What the *** is going on with 12th gen mobos?

[Wirko]

But yeah do not count on any price drops.

150-200 euro it is here to stay, inflation.

Prices have come down quite a bit since Z690 launch, and the selection of boards under 200-210 € is decent. It wasn't three months ago. I expect this trend to continue, even if very slowly.

But Im planning on waiting for Meteor lake MBD or even the 17770K in 2025 with 64 E cores.

1700 is probably a short lived piece of ewaste and locked to 12-13 gen only just like Z77 +2700/3770k.

What makes you think that the boards for Meteor Lake or the 17770K will be much different?

That e-waste argument is dubious, though. You'll probably reuse, resell or donate old CPUs and motherboards, no matter if you upgrade both at once or separately. Someone will need a mobo for your old CPU, or a CPU for your old mobo, so at least in the long term, the number of mobos and CPUs manufactured for each socket type will be very close.

 

[Sithaer]

Welp I just put my order on a ASUS PRIME B660-PLUS D4 for 176 $ with our 27% VAT included.
That was the cheapest non trashy 660 mobo I could get at the moment.

I'm not planning to ever put any K CPU in it or anyhing crazy so it should be fine. 'Locked i5-i7 at most in the future'

When I bought my current B350 F STRIX in 2018 may I paid about 180$ for it at the time 'inflation and whatnot happens+ my country's BS' so its about what I pay for my mobos at most.

 

[ir_cow]

Welp I just put my order on a ASUS PRIME B660-PLUS D4 for 176 $ with our 27% VAT included.
That was the cheapest non trashy 660 mobo I could get at the moment.

I'm not planning to ever put any K CPU in it or anyhing crazy so it should be fine. 'Locked i5-i7 at most in the future'

"Stable power is essential to extract every last bit of performance out of 12th Generation Intel processors. Prime B660-PLUS D4 is geared to cater to the demands of these high-core-count CPUs. " - ASUS. This makes me laugh. It looks to be a 6+1+1 setup with high and lows split. I assume it 55A. At maximum power it would be about 380 Watts output. I'm not sure how well it would fair with 100% load before the safety kicks in. I personally wouldn't use that for over 200 watts. Make sure to lock that P1=P2 at 150!

 

[Sithaer]

"Stable power is essential to extract every last bit of performance out of 12th Generation Intel processors. Prime B660-PLUS D4 is geared to cater to the demands of these high-core-count CPUs. " - ASUS. This makes me laugh. It looks to be a 6+1+1 setup with high and lows split. I assume it 55A. At maximum power it would be about 380 Watts output. I'm not sure how well it would fair with 100% load before the safety kicks in. I personally wouldn't use that for over 200 watts. Make sure to lock that P1=P2 at 150!

No worries a i 3 12100F is going into that mobo so its more than enough and I mainly cared about the connections/ports.
At most I'm gonna put a 12400F or whatever else similar compatible in the next 4-5 years, I'm not a power user but I need the IPC gain for the games I play. 'I do exactly zero work load on my system'
I've been using this B350 and 1600x since 2018 at stock and it was fine but the IPC is starting to show its limits so its about time I upgrade that.

Power limits wont be touched either, I run all my stuff at stock and usually I undervolt my GPU for less power usage/temps and more stable boost clock. 'Coming from GCN AMD this feels normal to me'

 

[Cutechri]

Dunno, my 5900X will do me well until Nova Lake. Genuinely hope prices are sane by then.

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

Dunno, my 5900X will do me well until Nova Lake. Genuinely hope prices are sane by then.

Same here, as I got my first B550 motherboard and Vermeer very recently. Looks like I should be happy with the Ryzen 5 5600X, even with less cores than the Ryzen 7 3700X, which I still have. That B450 build is going into another case.

 

[MarsM4N]

- Lots, lots of protection ICs.

For the same cost, you get this sh** mobo, so naked and pathetic that they had to paint It so it looked better:

That's what I also noticed & wondered, is it based on advanced tech or cost cuts?

Back then mainboards where plastered with little tiny electronic parts, now the PCB is nearly naked.

 

[Palladium]

That's what I also noticed & wondered, is it based on advanced tech or cost cuts?

Back then mainboards where plastered with little tiny electronic parts, now the PCB is nearly naked.

The #1 rule in electronic engineering is to shove as many discrete components into ICs as possible.
And the #2 rule is shove as many ICs into fewer ICs as possible.

 

[freeagent]

Looks like I should be happy with the Ryzen 5 5600X

It is an awesome little CPU! I roll with my 5900X as a daily but.. I rip it out at least once a month or two and slap my 5600X back in and let er rip.. its so easy to cool, I hardly hear my fans.. its nice.. but in the end my 59er boosts 300MHz higher and handles 4 sticks better.. still not going to sell it. Just need another board and ram for it. But when I am running it, I don't really miss the 59er, but I cant just let it sit on the shelf like I do with the 56er

my 5900X will do me well until Nova Lake.

I am thinking the same thing.. pretty much when DDR5 is the norm..

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Why are they going so big on the small cores? some people seem to whine about them in alder lake. 8+32 is a large amount of small cores.