see what differences exist between different samples when operating within otherwise identical conditions. This is only a sample size of 6, and I purchased them all from the same eBay seller, so I don't know the history of any of these chips either. Therefore I don't feel comfortable extrapolating this data to Yorkfield overall, nor even to SLB9K CPUs as a whole. Also, I didn't track temperatures formally throughout testing; I merely kept an eye on them to see if there were notable differences. Again, max frequency within identical parameters - CPU excepted - was the goal, not tracking power or thermal differences, so I can't really comment on the differences between my samples scientifically.

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This is what happens when you complete buildzoid's pentagRAM... I'm surprised OCZ ever went out of business, their modules clearly bend time and space. :p

I may do this again in the future with 6x Xeon X5675's...
 
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Thanks for the link, I'll grab a modded bios for my P5Q Pro and I'll have an OC session as well in the future! :toast:
 
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I dont' have much space either, but somehow its working out. I hang my boards up on the wall.

Just a few days ago I decided to tidy up my RAM collection for DDR2. Got one of these neat boxes:
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Factory seals, Micron label on the side. These things come from the sacred halls. From Micron it was given, Micron it shall contain! Left row -> D9GMH and Tracers. Right row -> D9GKX
I thought 50 slots would be plenty... Guess I'll grab another. Biggest downside -> Can't store sticks with large heatsinks and put the lid on.

While I was browsing, this thing popped up. Rampage III Extreme, missing NB heatsink and a damaged component near the audio section. I only plan to OC on it and it was tested working so I grabbed it. Did not really plan to get back into X58 but for 115€ I kinda had to. Came with a 920 and some RAM.

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Great, now I got even more things to do. I want to set up another X-OC session or two on 775, still have to bin a lot of CPUs, need to bin a LOT of RAM.

In the meantime I also modded my P5Q-E with voltage readpoints like I did on the MSI and I practiced my soldering skills. Took a few caps from random scrap pcbs. There are some really tiny SMDs on DDR2 sticks. 0,15µF. Being able to measure capacitance with my new DMM is nice. The P5Q-E has unpopulated solder pads on the back of the NB that are connected, so I added a few caps out of the socket from a dead 775 board. Just to see if I can manage that without doing any harm to the chip on the other side. So far it was a success, tho I doubt that the P45 NB has any significant ripple that could be improved on. The whole C2D platform seems pretty tame in terms of power requirement.
 
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I dont' have much space either, but somehow its working out. I hang my boards up on the wall.

Just a few days ago I decided to tidy up my RAM collection for DDR2. Got one of these neat boxes:
View attachment 236164

Factory seals, Micron label on the side. These things come from the sacred halls. From Micron it was given, Micron it shall contain! Left row -> D9GMH and Tracers. Right row -> D9GKX
I thought 50 slots would be plenty... Guess I'll grab another. Biggest downside -> Can't store sticks with large heatsinks and put the lid on.

While I was browsing, this thing popped up. Rampage III Extreme, missing NB heatsink and a damaged component near the audio section. I only plan to OC on it and it was tested working so I grabbed it. Did not really plan to get back into X58 but for 115€ I kinda had to. Came with a 920 and some RAM.

View attachment 236165

Great, now I got even more things to do. I want to set up another X-OC session or two on 775, still have to bin a lot of CPUs, need to bin a LOT of RAM.

In the meantime I also modded my P5Q-E with voltage readpoints like I did on the MSI and I practiced my soldering skills. Took a few caps from random scrap pcbs. There are some really tiny SMDs on DDR2 sticks. 0,15µF. Being able to measure capacitance with my new DMM is nice. The P5Q-E has unpopulated solder pads on the back of the NB that are connected, so I added a few caps out of the socket from a dead 775 board. Just to see if I can manage that without doing any harm to the chip on the other side. So far it was a success, tho I doubt that the P45 NB has any significant ripple that could be improved on. The whole C2D platform seems pretty tame in terms of power requirement.
I don't think anyone really ever stays away from X58 for long ;)
And what a beautiful board, even sans part of the NB heatsink... Total steal for benching. Which component has been damaged?

I know I linked it in my previous post, but this modded BIOS may help you on your ventures. I didn't make it myself and the usual disclaimers come into play, but may be worth a shot if you're up for it. The forum post doesn't immediately state it, but the P5Q-E is in that BIOS package.
 
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